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    Are the rich really getting richer and poor becoming poorer?

    enDecember 06, 2019

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    • Wealth gap between rich and poor continues to widenThe wealthiest 10% have seen their wealth grow almost four times faster than the poorest 10% in the last decade, contributing to a widening wealth disparity.

      While the combined wealth of British households has risen over the past decade, the wealth growth of the richest 10% has been almost four times as fast as that of the poorest 10%. This trend, as shown in the Office for National Statistics' annual report, is due in part to people putting more money into pensions and increasing interest in personal finance management. However, the gap between the rich and the poor continues to widen, with London and the southeast having much higher net wealth due to factors like higher wages and property prices. This wealth disparity is a topic of debate in the upcoming general election, with political parties addressing the issue of income and wealth inequality.

    • Widening wealth gap between richest and poorest despite decreasing income inequalityThe Gini coefficient shows decreasing income inequality, but the wealth gap between the richest and poorest has widened significantly due to magnified wealth growth in housing and pensions, leaving the poorest with stagnant incomes that fall behind inflation.

      While the UK has seen a decrease in income and wealth inequality according to the Gini coefficient, the wealth gap between the richest and poorest 10% has widened significantly. This is due in part to the magnifying effect of wealth growth, particularly in the housing market and pension savings. While the richest have seen their wealth and income grow, the poorest have experienced stagnant incomes that fall behind inflation. This disparity is a significant issue that needs to be addressed. Despite the statistical evidence of decreasing inequality, the perception of growing inequality and the widening wealth gap between the richest and poorest remains a pressing concern. The impact of this disparity is most pronounced among the bottom 0.1% of the population, where the income gap is particularly large. Therefore, while the Gini coefficient may suggest a more equal society, the lived experiences of those in the poorest deciles tell a different story.

    • Anecdotal evidence of wealth gap despite statistical improvementInvesting in infrastructure and job creation in underprivileged areas can help spread wealth more evenly, but addressing income inequality requires a multi-faceted approach acknowledging regional differences and varying household compositions.

      While statistics may show income inequality is not getting worse or even improving in some areas, anecdotal evidence suggests a significant wealth gap between different regions and individuals. Defining who is "rich" and addressing income inequality becomes complex due to regional differences and varying household compositions. One solution could be investing in infrastructure and job creation in underprivileged areas to help spread wealth more evenly. The conversation also touched upon how earnings potential does not always translate to increased wealth due to rising costs and expenses. Ultimately, closing the income gap requires a multi-faceted approach that acknowledges these complexities.

    • Shift in composition of UK household wealthOver the past decade, private pension pots have become a larger share of UK household wealth, surpassing housing wealth for the first time, and highlighting the importance of understanding pension investments and inheritance tax policies.

      While regional discrepancies have contributed to stagnant household wealth growth in some parts of the UK, particularly the Northeast and East Midlands, the composition of household wealth has shifted significantly over the past decade. Private pension pots now make up 42% of household wealth, compared to 34% a decade earlier, and have outpaced the growth of housing wealth, which comprises 35% of household wealth. This growing gap between pension wealth and housing wealth is worth noting, especially considering the potential risks associated with pension investments and the ongoing debate around inheritance tax policies. The national average net household wealth stands at £286,600, with significant variations across regions, and the presence of large pension pots in areas outside of London, where property prices are lower, can skew the wealth distribution. Additionally, the ongoing discussion around inheritance tax reforms highlights the importance of understanding the various components of household wealth and the potential implications of tax policies on different segments of the population.

    • A listener seeks advice on achieving a comfortable retirement despite limited pension savingsListeners, even with limited pension savings, can explore various methods to increase their retirement income through saving, investing, or topping up their pension.

      While some argue for a wealth tax due to perceived wealth inequality, the current UK government has implemented various taxes targeting high earners, including pension contributions and property transactions. However, a listener with a small pension pot and limited income is concerned about retiring comfortably. The listener, aged 58 and debt-free, has around £6,000 in their company pension and is seeking a monthly income of £1,500 to £2,000. The listener had previously cashed out an £84,000 pension pot to pay off debts, leaving them with £63,000 after taxes. They have since rejoined their company's pension scheme and have additional savings of around £420,000 in a bank account from an inheritance. The listener is asking for advice on how to save, invest, or top up their pension to achieve their desired retirement income. This question has garnered significant attention on their website. While the debate on wealth distribution continues, it's essential to address individual financial concerns and explore potential solutions for those seeking a comfortable retirement.

    • Impact of retirement savings and inheritance decisionsWisely managing retirement savings and inheritance can impact retirement planning. Consider individual circumstances and seek advice before making decisions.

      Managing your retirement savings and inheritance wisely can significantly impact your ability to retire early. A reader in the discussion was 58 and had cashed out their pension at 55 to pay off debts, which could have negatively affected their retirement planning. If they hadn't raided their pension pot, they could have continued contributing to it instead of being limited to £4,000 a year under current rules. However, the decision to cash out might have been necessary due to serious debts. The expert suggested checking your state pension to ensure you'll receive a full amount, and planning ahead if you want to keep your inheritance in cash by splitting it up to avoid financial service compensation scheme rules. Alternatively, investing the inheritance could potentially yield a higher return, but comes with risks. Ultimately, it's crucial to consider your individual circumstances and seek professional advice when making decisions about your retirement savings and inheritance.

    • Exploring Different Ways to Generate a Steady Income from InvestmentsConsider various investment strategies like annuities, income-generating trusts, and tax-efficient vehicles for a steady income. Seek professional advice and carefully monitor your investments.

      While there are various ways to generate a steady income from investments, it's essential to consider the risks and seek professional financial advice. Investing for a monthly income might not be the most reliable option due to market fluctuations. Annuities could be an alternative, but it's crucial to understand their pros and cons. Another strategy is to build a diversified portfolio of income-generating investment trusts. This approach allows for potential dividend income and capital gains, but it requires careful selection and monitoring. Additionally, utilizing tax-efficient vehicles like ISAs can help maximize returns. Vanguard, a well-known investment firm, has recently entered the UK market with a pension platform, but it took longer than expected to do so. Ultimately, the key is to educate yourself, consult experts, and make informed decisions based on your unique financial situation.

    • Vanguard's low-cost tracker funds and platformVanguard's platform offers simple, cheap, and effective way to build up a pension or invest for long term, keeping over 95.6% of investment over 30 years due to low charges.

      Vanguard's low-cost tracker funds and investing platform have gained popularity due to their very low charges, making it an attractive option for those looking to build up a pension or invest easily and cheaply. For instance, an annual charge of 0.15% for every £1,000 invested translates to just £1.50 a year. Although Vanguard only offers its own funds, their life strategy funds that invest globally and share your money between different assets are a good choice for a simple, cheap pension. The annual management charge of 0.22% for these funds, when added to the 0.15% platform charge, results in keeping over 95.6% of your investment over 30 years. This is a significant improvement compared to higher charges, which can significantly reduce the amount you keep over the long term. Overall, Vanguard's platform offers a simple, cheap, and effective way to build up a pension or invest for the long term.

    • High annual management charges can reduce investment returns significantlyInvesting in commercial property through an open-ended fund can be risky due to potential illiquidity. Consider investing in a property through an investment trust instead.

      High annual management charges can significantly reduce the returns on your investments. For instance, if you have £100,000 invested and the annual management charge is 10%, you would only keep 86.04% of your initial investment. This substantial difference can serve as a wake-up call for investors with expensive management fees. Another issue highlighted in the discussion is the problem of illiquidity in commercial property funds. The latest example of this is M and G's £2.5 billion commercial property fund, which suspended trading due to a rush of investors requesting their money back. The fund's inability to sell assets quickly to meet these demands has left investors unable to access their funds. This issue is not new, as commercial property funds have faced similar challenges during Brexit uncertainty and the retail slump. The key takeaway here is that investing in commercial property through an open-ended fund can be risky due to the potential for illiquidity. It's generally recommended to consider investing in a property through an investment trust instead, as these do not have to grow or shrink in line with incoming or outgoing funds.

    • Investing in commercial property through trusts vs. open-ended fundsProper documentation, like a dated letter of gift, is crucial for avoiding inheritance tax on gifting valuable assets.

      When it comes to holding illiquid assets like commercial property, investing through an investment trust rather than an open-ended fund can offer more flexibility and protection against market volatility. The discussion also touched on the potential implications of recent financial events, such as the Woodford situation, leading to possible regulatory changes that could limit open-ended funds' ability to hold direct commercial property. Additionally, the conversation covered a reader's question regarding gifting a valuable stamp collection and the importance of documenting such gifts for inheritance tax purposes. The key takeaway is that maintaining proper documentation, such as a dated letter of gift, can help ensure that the transfer of assets falls outside of the giver's estate for tax purposes.

    • Documenting Gifts of Premium BondsDocumenting gifting of Premium Bonds with signed letters and proper records can help simplify probate and potential tax challenges after death.

      Maintaining proper records and obtaining signed letters when gifting money, especially large sums, can be beneficial when dealing with probate forms and potential tax challenges after death. Premium Bonds, a popular lottery-style savings product, have long been a subject of debate regarding winning chances and holding amounts. While the odds of winning are extremely low, with 40,330,000,000 to 1, it's important to remember that winnings are not returned, and your money remains in the account. The National Savings and Investments (NS&I) has made it easier to gift premium bonds to others, but the chances of winning remain the same regardless of the number of holders. The average holding amount of winners is around £36,000, but smaller wins have occurred. Keeping records and obtaining signed letters can help ensure that gifting is properly documented and recognized when needed.

    • The odds of winning a large prize in Premium Bonds are slimEven with large investments, odds of winning a significant prize in Premium Bonds remain low, but the potential for a big win keeps many invested.

      The odds of winning a large prize in the National Savings and Investments Premium Bonds are extremely low, even for those who hold larger amounts. For instance, holding £50,000 reduces your odds to 1 in 835,000, while £36,000 brings it to 1 in 1,200,000. Conversely, numbers bought since 2010 accounted for 79% of prizes worth £10,000 or more in the first third of 2019 due to the growing popularity of premium bonds. Despite the slim chances, the allure of winning a significant prize keeps people invested. If you've won £1,000,000 or more on Premium Bonds, contact us at editor@thisismoney.co.uk to share your story anonymously.

    • Engaging in financial discussions can be valuableStay informed through reputable sources, engage in discussions, and provide feedback to help others discover valuable resources

      Engaging with financial discussions and seeking advice can be valuable, whether through podcasts, comments sections, or direct messages. However, it's important to remember that financial goals and the means to achieve them can vary greatly, and expectations should be realistic. For instance, attempting to negotiate a large sum of money might not be feasible through casual communication channels. Instead, staying informed about the latest financial news through reputable sources and engaging in discussions can help individuals make informed decisions and build a strong financial foundation. Additionally, providing feedback and ratings on podcasts can help others discover valuable resources.

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