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    Advice Line with Joe Kudla of Vuori

    enJuly 25, 2024
    What pivot did Joe Kudla make with his business?
    Why are strong customer relationships important for businesses?
    What strategies can help expand product offerings effectively?
    How can companies build trust with retailers?
    What three key areas should businesses focus on for growth?

    Podcast Summary

    • Customer ConnectionUnderstanding and adapting to customers' needs is crucial for business success, even during financially challenging times. Strong customer relationships and authentic connection are becoming increasingly relevant in today's business landscape.

      Being intimately connected with your customers and their needs is crucial for a business's success, even during financially challenging times. Joe Kudla, the founder of Viori, shared his experience of pivoting his business from a graphic t-shirt brand to clothing for various activities, which resonated with customers and led to the brand's growth. Despite having limited resources, Joe's focus on understanding his customers and adapting to their needs allowed him to make effective decisions and build a successful brand. This approach, which emphasizes the importance of strong customer relationships and authentic connection, is becoming increasingly relevant in today's business landscape, as investors become more discerning and businesses reevaluate their priorities. For Lori Bose, founder of Green Cloud Apparel, this means considering how to expand her product offerings to better cater to her customers' needs and desires, even as her business becomes profitable.

    • Growing a BusinessFocus on having the right team, creating an amazing product, and implementing effective sales and marketing strategies to grow a business. Attract and retain talent with stock options or equity in the early days.

      When a business, such as Lori's healthcare scrubs company, is approaching profitability and looking to grow, it's crucial to focus on three key areas: having the right team, creating an amazing product, and implementing effective sales and marketing strategies. Lori shared her experience from her previous company, VORI, and how investing in a marketing person helped define their engine of growth. She also emphasized the importance of creating a product that not only meets the needs of the market but also resonates with the target audience. Lastly, she suggested identifying influential tastemakers within the healthcare industry and turning them into brand ambassadors to generate buzz and build a community around the brand. To find a marketing person, Lori was advised to look at companies in her industry and find someone young and hungry who is passionate about what she's building. In the early days, offering stock options or equity could be an effective way to attract and retain talent.

    • Early team contributionsPassionate individuals without formal titles or significant compensation can contribute significantly to a company's growth during early stages. Focusing on sustainable growth and offering equity to potential partners may help overcome scaling challenges.

      Bringing passionate and committed individuals on board, even without a formal co-founder title or significant financial compensation, can significantly contribute to a company's growth during its early stages. This was exemplified by the head of marketing at Green Cloud Apparel who took a pay cut to join the team due to her belief in the brand's mission. Similarly, a new business, My Name Is Ted from Ireland, is facing challenges in scaling internationally. Joe Kudla, founder of Viori, suggested focusing on sustainable growth and potentially motivating potential partners with equity to help overcome these hurdles. Another important aspect discussed was the potential for merging comfort and style in product offerings, which has become increasingly popular in today's market.

    • Adversity and innovationPerseverance and creativity in the face of adversity can lead to innovative solutions and successful businesses. Unique design inspiration and targeting the right market can help build a community and expand to new markets.

      Perseverance and creativity can lead to the success of a business, even in the face of adversity. The story of the leather goods business was inspired by the entrepreneur's grandfather, who had to adapt to making small leather goods while recovering from an injury. The initial product line focused on men's satchels and briefcases, but the market demand shifted towards women's handbags. The unique design inspiration came from the doors of Dublin, leading to the creation of the Doorbike collection. The brand has seen success in Ireland and has begun expanding to the US market, targeting a price point between Kate Spade and higher-end luxury brands. The key to success in this industry is building a community around the brand and aligning pricing strategy with the competitive set. The journey of starting a business involves overcoming challenges and finding innovative solutions to meet market demands.

    • Building a Luxury BrandHaving a strong community, influencer base, right wholesale partners, press coverage, targeting the right markets, understanding price point, and market positioning are crucial for building a successful luxury brand.

      Building a successful brand, especially in the luxury market, requires a strategic approach and time. This was highlighted in the discussion between Brendan McAvoy and the guests, where they discussed their experiences growing their handbag company, Vyori. They mentioned the importance of having a strong community and influencer base, as well as the right wholesale partners and press coverage. They also emphasized the significance of targeting the right markets, specifically Los Angeles, Miami, and New York. McAvoy also touched upon the importance of understanding your price point and market positioning. The guests agreed that building a luxury brand from scratch is a challenging process, but with the right strategies and partnerships, it can be achieved. Additionally, they suggested that finding the right people to represent your brand and creating buzz through influencer marketing and press coverage can be more impactful than traditional online advertising.

    • Direct-to-consumer vs Wholesale salesDirect-to-consumer sales can help small businesses build brand awareness and create loyal customers, but pursuing wholesale opportunities can lead to increased volume and visibility at the cost of reduced margins. Entrepreneurship involves weighing the pros and cons of various strategies and being persistent and adaptable.

      For a small business like Steve's, focusing on direct-to-consumer sales can be an effective way to build brand awareness and create a loyal customer base, especially when introducing a new and unique product like ski skins. However, pursuing wholesale opportunities can lead to increased volume and visibility, but at the cost of significantly reduced margins. Steve's business, which produces ski skins that slide over gloves or mittens to change their appearance and provide functional benefits like having trail maps printed on them, started with hand-sewn prototypes and has since grown through word-of-mouth marketing and giving away products. They have invested a significant amount of money into pursuing a patent and currently sell their skins for $35 each, making them locally in Denver. While considering scaling, they are weighing the pros and cons of continuing with their current approach or expanding through wholesale partnerships. The discussion also touched on the challenges and rewards of entrepreneurship, including the importance of persistence and adaptability.

    • Brand strategyA successful brand strategy involves both direct-to-consumer and wholesale approaches, building relationships, creating a community, and focusing on long-term goals.

      Building a successful brand involves a thoughtful approach to both direct-to-consumer and wholesale strategies. Direct-to-consumer models can be effective for gaining initial traction, but awareness is a significant challenge for new businesses. A well-executed wholesale strategy, including building relationships with retailers and developing a strong presence in-store, can help build trust and reach a larger audience. Additionally, creating a community around the product through user-generated content and influencer partnerships can significantly boost sales and brand awareness. It's important to focus on building a scalable cost structure and consider the long-term goals of the business when deciding which channels to prioritize. Ultimately, a combination of both direct-to-consumer and wholesale strategies can lead to sustainable growth for a new brand.

    • Entrepreneurial journey and rejectionThe entrepreneurial journey, filled with rejections, shapes individuals into resilient and devoted individuals, preparing them for future challenges.

      The entrepreneurial journey, filled with challenges and rejections, shapes individuals into resilient and devoted individuals. Joe Kudla, a past interviewee on Guy Raz's podcast, shared his experience of grappling with rejection while trying to raise capital for an apparel brand. He described it as building his backbone, preparing him for the challenges ahead. This experience is not unique to Joe, but rather a common theme among entrepreneurs. The journey teaches valuable lessons about oneself, making it an unparalleled learning experience. If you're currently on an entrepreneurial journey and need advice, consider reaching out to Guy Raz's podcast for insights and insights from successful entrepreneurs. Remember, rejection is a part of the process, and it shapes us into stronger individuals.

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