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    ALLEN, TEXAS MASS SHOOTING: MEDIA LIES & THE TRUTH ABOUT THE KILLER! | Louder with Crowder

    enMay 08, 2023

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    • Reason and fact-based decision makingAcknowledge truth, avoid irrational reactions, focus on root causes, and discuss practical steps to reduce mass shootings.

      Empathy and facts should guide our actions, rather than jumping to conclusions based on incomplete information. The discussion touched upon various issues, including mass shootings, the New York subway incident, and reparations. The importance of acknowledging the truth and avoiding irrational reactions was emphasized, as seen in the reactions to the New York subway incident and the ongoing debate about reparations. The speaker also highlighted the need to focus on addressing the root causes of problems, rather than fixating on minor issues. In the context of mass shootings, the speaker suggested discussing practical steps to reduce their occurrence. Overall, the message was one of reason and fact-based decision-making, rather than reacting based on emotions or biases.

    • Funding Approval and Racially Charged ExchangeThe group discussed a large funding approval, leading to disagreements and the use of a racially loaded word. Criticisms were raised against Kamala Harris's roles as border czar and AI czar, but her love of school buses was praised.

      The discussion revolved around a large approval for funding, $800 billion, which some individuals found excessive. During the conversation, the use of a racially loaded word was addressed, leading to a heated exchange. The conversation then shifted to Kamala Harris, who was criticized for her roles as border czar and AI czar, with concerns raised about her qualifications for these positions. Despite these criticisms, Harris was praised for her love of school buses, a shared interest among the group. The conversation also touched on Harris's recent speech at the White House Forum for Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islanders, where she discussed Africa and the median age on the continent, which was met with skepticism. Overall, the conversation showcased a mix of serious discussion and light-hearted banter.

    • Americans face inflation and economic hardships despite government assurancesOfficial inflation rate underestimates true inflation, labor participation rate is lower than pre-pandemic, government efforts to address inflation may worsen it, record-breaking border crossings, and allegations of inappropriate relationships among government officials

      Despite the government's assurances about the economy, Americans are experiencing significant inflation and economic hardships. Inflation, which is officially reported to be around 5%, may actually be closer to 17% if housing prices were included in the Consumer Price Index. The labor force participation rate is also still lower than pre-pandemic levels. The government's attempts to address inflation through the same methods used in the past may exacerbate the problem. Additionally, there have been record-breaking numbers of illegal border crossings, and there have been allegations of inappropriate relationships with powerful figures in the past for some government officials. It's important for individuals to be informed and aware of these issues, and to seek out multiple sources of information to make informed decisions.

    • The Importance of Free Speech and Alternative PlatformsFree speech and alternative platforms are essential for individuals whose content is censored or suppressed on mainstream sites. The media's predictable response to mass shootings, spreading misinformation, and politicizing tragedies was criticized. Community support, truth, and effective police training were emphasized.

      Free speech and alternative platforms are crucial for individuals whose content is censored or suppressed on mainstream platforms like YouTube. The discussion highlighted the case of a content creator named "Guns and Gear," who was shadow banned on YouTube for discussing suppressors, a topic that the platform's algorithm finds objectionable. This issue underscores the importance of having alternative platforms where such content can be freely shared and discussed. Another significant point from the conversation was the predictable response of the media to mass shootings, which often involves politicizing the tragedy and advocating for gun control measures that would not have prevented the incident. The speakers criticized the media for spreading misinformation and for perpetuating myths, such as the idea that guns are the leading cause of death among children or that white supremacy is a significant factor in mass shootings. The speakers also emphasized the importance of community support and speaking truth in the face of misinformation and political manipulation. They encouraged listeners to help those affected by tragedies in their communities and to stand up for the truth, even when it is unpopular or controversial. Finally, they highlighted the importance of training police officers to effectively respond to active shooter situations, as many mass shootings are stopped by individuals with guns or by law enforcement.

    • Presence of a firearm is constant factor in mass shootingsWait for accurate and comprehensive information before jumping to conclusions about shooters' motivations or ethnicity, as initial reports may be incorrect and limited information can perpetuate misinformation

      The constant factor in mass shootings is the presence of a firearm. The shooters vary in age, ethnicity, mental health history, and motivations. Media outlets may jump to conclusions and label shooters as white supremacists based on limited information. Mauricio Garcia, a recent shooter, was initially reported as a white supremacist, but he was actually a Hispanic male. The labeling of shooters without concrete evidence can perpetuate misinformation and misunderstanding. It's crucial to wait for accurate and comprehensive information before making assumptions. Security guards, including Mauricio, undergo less vetting than those who carry permits. The shooter's social media posts, which are often cited as evidence of their motivations, are not publicly available. Therefore, it's essential to approach such reports with skepticism and wait for verified information.

    • Shooter's racial identity and motivations unclearAvoid jumping to conclusions about shooter's background and motivations based on limited information.

      The racial identity and motivations of the shooter in question remain unclear and should not be hasty or inaccurately labeled based on limited information. The shooter, who is not white, targeted a predominantly white area in Allen, Texas, despite coming from a more diverse neighborhood in Dallas. This behavior does not align with typical white supremacist actions. Additionally, the shooter's employment history and potential connections to specific locations are worth exploring further. It's crucial to avoid jumping to conclusions and allow the investigation to unfold before making definitive statements about the shooter's background and motivations.

    • Media's portrayal of mass killings may not always be accurateIt's crucial to differentiate between illegal and legal immigrants and their crimes, and address the issue of illegal immigrants committing crimes in vulnerable areas, which often goes unreported due to fear of deportation.

      The media's portrayal of recent mass killings as acts of white supremacy or terrorism may not always be accurate. While it's important to acknowledge the existence of white supremacy and terrorism, it's also crucial to differentiate between illegal and legal immigrants and the crimes they commit. The last three mass killings in Texas involved Hispanic males, and it's essential to address the issue of illegal immigrants committing crimes in areas where vulnerable populations, including legal immigrants, reside. These illegal immigrants often don't report crimes due to fear of deportation, creating a lawless environment that harms everyone. The media's focus on certain narratives, like white supremacy or trans issues, can distract from the complexities of these situations and hinder productive conversations. It's essential to encourage accurate reporting and nuanced discussions on these topics.

    • Media coverage and social contagionMedia coverage can inadvertently influence harmful narratives and potentially encourage copycat behavior. Not all media coverage is misleading, and it's crucial to approach stories with a critical and informed perspective. Effective policies to reduce gun violence include bail reform and focusing on punishing criminals for their crimes.

      The media's coverage of certain stories can be influenced by social contagion, leading to potential inaccuracies and the perpetuation of harmful narratives. For instance, the discussion highlighted the potential link between media coverage and the rise of gun violence, with some suggesting that sensationalized reporting could inadvertently encourage copycat behavior. However, it's crucial to recognize that not all media coverage is misleading, and it's essential to approach stories with a critical and informed perspective. Additionally, the conversation touched upon the effectiveness of various policy proposals aimed at reducing gun violence. While some, like banning AR-15s, may have limited impact, others, such as bail reform and focusing on punishing criminals for their crimes, could potentially yield more significant results. It's essential to consider the potential consequences of various policies and approach them with a thoughtful and evidence-based perspective.

    • Gun control debate: stricter regulations vs. self-protectionThe gun control debate continues with opposing views on stricter regulations and self-protection, with arguments for both sides considering potential consequences and root causes of mass shootings

      The ongoing debate around gun control and safety measures largely revolves around two opposing viewpoints: those advocating for stricter regulations and gun-free zones, and those advocating for allowing citizens to protect themselves. The former argues that policies like banning certain types of firearms and increasing gun-free zones can help prevent mass shootings. However, critics point out that such measures may lead to unintended consequences, such as confiscation of legally owned firearms and the creation of soft targets for criminals. The latter argues that allowing citizens to carry firearms in public places can help deter mass shootings and protect innocent lives. It's important to note that the majority of mass public shootings occur in gun-free zones, according to crime statistics. Another proposed solution from the left is reparations for the generational impacts of slavery and systemic racism. While this issue is separate from gun control, it's worth mentioning as part of the broader conversation around social and political issues. Ultimately, finding a solution to prevent mass shootings requires a nuanced and comprehensive approach that considers the root causes of the problem and the potential consequences of various policy solutions.

    • Gun control debate: Law-abiding citizens and gun crime statisticsArmed citizens, particularly concealed carry permit holders, are more law-abiding than the general population and have prevented active shooting attacks. Focusing on white supremacy as a solution to gun crime is not statistically sound.

      The debate surrounding gun control is complex and multifaceted. While there are concerns about the number of people carrying firearms and the potential for defensive uses leading to accidents, data shows that armed citizens, particularly concealed carry permit holders, are more law-abiding than the general population and have played a significant role in preventing active shooting attacks. Additionally, focusing on white supremacy as a solution to gun crime is not statistically sound, as a small percentage of gun crime is committed by this demographic. Instead, addressing inter-gang related violence in urban areas through tough on crime policies could be more effective. It's important to acknowledge that the problem of gun violence was created through disregard for existing laws and that a comprehensive approach is needed to address this issue effectively.

    • High-speed crash leads to driver's detainmentA driver's impairment and potential vehicle malfunction led to a high-speed crash, resulting in the driver's detainment. The importance of being aware and ensuring safety is emphasized.

      A high-speed crash led to the detainment of a suspected driver, as witnessed by bystanders. The driver was reportedly impaired and yelling obscenities, and preliminary charges have been announced against him. Police are also investigating possible vehicle malfunction and toxicology reports are pending. The speaker shares a personal experience of a similar incident where a driver lost control, emphasizing the importance of being aware of such situations. The authenticity of CNN's exclusive reporting is uncertain, but the speaker expresses a desire for justice in the form of a swift apprehension of the driver.

    • Media reporting on shooting incidents: factual and unbiased?Accurate reporting and providing valuable information are crucial in media coverage of shooting incidents, while sensationalized reporting can mislead the public.

      The media's reporting on a shooting incident should be factually correct and unbiased. The discussion revolved around a shooting incident where a suspect was found with right-wing extremist material and an AR-15 style weapon. The media reported that the police were investigating right-wing extremism as a possible motive, but the speaker questioned the credibility of the source and the sensationalized reporting. The speaker also shared his disappointment in how the media handled a previous shooting incident in Sutherland Springs, where a hero named Stephen Willeford stopped the shooter and saved lives. The speaker emphasized the importance of accurate reporting and providing valuable information to the audience.

    • Addressing societal issues requires a comprehensive approachTo create a safer, healthier society, we need to tackle complex issues like gun violence and mental health with a multi-faceted approach that addresses root causes and encourages personal responsibility and accountability.

      Addressing complex societal issues like gun violence and mental health requires a comprehensive approach. It's not enough to focus on specific symptoms or causes in isolation. For instance, banning certain types of guns or creating more gun-free zones might seem like quick solutions, but they don't address the root causes of crime or mental health struggles. Similarly, ignoring underlying issues and enabling unhealthy behaviors can lead to negative consequences, including mass shootings and other forms of violence. Instead, we need to address the moral ambiguity and situational ethics that have become prevalent in society, particularly among younger generations. This means encouraging personal responsibility, accountability, and hard work, rather than enabling a culture of entitlement and purposelessness. Additionally, addressing mental health issues and providing effective support systems can help prevent tragedies. Ultimately, a multi-faceted approach that tackles these issues at their core is necessary for creating a safer, healthier society.

    • Societal pressures and individual choices impact mental healthRecognize societal pressures contributing to mental health issues, address root causes, and prioritize well-being over constant validation.

      While individual feelings and experiences are important, they should not be the sole determinant of life choices, as they can lead to chronic stress and mental health issues. The current societal trend of encouraging constant consumption and validation through social media and other means creates unique stressors for younger generations. Additionally, the normalization of certain harmful behaviors, such as substance abuse and moral decay, can have serious consequences. It's crucial to acknowledge the root causes of these issues, including societal pressures and moral decay, and work towards solutions that address them. Ignoring or denying the existence of these problems and labeling those with differing viewpoints as the enemy only perpetuates the cycle of mental and societal destitution.

    • Dehumanizing Opponents and Spreading MisinformationHistorically, dehumanizing opponents and spreading misinformation have led to harmful actions against certain groups. The media can contribute to this cycle, prioritizing clicks and agendas over facts and integrity, leading to increased violence and division.

      Dehumanizing opponents and spreading misinformation can lead to harmful and divisive actions against certain groups. This dehumanization process can be seen throughout history, from the justification of slavery and genocide to modern-day political discourse. The media plays a significant role in this process, prioritizing clicks and agendas over facts and integrity. This can lead to a dangerous cycle of escalating desperation and division, as trust in the media and institutions is lost. The consequences of this can be severe, including increased violence and a shift towards incendiary and sensationalist reporting. It's important to be aware of this trend and strive for a more informed and empathetic approach to understanding complex issues and engaging with diverse perspectives.

    • More complex than initial reports suggestedNew information reveals Neely's violent behavior and arrest history, contradicting initial accusations of white vigilantism against those involved.

      The situation surrounding the death of Jordan Neely on the New York City subway is more complex than initial reports suggested. Che Guevara-like accusations of racism against those involved have been made, but new information has come to light about Neely's own violent behavior and arrest history. The marine, Daniel Penney, who was involved in the incident, was trying to subdue a repeatedly violent man who targeted vulnerable individuals, including women and those perceived as gay. The people in the situation have expressed gratitude for Penney's actions, contradicting the narrative of white vigilantism. It's crucial to consider all perspectives and facts before jumping to conclusions.

    • Perception and Understanding: Beyond Good vs Evil and RaceFocusing on individuals' actions and criminal records, rather than race, leads to a more nuanced understanding of events. Everyone, regardless of race, can be good or evil, and violence often breeds more violence. Understanding the difference between deserving to die and forfeiting the right to live is crucial.

      The way we perceive and approach situations, influenced by our worldview, can significantly impact the outcome. The speaker argues that focusing on good versus evil rather than race can lead to a more nuanced understanding of events. The discussion revolves around incidents in New York and the importance of acknowledging people's actions and criminal records, rather than just their race. The speaker emphasizes that everyone, regardless of race, can be good or evil, and that violence often breeds more violence. The importance of acknowledging the fruit of one's actions and understanding the difference between deserving to die and forfeiting the right to live is also emphasized. Overall, the speaker encourages a more thoughtful and nuanced approach to understanding complex situations.

    • Focus on actions and consequences, not race or identity politicsDiscussing violent incidents should prioritize actions and their consequences to prevent future incidents, rather than getting caught up in race or identity politics.

      Actions and their consequences should be the focus, rather than race or identity politics, when discussing violent incidents. The use of violence against innocent people can lead to severe consequences, regardless of the intentions behind the act. It's essential to consider the actions and how to prevent similar incidents in the future, rather than getting bogged down in discussions of race or identity. This approach allows for a more productive and meaningful conversation about how to address violence and keep communities safe. The context of the discussion also emphasized that violence is not inherently evil or good, but the context and intentions behind the act are crucial factors to consider.

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    Megyn Kelly is joined by Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch of The Fifth Column podcast join to talk about the horrible mass shooting in Maine, guns and mental health conversations after shootings, actual solutions to the problem, how mental health facilities could be used effectively, the horrifying video of Jewish students sheltering in a New York City library while anti-Israel protesters banged on the locked doors, the need for Jews and gentiles alike to help and fight back, the media spinning the story of these anti-Semitic kids and faculty, the statement from Cooper Union President Laura Sparks that barely addressed the fears of Jewish students, an emotional CNN report about one of the young men Hamas took hostage from Israel on October 7, the true scope of Hamas' atrocities, the Biden administration's failures in the Middle East, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan's column that needed to be updated after October 7, the stupid and ignorant college students who are pushing anti-Semitic talking points and tropes, protesters who claim to support Palestinians actually calling for the destruction of Israel, the refusal by many to condemn Hamas, a viral social media post featuring a woman telling men all the places she refuses to go on a first date, tips on her suggestions, and more


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