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    An Old-School Boxing Trainer on What It Means to Be a Man

    enMay 16, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • A Child's Observations Shaped Teddy Atlas's CareerTeddy Atlas dropped out of high school, went to jail, but his experiences with his father's healthcare work taught him valuable life lessons, inspiring him to become a world-class boxing trainer.

      That despite coming from a respected and hardworking doctor, Teddy Atlas, the legendary boxing trainer, took an unconventional path in life. He dropped out of high school, went to jail, and became a trainer to 18 world champion boxers. His journey began when he was a child, spending time with his father who provided healthcare to those in need, regardless of their ability to pay. Teddy admits he was "stealing time" by accompanying his father on house calls and hospital visits. This experience instilled in him valuable lessons about personal responsibility, managing fear, overcoming resistance, and what it means to be a man. Despite his unconventional start, Teddy's dedication and passion led him to become a world-class boxing trainer and an inspiration to many.

    • Desiring Attention Through Harmful ActionsSeeking attention through harmful actions can cause harm to oneself and loved ones. Accountability and accepting consequences are crucial for personal growth.

      Seeking attention and connection from loved ones through harmful or misguided actions can lead to negative consequences. The speaker shares his experience of desiring his father's attention through various means, including getting into trouble and even getting sick. However, these actions did not bring him closer to his father, but instead caused harm to himself and his family. A turning point came when the speaker received a lesson in accountability from his father during a hospital visit, where he was made to wait in line and receive stitches without Novocaine. This experience taught him the importance of accepting the consequences of his actions, ultimately leading him to a better path in life.

    • Boxing saved me from prison, led me to a new pathDiscovering boxing kept me out of trouble and led me to a fulfilling career as a boxing trainer

      During a turbulent time in his young adult life, the speaker discovered boxing, which ultimately saved him from a potential 10-year prison sentence. His childhood friend Kevin Rooney, who later trained Mike Tyson, introduced him to the sport and provided him with opportunities to train at a higher level. The speaker initially had no interest in becoming a trainer, but his friend and mentor, Cus D'Amato, saw potential in him and encouraged him to pursue it. Cus, a master manipulator and motivator, believed the speaker was a born teacher and pushed him in that direction. The speaker's discovery of boxing not only kept him out of trouble but also led him to a new path in life.

    • From fighter to trainer: Discovering new opportunitiesAdversity can lead to unexpected opportunities. Belief and loyalty can lead to success, even without monetary compensation.

      Sometimes, when we face setbacks or challenges, they can lead us to discover new paths and opportunities that we may not have considered before. In this story, a man's dream of becoming a fighter was sidelined by an injury, but his trainer, Cus D'Amato, saw potential in him as a trainer instead. D'Amato's belief in the man and his use of psychology to motivate him, combined with the man's loyalty and commitment, led him to become a successful trainer. Despite not being paid, he found fulfillment in the belief and support of his mentor. This experience demonstrates the power of perseverance, loyalty, and the importance of believing in oneself and others. It also highlights the potential for unexpected opportunities to arise from adversity.

    • Unsanctioned boxing gyms in South Bronx served as hope for childrenUnsanctioned boxing gyms in the South Bronx offered kids a safe space to train, dream, and aspire for a better future amidst poverty, violence, and drug addiction.

      In the harsh environment of the South Bronx during the 1960s, unsanctioned boxing gyms, or "smokers," served as beacons of hope and opportunity for young children. These gyms, despite their intense and potentially dangerous surroundings, provided a safe space for kids to train, dream, and aspire for a better future. The proprietors of these gyms played a crucial role in keeping them open, allowing the community's youth to have a chance to escape the poverty, violence, and drug addiction that plagued their neighborhoods. These gyms were more than just a place to box; they were a source of inspiration, a stepping stone to a better life, and a symbol of resilience and determination.

    • Learning essential life skills through boxing gym experiencesJoining a boxing gym can help kids face fears, manage emotions, learn responsibility, and build a sense of community, transforming them into stronger, more confident individuals.

      Participating in a challenging experience, like joining a boxing gym, can help kids learn essential life skills beyond the sport itself. These experiences can teach them how to face fears, manage emotions, and grow into responsible individuals. The gym environment also provides a sense of community and mentorship, often filling the void left by absent fathers. The journey to overcome fears and learn new skills can be a transformative experience, helping kids become stronger, more confident individuals. The boxing gym serves as a metaphor for life, offering opportunities to learn valuable lessons and grow up.

    • The power of a supportive environment and empathyEmpathy and a supportive environment can help individuals overcome their fears and reach their full potential, as demonstrated by the story of Maine Moore and his gym owner mentor.

      Everyone, regardless of their background or current circumstances, has the potential to overcome their challenges with the right guidance and support. The story of Maine Moore, an underweight and bullied boy, illustrates this idea. A gym owner took an interest in Maine and taught him boxing, helping him build confidence and learn valuable skills. However, when it came time for Maine to spar in the ring, he became scared and fell apart. The gym owner, who had a troubled past himself, empathized with Maine and shared his own experiences of being bullied. Through their conversations in the courtroom, which was located above the police station where the gym was, Maine began to open up and gain confidence. This story shows that providing a safe and supportive environment, combined with empathy and understanding, can help individuals overcome their fears and reach their full potential.

    • Embracing personal agency in challenging circumstancesIndividuals have the power to choose their actions and reactions, even in difficult situations, leading to increased confidence and resilience

      Individuals have the power to choose their actions and reactions despite their circumstances. Teddy Atlas, a boxing trainer, used this principle to help two insecure and fearful boys, Maine and Raul, learn to face their fears and become men. By pushing them to fight each other repeatedly, Teddy taught them that they were in control of their choices and behaviors, not their environments or circumstances. The result was a transformation, as the boys learned to stand up for themselves and gained confidence. This experience underscores the importance of recognizing and embracing personal agency, even in the face of adversity.

    • Boxing transforms individuals into championsBoxing teaches discipline, emotional control, and fear management, turning individuals into champions in life

      Boxing, despite its rough reputation, has the power to transform individuals, particularly those from disadvantaged backgrounds, into champions, both in and out of the ring. These individuals learned discipline, emotional control, and fear management, becoming champions not just in boxing, but in life. A champion, according to Teddy Atlas, is someone who makes their own choices and takes control, no matter their circumstances. The hardest lesson to teach a boxer, or anyone, is the acceptance of responsibility. One can either have reasons to overcome obstacles or excuses to make them insurmountable. Boxing provides an opportunity to prove oneself, to rise above adversity, and to become the best version of oneself, regardless of background or circumstances.

    • Overcoming adversity is crucial for personal growthMaguire's career as a mentor and trainer revolves around instilling accountability and grit to help young men become fighters and men, drawing from his own experiences of growing up and dealing with setbacks.

      Facing challenges and overcoming resistance is a crucial part of becoming a fighter, a teacher, a doctor, or any kind of person worth striving for. It's easier to keep going and fight through difficulties than it is to give up and quit, which can haunt us long after the fight is over. As a mentor and trainer, Maguire has spent his career helping young men develop into fighters and men by instilling in them the importance of accountability and the grit to persevere through adversity. His own experiences, including growing up with a stepfather who belittled him and dealing with unexpected setbacks in his career, have shaped his understanding of what it means to be a man.

    • A Father's Inspiring Acts of PerseveranceFather's actions, like saving a life with a hernia and waiting decades for surgery, taught valuable lessons about resilience and determination.

      The speaker's father, despite facing immense pain and challenges, was a constant source of inspiration and determination for his son. The father's actions, such as saving a woman's life as a young intern despite having a hernia, and waiting 35 years to get surgery, taught the speaker valuable lessons about perseverance and resilience. The speaker also noted his father's unique sense of humor and ability to prioritize even in difficult situations. Ultimately, the speaker's father served as an architect of his understanding of what it means to be a man, and his influence remained strong despite the passage of time.

    • Understanding Responsibility vs ConvenienceRecognize the importance of responsibility over convenience and learn to face life's challenges head-on.

      Responsibility and convenience are two different things. Teddy Atlas, a boxing trainer and podcast host, shared his personal experience of pushing through pain and returning to work despite being in the hospital. He emphasized that understanding the difference between convenience and responsibility is essential. Atlas also highlighted that everyone is fighting their own battles in life, and using boxing as a metaphor, he tries to help people navigate their struggles through his podcast, "The Fight." His new audio book, "Atlas from the Streets to the Ring," further explores this theme. So, the key takeaway is to recognize the importance of responsibility over convenience and learn to face life's challenges head-on. To learn more about Teddy Atlas and his work, check out his podcast and book.

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