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    8/15/23 GA Trump Indictment Special: Krystal and Saagar REACT

    enAugust 15, 2023

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    • New Podcasts for Bedtime and Faster InternetDiscover new podcasts for bedtime stories and calming meditations for kids, as well as news and humor for adults. Plus, consider upgrading to faster internet with Ziggly Fiber.

      There are numerous podcasts available on popular platforms like Iheartradio and Apple Podcasts that can help make bedtime a more enjoyable experience for parents and kids. The Koala Moon podcast offers original kids' bedtime stories and calming sleep meditations, while The Daily Show, Ears Edition keeps adults informed with late-night humor and current news. Additionally, Ziggly Fiber promises 25 times faster upload speeds for 25% less than cable internet. Meanwhile, Breaking Points is thinking about expanding their coverage for the 2024 election and encourages viewer support. In more significant news, a Fulton County grand jury indicted 19 individuals, including Donald Trump, on felony charges related to attempting to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. The indictment includes 41 felony counts and is 97 pages long. Everyone charged is presumed innocent.

    • Georgia election interference investigation could result in long-term consequences for TrumpIf found guilty in Georgia's election interference investigation, Trump could face minimum 5-year sentence under RICO law, which cannot be pardoned by him or a governor.

      The ongoing investigation into alleged election interference in Georgia against former President Donald Trump carries significant consequences if he is found guilty. The charges, which include violations of the state's RICO Act and various other crimes, are state charges, meaning they cannot be pardoned by Trump himself if he is re-elected or by a governor. Additionally, the RICO law in Georgia has a minimum five-year sentence for those convicted and has yet to face constitutional challenges. The law, which was written by Republicans in the 1980s, is designed to prosecute criminal enterprises, including those not requiring direct communication between individuals involved. This investigation poses a significant challenge for Trump, with potential long-term consequences if found guilty.

    • Georgia Indictment Stronger Than Jack Smith's Due to Unique Role and Specific ActsThe Georgia indictment against Trump and associates for election interference is more substantial than Jack Smith's due to Georgia's role in federal elections and specific acts like Trump's call to election officials, alternate electors' votes, false testimony, and data copying.

      The Georgia indictment against Donald Trump and associates for attempting to interfere in the 2020 elections is stronger than the Jack Smith indictment due to Georgia's unique role in administering federal elections and the specific acts outlined, including Trump's phone call to election officials, alternate electors' votes, false testimony, and data copying. The political implications are significant, with Trump and associates like Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and Jenna Ellis facing charges, and the lengthy indictment generating extensive media coverage. The charges against Ellis, who now supports DeSantis, adds an unexpected twist. The grand jury process and the removal and re-posting of the indictment added to the confusion and intrigue surrounding the case.

    • Georgia election interference case: Potential lengthy prison sentences under RICO lawThe indictment against Trump and others in the Georgia election interference case alleges a wide-ranging conspiracy and charges under RICO law, which could result in lengthy prison sentences if convicted.

      The indictment against Donald Trump and others in the Georgia election interference case is significant due to the potential for lengthy prison sentences under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) law if they are convicted. The indictment alleges a wide-ranging conspiracy involving multiple individuals, including Trump, and charges related to false statements, computer intrusion, and conspiracy to commit election fraud. The indictment details numerous actions taken by those involved, and prosecutors can use these actions to paint a larger picture of the alleged scheme. Some of those charged, like Sidney Powell, face computer charges that could be more straightforward to prove at the state level. The list of those charged is extensive, including Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and several others. The indictment also names 30 unindicted co-conspirators. The potential consequences for those charged under RICO are much more severe than for typical criminal charges, making this a serious development for those involved.

    • Targeting and defaming election workersTrump team's efforts to overturn election results involved false accusations against innocent election workers, causing harm and threats to their lives.

      The attempts by the Trump team to overturn the election results were not only widespread and organized but also involved targeting and defaming ordinary election workers. The most galling part was the treatment of two election workers, a mother and daughter, by Rudy Giuliani and others, who falsely accused them of passing USBs back and forth like drug dealers. These allegations led to scrutiny and threats against their lives, even though they were later proven to be lies. Despite losing every lawsuit and audit related to the election, the Trump team continues to spread false claims of widespread fraud based on anomalous events. These claims, which have been debunked in courts, have caused unnecessary harm to innocent people. It's important to remember that elections involve thousands of jurisdictions and anomalous events are inevitable. Instead of focusing on these events, we should demand evidence to back up any claims of widespread fraud.

    • Trump's Legal Battles in Georgia: A Continuing SagaDespite ongoing efforts to challenge election results, Democrats have won in Georgia. Trump's team argues politically motivated indictments violate constitutional rights, but strong legal cases are needed to decide outcome.

      The ongoing legal battles facing former President Donald Trump, particularly in Georgia, are not a new phenomenon. Despite efforts to challenge election results, Democrats have won elections in the state. Trump's team argues that the indictments against him are politically motivated and a violation of his constitutional rights. They also point out that these charges could have been brought years ago. The upcoming trial, which is likely to be a media spectacle, will require a strong legal case from the prosecution. Senator Lindsey Graham and others argue that these prosecutions set a dangerous precedent and should be decided at the ballot box. The political arguments may resonate with many Americans, but the legal case will be crucial in determining the outcome.

    • Trump and 18 associates charged with election crimes in GeorgiaFirst time a former US president charged with election crimes in Georgia for pressuring officials to decertify results and using false claims of voter fraud

      Former President Donald Trump and 18 of his associates are facing criminal charges in Georgia related to their attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. The indictment, which includes charges of conspiracy, solicitation of election fraud, and false statements, alleges that Trump and his team pressured Georgia officials to decertify the election and used various lawyers to push false claims of voter fraud. The defendants may argue defenses such as free speech protections under both the US and Georgia constitutions, as well as the intent element of the charges, which would require the prosecution to prove that the defendants knew their statements were false. This case is significant as it's the first time a former US president has been charged with election crimes.

    • Prosecutors vs. Trump: Free Speech vs. Criminal ConspiracyProsecutors will focus on proving Trump and associates knew false info was used to influence election officials, potentially leading to criminal conspiracy charges.

      While those involved in the investigation into former President Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results may have engaged in political speech, they crossed a line when they sought or commanded others to engage in criminal acts based on false information. The distinction between free speech and criminal conspiracy lies in the intent to commit illegal acts. The indictment against Trump and his associates will focus on proving beyond reasonable doubt that they knew the information they were using was false when they attempted to influence election officials. The defense may try to poke holes in the indictment, and some peripheral figures like Jenna Ellis may make plea deals to cooperate and bring down bigger targets such as Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Donald Trump himself.

    • Donald Trump trial in Georgia: Complex legal process with multiple defendantsThe upcoming Georgia trial for alleged election interference involves multiple defendants under one table, challenging intent proof for prosecution, potential severance and plea deals, and potential involvement of Donald Trump and 7-8 others.

      The upcoming trial involving Donald Trump and others for alleged election interference in Georgia will be a complex legal process with multiple defendants sharing one defense table under the RICO statute. Proving intent will be a challenging task for the prosecution, as it requires providing evidence to support the defendant's state of mind. The trial is expected to be massive, with all defendants and their lawyers under one table, and the government on the other side. Individuals may try to sever themselves, and some may make plea deals due to financial constraints. Each defendant is charged under the RICO statute with additional charges depending on their involvement. The trial could potentially involve Donald Trump and 7 or 8 other individuals.

    • RICO targets criminal organizations and conspiraciesRICO unites various criminal charges into one case, initially used against organized crime families, now used against individuals involved in larger criminal schemes.

      RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) acts as a comprehensive conspiracy statute. It requires the proof of an individual being part of a criminal organization and conspiracy, along with separate charges under state law. If the underlying charges fail, the RICO charge would also collapse. However, the main purpose of using RICO is to bring together various components of a larger criminal scheme into one case. This statute was initially created to target organized crime families in the 70s and 80s. In the current context, Donald Trump faces challenges due to his association with individuals involved in the criminal behavior he engaged in. The Koala Moon podcast, on the other hand, offers a solution for bedtime struggles by providing original kids' stories and cozy sleep meditations, creating a life-changing bedtime routine. Lastly, California avocados are a testament to idyllic conditions and dedicated farmers' commitment to responsible, sustainable growing, making them the best avocados available.

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