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    Always the runner up? Here's what it means, and why it's not a bad thing

    enMay 18, 2023
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    Podcast Summary

    • Navigating the Job Application Process with Interview Boss PodcastThe Interview Boss podcast offers valuable advice, inspiration, and support for job seekers, with playlists for each job stage and topics covering resumes, interviews, and starting a new job. Listeners have found success and confidence in their job applications through the podcast's guidance.

      Interview Boss, a podcast hosted by Emma, a radio journalist, and her sister Sarah, a HR and recruitment professional, offers valuable advice, inspiration, and support for those seeking a new job. With over 90 episodes, it's essential not to miss an episode that might be helpful. To make it easier for listeners, Interview Boss has created playlists based on different job stages, from applying and interviewing to accepting and starting a new job. The podcast covers various topics, including resumes, cover letters, job ads, resigning, exit interviews, and impressing at a new company. A listener, who was feeling deflated and lacking confidence in her interview skills after being on a temporary contract for nine years, found empowerment and awareness of her transferable skills through the podcast. She prepared for an interview using the podcast as a guide and felt confident and prepared, leading to a successful interview experience. The podcast's impact is significant, with listeners treating it like a "Bible" to help them navigate the job application process.

    • Every experience, good or bad, can lead to new opportunitiesSetbacks don't define our careers, and developing a positive mindset and self-confidence can help us overcome challenges and advance in our careers.

      Even if you don't get the job you're interviewing for, the experience and confidence gained can lead to new opportunities and personal growth. Britney's story is a great example of this. Despite not getting the desired hybrid arrangement, she received positive feedback, was placed in the merit pool for future positions, and gained the confidence to ask for career development opportunities within her current team. This ultimately led to a permanent job offer and the possibility of future managerial roles. It's important to remember that setbacks don't define our careers, and every experience, good or bad, can lead to new opportunities if we approach them with a positive mindset. Additionally, developing internal champions and mentors, even in a remote work environment, can be crucial in advancing our careers. Britney's story is a reminder that our mindset and self-confidence are powerful tools that can help us overcome challenges and achieve our goals.

    • Dealing with disappointment in job searchThough rejection can feel personal, remember it's not a reflection of your worth. Focus on learning and improving for future opportunities.

      Being a backup candidate or the runner-up in a job search or any competitive situation can be disappointing and frustrating. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that you weren't liked or valued. Companies may have various reasons for choosing someone else, such as hiring someone junior or having specific qualifications in mind. It's essential to remember that rejection can feel personal, but it's important not to let it define you. Instead, focus on learning from the experience and improving yourself for future opportunities. The feelings of not getting the role and being a runner-up can be challenging to deal with, but acknowledging and addressing them can help you move forward. In the end, it's crucial to remember that everyone's journey is unique, and success doesn't always come immediately. Keep pushing forward and stay positive.

    • The hiring process can be unpredictable and involve multiple candidatesStay persistent and resilient during the job search process, and be prepared to adapt to changing circumstances. Having a backup candidate and continuing to apply and interview can increase your chances of finding the right opportunity.

      The job search process can be unpredictable, and rejections are a normal part of it. Companies often hire multiple times for the same role, and the best candidate at a given moment may change. It's important to remember that there's no absolute best person, and factors such as timing and availability can play a role. Having a backup candidate is a smart practice to ensure that the hiring process runs smoothly and efficiently. Additionally, people's plans can change, and it's essential to keep applying and interviewing to increase your chances of finding the right opportunity. The job search process can be challenging, but with persistence and resilience, you can overcome rejections and find a role that's a good fit for you.

    • Having multiple options is important in both dating and recruitmentBeing the backup in dating or recruitment means having peace of mind and preventing unnecessary delays or setbacks, but clear communication is key in both situations

      Having multiple options or backups is important, whether it's in dating or recruitment. In dating, focusing on one person at a time can lead to a longer wait for a relationship, while in recruitment, having a backup candidate ensures that a business doesn't operate short-staffed. The recruiter in the discussion emphasized the importance of having confidence in a potential hire but also having a backup in case something unexpected happens. In dating, being the backup means being kept in the loop but not having a definitive answer, while in recruitment, it means being the runner-up who may still get the job if the first choice falls through. It's essential to communicate openly and honestly in both situations, whether it's breaking up with a date or informing a backup candidate that they haven't gotten the job yet. Overall, having multiple options can provide peace of mind and prevent unnecessary delays or setbacks.

    • Staying in touch can lead to unexpected job opportunitiesMaintain a positive attitude, keep lines of communication open, and stay persistent during the job search process to increase chances of unexpected opportunities

      Being a backup candidate can lead to unexpected opportunities. The speaker shared a personal story of how they were initially passed over for a job but stayed in touch with the company. Later, when someone was let go, they were offered the position. The speaker emphasized the importance of maintaining a positive attitude and keeping the lines of communication open. They also advised that if a company seems to be stringing a candidate along, it's acceptable to check-in and ask for clarity. The speaker concluded that being told that you were the backup candidate is a compliment, as it shows that the company valued your skills and considered you a strong candidate. Overall, the message is to stay persistent, stay positive, and keep the lines of communication open in the job search process.

    • Asked to reapply for a job can be a positive signBeing asked to reapply for a job can be a positive sign, indicating ongoing hiring processes or future opportunities. Maintain open communication with recruiters to increase chances of being considered.

      Being asked to reapply for a job can be a positive sign, indicating that the company is considering you for future opportunities. This could be due to various reasons such as ongoing hiring processes, budget constraints, or the company's preference to maintain a record of applicants. However, the logistical aspect also plays a significant role, as it can be challenging for recruiters to keep track of numerous candidates over extended periods. Therefore, if you're asked to reapply, it's essential to take it as a positive sign and view it as an opportunity to strengthen your application. Additionally, maintaining open communication with the recruiter or hiring manager can help keep your application fresh in their minds and increase your chances of being considered for future opportunities.

    • Don't Write Off a Company After RejectionDespite rejection, consider reaching out to a company again for future opportunities as they may still be interested in you

      While being rejected from a job can be disheartening, it's important not to write off a company based on one experience. Instead, consider the overall interaction and treatment you received throughout the process. If you had a positive experience, it may be worth reaching out to your contact and applying again. Companies sometimes hire backup candidates when their first choice doesn't work out, and this can lead to great opportunities. Remember, they don't know you that well and have only spent a limited time with you during the interview process.

    • Unexpected benefits of being a backup candidateBeing a backup candidate in the job search process can lead to unexpected opportunities, as employers may still consider you for the role or future positions.

      Being a backup candidate in the job search process can have unexpected benefits. Rejection is difficult, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you're not a strong candidate. Employers may not contact all unsuccessful applicants, and being a backup candidate could mean that you're next in line for the role. It's important to remember that employers have their own reasons for making hiring decisions, and it doesn't always reflect on your worth or qualifications. Keep in mind that even if you don't get the job right away, it doesn't mean that opportunities won't come your way in the future. Stay positive and keep applying, as success could be just around the corner.

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