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    #97 - Peter Hotez, M.D., Ph.D.: COVID-19: transmissibility, vaccines, risk reduction, and treatment

    enMarch 14, 2020

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    • Understanding COVID-19: Insights from a Vaccine ScientistRenowned vaccine scientist Dr. Peter Hotez discusses the etiology of SARS-CoV-2, differences between virus and disease, transmission, knowns and unknowns, potential treatments, and vaccine prospects. Promising approaches include convalescent serum.

      Dr. Peter Hotez, a renowned vaccine scientist and pediatrician, provides valuable insights into the current coronavirus outbreak. During this podcast episode, Hotez discusses the etiology of the virus, the difference between the virus (SARS-CoV-2) and the disease state it causes (COVID-19), and how it's spread. He also shares what we know and don't know about the virus, potential treatment options, and the likelihood of a vaccine in the near term. Another promising approach mentioned is convalescent serum. The podcast is shorter than usual due to the rapidly changing information, and future podcasts will be more frequent. Show notes for this and subsequent coronavirus-related podcasts will be available to all listeners, not just subscribers.

    • COVID-19 is caused by SARS-CoV-2, a highly transmissible and deadly coronavirus.COVID-19, caused by SARS-CoV-2, is a serious global health threat due to its high transmissibility and mortality rates.

      COVID-19 and SARS-CoV-2 are related terms, with COVID-19 being the name of the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The SARS coronaviruses, including SARS-1 and SARS-2, have emerged as major global health threats in the 21st century, causing pandemics approximately every decade. SARS-2, the virus responsible for the current pandemic, is highly transmissible and causes serious mortality, making it a significant threat despite not being as deadly or transmissible as some previous coronaviruses. The high fatality and transmissibility rates combine to make SARS-2 a unique and serious public health concern. The expert interviewed expressed concern six days prior to the conversation, acknowledging the seriousness of SARS-2 despite its differences from previous coronaviruses.

    • Impact of COVID-19 on Healthcare WorkersCOVID-19 disproportionately affects healthcare workers, causing a significant loss of personnel and potentially destabilizing the healthcare system. Quick intervention is crucial to minimize the impact on healthcare personnel and the healthcare system as a whole.

      The COVID-19 virus is highly transmissible and poses a serious risk to specific populations, including the elderly, individuals with underlying health conditions, and healthcare workers. The virus has been particularly harmful to healthcare workers, who are getting infected at higher rates than expected and experiencing more severe symptoms. This is causing a significant loss of healthcare personnel, which can further destabilize the healthcare system. The length of time a country allows the virus to circulate without intervention also plays a crucial role in determining the severity of the outbreak. The US, which was slow to implement diagnostic testing and allowed the virus to spread for an extended period, is now facing a potential shortage of healthcare workers and first responders. The consequences of this shortage could be dire, as hospitals may not have enough staff to care for the influx of patients.

    • Focusing on mitigating impact of COVID-19 surgeDespite missed opportunity for widespread testing, efforts to mitigate COVID-19 surge through social distancing and convalescent serum use are ongoing. Collaboration between blood banks, community hospitals, and regulatory agencies crucial.

      The lack of widespread testing for COVID-19 in the past few weeks has put us in a precarious position, with the potential for a large surge in cases and hospitalizations in the coming weeks. The opportunity to prevent this virus from spreading widely within the population has likely passed, but there is still a chance to mitigate the impact by focusing on social distancing and implementing interventions like the use of convalescent serum. This involves collecting antibody-rich serum from recovered patients and using it to treat or prevent infection in others. However, implementing this intervention requires the help of blood banks, community hospitals, and guidance from regulatory agencies. It's important to focus on finding solutions now rather than assigning blame for the current situation.

    • Exploring Interim Solutions: Convalescent Serum and Other TreatmentsWhile vaccines are the ultimate goal, interim solutions like convalescent serum and Remdesivir offer potential to save lives and could be scaled up. Safety standards and challenges in creating an effective vaccine mean it may take significant time.

      The development and distribution of a coronavirus vaccine could take a significant amount of time due to the high safety standards required and potential challenges with creating an effective vaccine. Meanwhile, convalescent serum and other potential treatments, such as Remdesivir, could provide interim solutions and potentially help save lives on a larger scale. The scalability of convalescent serum is still uncertain, but its relatively low-technology requirements make it a promising area to explore further. While vaccines are the ultimate goal, the urgent need for action calls for a focus on treatments and preventative measures in the short term.

    • History of coronavirus vaccine developmentDeveloping a coronavirus vaccine is complex and lengthy, with past efforts hindered by animal immune responses and lack of interest due to other diseases. Recent progress with SARS-2 renewed efforts, but securing funding remains a challenge.

      The development of vaccines, especially for emerging diseases, can be a complex and lengthy process. The example given is the history of attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine, which was hindered by immune enhancement in animals and lack of interest due to the emergence of other diseases. However, recent developments with the SARS-2 coronavirus have renewed efforts to repurpose an existing vaccine and move it into clinical trials. Despite the challenges and successes, securing funding for vaccine development and clinical trials remains a significant hurdle. The speaker, who has dedicated his career to creating vaccines for neglected diseases, invites interested parties to contact him through Baylor College of Medicine or Texas Children's Hospital to discuss potential collaboration and funding opportunities.

    • ACE2 receptor found in various cells explains diverse COVID-19 symptomsThe ACE2 receptor, used by COVID-19 to enter cells, is not only present in the lungs but also in the heart, intestines, and endothelial cells, causing various symptoms like heart injury and intestinal pathology. Practice good hygiene and maintain a clean environment to prevent transmission through surfaces.

      The ACE2 receptor, which the COVID-19 virus uses to enter cells, is not limited to the lungs but is also found in the intestinal tract and endothelial cells. This discovery helps explain the diverse pathology seen in patients, including acute myocardial injury and acute respiratory distress syndrome. The heart injury could be a result of the infection itself or the ARDS and shock. The intestinal pathology is also confusing, with some patients presenting with GI symptoms and potentially transmitting the virus through fecal-oral routes. The modes of transmission are still being studied, but it's clear that the virus can survive on surfaces for extended periods, making it important to practice good hygiene and maintain a clean environment. The ongoing research brings clarity but also highlights the importance of buying time to understand the virus fully.

    • COVID-19 is highly contagious and more deadly than the fluCOVID-19 is 2-3x more contagious and 4-20x deadlier than the flu, particularly for older adults and vulnerable individuals.

      The novel coronavirus, or COVID-19, is highly transmissible with a reproductive number between 2.24 and 3.58, making it two to three times more contagious than seasonal flu. This high transmissibility is due to the virus's ability to survive on surfaces and be transmitted through various means, including droplet contact, motor transmission, and potentially airborne transmission. The virus's case fatality rate is between 0.6 and 3.4 percent, which is easily four to twenty times higher than influenza. The concerning aspect is that many people carrying the virus are asymptomatic, leading to a large number of infections and a significant impact on healthcare systems, particularly among older populations with higher mortality rates. The importance of taking proper precautions to protect older adults and vulnerable individuals cannot be overstated.

    • Bringing Attention to Neglected IssuesRenowned scientist and advocate Dr. Paul Farmer continues to raise awareness for neglected issues, including the vulnerability of large urban areas to COVID-19 and the need for new antibody therapies to alleviate strain on healthcare systems.

      Dr. Paul Farmer, a renowned scientist and advocate, has used his voice to bring attention to neglected issues throughout his career. From raising awareness for poverty-related diseases in the early 2000s to countering the anti-vaccine movement, Dr. Farmer has consistently advocated for those who don't have a voice. Currently, he is concerned about the vulnerability of large urban areas in the United States to the COVID-19 outbreak, as these areas tend to have a higher population density and better healthcare infrastructure. With the increasing number of confirmed cases, Dr. Farmer predicts that hospital beds and ICU beds will soon be in high demand. He is urging blood banks to implement new antibody therapies to offer hope and alleviate the strain on healthcare systems.

    • Uncertainty and challenges with COVID-19 pandemicDespite efforts to protect vulnerable populations, the COVID-19 pandemic may lead to shortages of ICU beds, ventilators, and healthcare workers. Up to half the world's population could be infected within two years, and it's crucial to stay informed and take necessary precautions.

      The current situation with the COVID-19 pandemic is uncertain and challenging, with potential shortages of ICU beds, ventilators, and healthcare workers looming in the coming weeks. Hospitals have been operating with slim margins, and it's unclear if we'll need to build makeshift hospitals or call in the National Guard to handle the excess patient load. The virus is highly transmissible, and estimates suggest that up to half the world's population could be infected within the next two years, even with the lowest mortality rate. These projections are based on models, and small changes in assumptions can lead to significant differences in outcomes. The pandemic is a complex problem that requires coordinated efforts from the federal, state, and local governments, as well as the healthcare industry. It's important to remember that we've taken steps to protect vulnerable populations, and there's hope that warmer weather may help slow the spread, but we cannot count on it. Confronting a new virus is always challenging, and it's essential to stay informed and take necessary precautions to protect ourselves and our communities.

    • Making tough decisions for nursing home residents during COVID-19Understanding COVID-19 spread and risks, involving experts, focusing on data and demographics, and addressing federal guidance gaps are crucial for nursing home residents' safety.

      While models can provide valuable insights into the spread of COVID-19, their accuracy depends on our understanding of the virus and its modes of transmission. Older individuals, particularly those in nursing homes, are at high risk and tough decisions need to be made regarding their socialization and quarantine. These decisions require a multi-disciplinary approach with experts in infectious disease, mental health, and nursing home structures. Personal attention should be paid to incidents and prevalence data, as well as the demographics of new infections, to determine which path the outbreak may take. Unfortunately, there is a lack of federal guidance and a need for specialized task forces to address these complex issues.

    • Staying informed on vaccine trials and open communicationFollow vaccine trials closely, stay informed, and adapt to new information while combating misinformation through open communication and expert engagement.

      The ongoing COVID-19 pandemic requires constant evaluation and updating of information as new data emerges. Dr. Fauci emphasized the importance of following vaccine trials closely, especially those initiated in areas where the virus is currently present, as there is a risk of immune enhancement among volunteers. He also highlighted the need for open communication and public engagement from experts and scientists to combat the spread of misinformation. Dr. Fauci acknowledged the challenges of navigating different media platforms and their biases, but emphasized the importance of staying informed and adapting to new information as the situation evolves. He encouraged listeners to stay engaged and informed, and to continue to look for the best assessments of the current situation in real time.

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    • Pathophysiology of MASLD, the need for proactive screening, and the significance of liver fat percentage as an indicator of metabolic health [1:36:30];
    • The importance of screening for rare conditions alongside common metabolic diseases associated with fatty liver accumulation [1:42:45];
    • Practical strategies for managing MAFLD [1:45:30];
    • The impact of fructose consumption on liver health and the challenges of disentangling its effects from other factors like obesity and insulin resistance [1:52:45];
    • The potential of GLP-1 agonists for the treatment of MASLD [1:57:45];
    • How the four stages of liver disease have evolved [2:00:30];
    • Increased cancer and heart disease risk associated with early-stage MAFLD [2:05:15];
    • Emerging drugs and therapies for addressing fat accumulation and fibrosis related to MAFLD [2:12:15];
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    • More.

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    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

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    In this “Ask Me Anything” (AMA) episode, Peter delves into the often misunderstood concept of inflammation. He first defines inflammation and differentiates between acute inflammation and chronic inflammation, the latter of which is linked to aging and a plethora of age-related diseases. Peter breaks down the intricate relationship between chronic inflammation, obesity, and metabolic health, and highlights the signs that might suggest someone may be suffering from chronic inflammation. From there, the conversation centers on actionable advice and practical steps one can take to manage and minimize chronic inflammation. He explores how diet plays a crucial role, including the potential benefits of elimination diets, and he examines the impact of lifestyle factors such as exercise, sleep, and stress management. Additionally, he discusses the relevance of food inflammatory tests and concludes by examining the potential benefits and drawbacks of drugs and supplements in managing inflammation.

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    We discuss:

    • Defining inflammation (and the cultural impact of Napoleon Dynamite) [1:45];
    • Acute vs chronic inflammation [8:00];
    • The connection between chronic inflammation, aging, and age-related diseases [11:00];
    • The impact of inflammation on metabolic health [18:30];
    • Understanding and diagnosing chronic inflammation: blood tests and other approaches, and challenges with measurement [20:00];
    • Factors that contribute to low-level chronic inflammation [28:00];
    • Minimizing inflammation through diet [29:45];
    • The important role of fiber for gut health and inflammation [33:45];
    • A closer look at the impact of trans fats and saturated fats on overall health [34:45];
    • Why Peter prefers dietary fiber from food sources over supplements [38:30];
    • Debunking “superfoods”: emphasizing proven methods over marketing claims for reducing inflammation [39:00];
    • Is there any value in over-the-counter food inflammatory tests? [42:30];
    • Food elimination diets: how they work, symptoms and markers to watch, challenges and limitations [45:15];
    • Identifying dietary triggers for gut-related symptoms through low-FODMAP diets like the “carnivore diet” [51:15];
    • Dairy: the complex role of dairy on inflammation and individual responses [55:00];
    • Wheat: the complexities and conflicting evidence around wheat's inflammatory effects [57:45];
    • How exercise influences inflammation [1:02:00];
    • How sleep quality and duration impacts inflammation [1:07:00];
    • The potential impact of chronic psychological stressors on inflammation [1:13:00];
    • The impact of oral health on inflammation and overall well-being [1:15:00];
    • The role of medications in managing chronic inflammation [1:18:15];
    • Supplements: evaluating the efficacy of various anti-inflammatory supplements [1:22:15];
    • Parting thoughts and takeaways [1:27:00]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enMay 13, 2024

    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

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    In this special edition celebrating 300 episodes of The Drive, Peter discusses a variety of popular topics and health interventions and classifies them based on their level of evidence and relevance using the following categories: proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense. Peter first delves into the topic of geroprotective molecules, covering rapamycin, metformin, NAD and its precursors, and resveratrol. Next, he explores the significance of metrics like VO2 max and muscle mass, as well as emerging concepts like blood flow restriction and stem cells. The conversation extends to nutrition, addressing questions surrounding long-term fasting, sugar consumption, sugar substitutes, and the contentious role of red meat in cancer. Peter not only provides his current stance on each topic—most of which have been covered in great detail in the previous 300 episodes—but also reflects on how his opinion may have evolved over the years.

    We discuss:

    • Defining the categories of “proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense” [3:15];
    • Rapamycin [9:30];
    • Metformin [17:00];
    • NAD and its precursors [24:30];
    • Resveratrol [32:45];
    • The importance of VO2 max, muscle mass, and muscular strength for lifespan [38:15];
    • Blood flow restriction (BFR) training [44:00];
    • Using stem cells to treat osteoarthritis or injury [51:30];
    • Fasting as a tool for longevity (and why Peter stopped his fasting protocol) [55:45];
    • The energy balance theory [1:06:30];
    • The idea that sugar is poison [1:12:00];
    • The idea that sugar substitutes are dangerous [1:22:15];
    • The debate on red meat and cancer [1:28:45]; and
    • More.

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    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

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    This is a special episode of The Drive with Peter’s friend and fellow car enthusiast Dax Shepard. In this podcast, which commemorates the 30th anniversary of the death of Brazilian Formula One legend Ayrton Senna, Dax sits down with Peter to better understand what made Senna so special and why Peter remains an enormous fan. This conversation focuses on Senna’s life, the circumstances of his death, and his lasting impact and legacy on the sport of F1.

    We discuss:

    • Peter’s interest in motorsports began as a child [2:30];
    • The drama and dangers of F1 [6:00];
    • What made Senna special [13:00];
    • What Senna meant to Brazilians [24:00];
    • The cause of the fatal crash [28:15];
    • Why Peter is obsessed with Senna [40:30];
    • Being the best versus having the best record [43:30];
    • Senna’s unique driving style and incredible intuition about automotive engineering [46:30];
    • Back to the day of the dreadful race [53:00];
    • What Peter believes caused the crash [1:02:45];
    • Views on dying young, in the prime of life [1:13:00];
    • Senna lives on in his foundation and in safety changes adopted by F1 [1:21:00];
    • Statistics aren’t enough for fandom, and why people like who they do [1:24:15];
    • The biggest difference between F1 today and F1 in the 80s [1:28:30];
    • Senna’s driving superpower [1:30:30];
    • The fastest drivers currently in F1 [1:38:30];
    • Current F1 obsessions [1:45:00];
    • How hard it is to do what the top F1 drivers do [1:50:15];
    • Dax’s love of motorcycles and his AMG E63 station wagon [1:52:15];
    • Awesome Senna mementos from Etsy [2:01:15];
    • What makes specialists interesting, and Max’s devotion to F1 [2:10:15];
    • What Senna might have done if he had not died that day [2:14:00];
    • Michael Schumacher and Max Verstappen are also top F1 drivers [2:17:30];
    • Interlagos in Sao Paulo Brazil is always an incredible experience [2:18:45]; and
    • More.

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