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    669: Seeing Greene: Is BRRRR Investing About to Get Even Better?

    enOctober 02, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • Surround yourself with committed individuals for personal growth and business successCommitting to common goals with dedicated individuals fosters personal growth and builds business success. Meaningful connections and relationships from events or conferences can significantly impact business success. Explore various investment strategies like renting properties or investing passively in real estate funds to build wealth.

      Surrounding yourself with committed individuals towards common goals, whether it's real estate or other aspects of life, can help silence the need for external validation and foster personal growth. Additionally, making meaningful connections and fostering relationships at events or conferences can significantly impact your business success. For real estate investors, opportunities like renting properties with no or low money down or investing passively in real estate funds can help build wealth without the usual headaches. Overall, the key is to stay committed, surround yourself with the right people, and explore various investment strategies to maximize your potential for success.

    • Finding a Reliable Contractor for a BRRRR StrategyAsk for referrals, work with contractors with in-house teams, request longer escrow periods, and consider renting out a portion of the property as a short-term rental during renovations.

      In today's market, finding a reliable contractor for a BRRRR strategy can be easier due to decreased demand in some areas. To increase your chances of finding a good contractor, ask for referrals from various sources and consider working with contractors who have in-house teams. Additionally, request a longer escrow period to minimize holding costs if a contractor cannot start immediately after closing. Lastly, consider renting out a portion of the property as a short-term rental while renovating the other parts to generate income during the renovation process.

    • Considering additional costs and potential delays in property renovationsWhen investing in property, be prepared for unexpected expenses and delays during renovations. Negotiate with sellers or consider syndications as an alternative investment option.

      When dealing with property renovations, it's important to consider the additional costs and potential delays that come with them. If you're unable to rent out the property during this time, you may want to negotiate with the seller to cover some of these expenses. Syndications, while they can be beneficial, may not be as advantageous as investing in your own properties. By buying and managing your own properties, you'll gain valuable experience and knowledge that can lead to long-term wealth. For beginners, focusing on multifamily rentals in good areas is a solid starting point. Syndications can be considered as an alternative investment option when you're unable to secure a loan, have limited time, or when there are few good deals available. However, it's crucial to thoroughly vet the syndicator and the investment opportunity beforehand.

    • Meeting IRS guidelines to qualify as a real estate professionalTo qualify as a real estate professional and access tax benefits, invest in real estate with a focus on performing over-50% of personal services and spending at least 750 hours per year, but consult a tax expert for clarification on specific requirements.

      Real estate investing, especially house hacking and small multifamily properties, can be a great way to build wealth with relatively low upfront costs. However, there are requirements, such as being an accredited investor and meeting IRS guidelines to qualify as a real estate professional for tax benefits. To become a real estate professional, one must perform more than 50% of their personal services in real estate businesses and spend at least 750 hours per year in real estate services. The definition of "real estate services" and what constitutes "working hours" can be ambiguous and may depend on case law. It's essential to consult with a tax professional or CPA for specific advice on your situation. Overall, the key is to ask questions, understand the rules, and take action towards your real estate investing goals.

    • Transitioning to full-time real estate with tax benefitsWith dedication, hard work, and the right guidance, one can transition from a W2 job to a full-time real estate professional and enjoy the tax benefits that come with it.

      To qualify as a full-time real estate professional and save on taxes, one needs to ensure that the majority of their time and efforts are devoted to real estate-related activities. This can include starting a side business or a few businesses in the real estate industry, such as a title company or a real estate sales team. However, it is crucial to consult with a Certified Public Accountant (CPA) to understand the specific case law and guidelines that apply to one's unique situation. The speaker, who is an entrepreneur in the real estate industry, emphasizes the importance of being passionate about real estate and turning that passion into a full-time career. The speaker also shares their personal experience of studying case law extensively while working in law enforcement and applying it to their current situation in real estate. Overall, the key takeaway is that with dedication, hard work, and the right guidance, one can transition from a W2 job to a full-time real estate professional and enjoy the tax benefits that come with it.

    • Exploring Alternative Real Estate RolesConsider various roles within real estate industry to diversify income streams while maintaining a steady W2 job

      There are various ways to get involved in real estate beyond being a full-time investor or being stuck in a W2 job you dislike. The speaker, David, shared his personal experience of having multiple revenue streams in the real estate industry while still maintaining a steady income from a W2 job. He encouraged listeners who aren't happy with their current job but not ready to go all-in as a full-time investor to explore options within the industry, such as becoming an escrow officer, title officer, loan officer, real estate agent, or contractor, among others. These roles offer opportunities to be closer to real estate while not being completely dependent on rental income. The speaker also appreciated the supportive comments from listeners and encouraged them to leave comments and questions on YouTube.

    • Inspired by Harrison Ford's character in a movie, some BiggerPockets members pursue being a detective and realtor on the sideConsider commercial financing or working with private investors for multifamily properties with low taxable income, or hold off on refinancing until income improves.

      Harrison Ford's character in a movie where he played a detective and realtor on the side resonated with many BiggerPockets members, inspiring them to follow a similar path. Another key takeaway is the idea of reviewing and critiquing other people's real estate advice, which could lead to engaging discussions and debates in the community. Regarding the question from Hugh Boy, if you own a multifamily property with more than 5 units and cannot refinance it with a residential lender due to low taxable income, you may consider commercial financing options or working with private investors. Commercial lenders typically require higher income or proof of cash flow to qualify for loans, but they may be more flexible for larger multifamily properties. Another option could be to hold off on refinancing until your income or cash flow improves. Additionally, it's important to note that every situation is unique, and the best financing option depends on various factors, such as the property's location, condition, and market trends. It's always a good idea to consult with a financial advisor or real estate professional to explore all your options and make an informed decision.

    • Consult with lender or agent before buying property for financingClear communication and preparation with lender can help avoid potential issues, ensure loan requirements, and uncover alternative financing options.

      Communication and preparation are key when it comes to real estate financing. If you're considering buying a property and plan to seek financing later, it's important to consult with your lender or real estate agent before closing the deal. This can help you avoid potential issues and ensure that you meet the necessary requirements for the loan. For instance, if you bought a commercial property intending to use a residential DSCR loan, but the property doesn't qualify, it may be worth considering a commercial loan instead. Commercial loans often have different requirements and terms, so it's essential to understand these differences before making a decision. Additionally, being transparent with your lender about your plans and the property's details can help you make informed choices and potentially uncover alternative financing options. Overall, clear communication and preparation can save time, money, and stress in the long run.

    • Former law enforcement officer turns real estate syndicatorFormer law enforcement officers can invest in real estate through syndication for financial freedom. Utilize resources like BiggerPockets and 'Seeing Green' podcast for learning and networking.

      Building a team of law enforcement officers as private money lenders to invest in real estate and achieve financial freedom is a viable path, as demonstrated by Brian Burke, a former law enforcement officer turned successful syndicator. For those interested, Brian runs Praxis Capital and is highly respected in the real estate investing community. While it's always great to seek advice from mentors, remember that platforms like BiggerPockets serve as an invaluable resource for learning and networking. Additionally, the podcast "Seeing Green" offers a unique opportunity to learn from industry experts through in-depth conversations. So, while one-on-one mentorship can be beneficial, make the most of the resources available to you first. And, just a friendly reminder, if you offer to buy someone a drink as a gesture of goodwill, respect their decision if they decline due to personal reasons.

    • Modern Apprenticeship: Building Genuine ConnectionsInstead of working for a mentor, build a genuine connection by attending events, making friends with their associates, and providing helpful resources.

      In today's world, the apprenticeship model for learning new skills, such as martial arts or real estate investing, has evolved. Instead of working for the person teaching you in exchange for knowledge, many people now pay for courses or mentorship upfront. Building relationships and adding value to the mentor's life is a more effective approach to securing a mentor. This can be done by attending events, making friends with their associates, or providing helpful resources. The ultimate goal is to create a genuine connection, as demonstrated by Alex Hormozi's investment in building a friendship with Grant Cardone.

    • Forming genuine relationships for valuable mentorship opportunitiesReach out to like-minded individuals or groups, build relationships, and consider using platforms like Redfin, Quantum Fiber Internet, and NREIG for personal and professional growth.

      Mentorship and relationships are key to personal and professional growth. While coaching and apprenticeships can be effective, developing genuine relationships through shared experiences and bonding can lead to valuable mentorship opportunities. This was the path taken by the speaker in joining a group and forming connections with influential figures in their industry. To get started, consider reaching out to like-minded individuals or groups, and focus on building relationships rather than asking for direct instruction. Additionally, the speaker highlighted the importance of Redfin for those in the real estate market, offering personalized recommendations and low fees, while Quantum Fiber Internet was recommended for multifamily property owners to enhance their residents' living experience. Lastly, NREIG was suggested as a reliable option for real estate investors seeking insurance.

    • Focus on internal validationInstead of relying solely on external validation, focus on personal progress and accomplishments for a healthier approach to validation.

      It's important to find ways to validate yourself instead of relying solely on external validation. The need for validation is a natural human trait, but it can become unhealthy when it takes control of your process. Instead, focus on the progress you've made, no matter how small, and take pride in your accomplishments. Remember that validation from others is not a guarantee of success and should not be the sole measure of your worth. Additionally, there are resources available, like NREIG's insurance services for real estate investors, that can help simplify the process and provide valuable information to help you on your journey. Lastly, understanding the origins and meanings of phrases like "rack your brain" can add depth to your knowledge and make for interesting conversations.

    • The power and limitations of seeking validation from othersSurround yourself with supportive people, focus on meeting others' needs, and trust that doing the right thing will lead to positive outcomes.

      The need for validation from others can be a powerful force in our lives, but it can also become a limiting factor if we're not careful. This need is tied to our desire to stay alive and can be difficult to escape. To mitigate this, it's essential to surround ourselves with people who are committed to their goals and can provide constructive feedback. Additionally, focusing on meeting other people's needs and validating them can help us build meaningful relationships and create a positive cycle of reciprocity. It's important to remember that if we do the right thing and meet others' needs, our needs will be met in return. This philosophy, which can be seen as a form of faith, allows us to trust that things will work out for us if we take the right actions. While this advice may not be the tactical solution you were looking for, it can have a significant impact on your mindset and help you break free from the limiting belief that your worth is tied to others' opinions.

    • Evaluate Property and Manager's Context Before ChangingAssess property's location, competition, and market conditions before blaming a property manager for underperformance. Consider if you're providing adequate resources for the manager to succeed.

      Before deciding to switch property management companies, it's essential to evaluate if the property itself is capable of improvement and if the property manager is given adequate resources to succeed. The property manager's performance should be assessed in the context of the property's location, competition, and market conditions. If the property is in a challenging area or lacks desirable features, it might not be the manager's fault that rents aren't increasing. Additionally, consider if you, as the property owner, are providing the manager with the necessary tools and support to excel. If the property manager is underperforming despite your best efforts, it may be time to explore other options. Overall, it's crucial to consider the property's potential and the manager's capabilities before making a change.

    • Communication and taking responsibility are key to property sales and rentalsBe truthful about property issues and take action to improve chances of selling or renting

      Effective communication and taking responsibility for improvements are crucial for selling or renting out properties successfully. In the real estate context discussed, if a property isn't selling or renting, it might not be the property's fault but the seller or landlord's. Being truthful about the issues and willing to put in the necessary work to address them is essential. A property management company that provides clear solutions and a plan of action is a better choice than one that lacks direction. By acknowledging the issues and taking steps to improve, property owners can increase their chances of selling or renting their properties.

    • Be aware of investment risks and consult with expertsAlways be aware of potential investment risks and consult with experts before making decisions to minimize potential damages.

      Investing comes with risks and it's essential to make informed decisions using your best judgment and consulting with qualified advisers. You should only invest money that you can afford to lose. BiggerPockets LLC disclaims all liability for any damages arising from the use of information presented in this podcast. In essence, it's crucial to be aware of the risks involved and take the necessary precautions before making any investment decisions. Remember, the potential rewards may be great, but so are the potential risks. Always do your due diligence and consult with experts before putting your hard-earned money on the line.

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