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    B2B brand building in the era of AI with Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg

    enJune 12, 2024
    What is the main focus of future marketing?
    How do B2B and B2C marketing principles compare?
    What role do distinctive assets play in branding?
    Why is brand awareness crucial in B2B marketing?
    What opportunities exist for marketers in B2B?

    Podcast Summary

    • B2B marketing shiftB2B marketing is valuable and essential, with key differences from B2C marketing, including larger spending spreads and a focus on marketing beyond sales and products.

      The future of marketing lies in B2B, which is often overlooked despite being half and the faster growing part of the economy. Contrary to popular belief, most principles of B2C marketing also apply to B2B marketing. The biggest difference lies in the unbearable heaviness of B2B buyers, meaning the spread in spending is much larger in B2B than in B2C. Heavy B2B buyers are more valuable, and understanding this difference can lead to significant growth and success. The next century will be the B2B century, and it's an enormous opportunity for marketers to focus on. John Lombardo and Peter Weinberg, B2B experts, emphasized that B2B marketing is not just about sales or product but also about marketing, and most laws of growth apply to both B2B and B2C. The past hundred years were the B2C century, but the next hundred years will be the B2B century, and it's time to shift our focus accordingly.

    • B2B marketing differences and similaritiesUnderstanding customer value and longer buying cycles in B2B, along with investing in brand building, are crucial for B2B marketing success. AI technology can help estimate buying cycles and answer industry, role, and seniority questions, making it an essential tool for B2B marketers.

      While B2B and B2C marketing may seem different, they share important similarities. One of the most significant differences is the value of customers and the buying cycle. B2B companies often deal with larger transactions involving multiple buyers and longer buying cycles. Professor Peter Fader, an expert in customer lifetime value, emphasizes that not all customers are equally valuable, and B2B companies need to account for this. AI technology can now help estimate buying cycles and answer questions about the buying process for different industries, roles, and seniorities. Another key takeaway is the importance of brand building in B2B. B2B businesses often focus too much on performance marketing and lead generation at the bottom of the funnel, neglecting top-of-funnel brand building. Research shows that when a B2B buyer enters a category, they often choose the brand that comes to mind first. Therefore, investing in brand building is crucial for B2B businesses to capture the attention of potential buyers before they even enter the market. In summary, understanding the differences in customer value and buying cycles in B2B, as well as investing in brand building, are essential for B2B marketing success. AI technology can provide valuable insights into these areas, making it an essential tool for B2B marketers.

    • B2B marketing strategyInvesting in brand awareness and focusing on customer needs through market orientation and category entry points is a valuable yet underutilized strategy in B2B marketing. Creating compelling and entertaining creative with minimal competition can yield significant returns.

      In B2B marketing, investing in brand awareness and focusing on customer needs through market orientation and category entry points is a valuable yet underutilized strategy. While brand awareness is essential in B2B, most B2B ads are subpar. By contrast, B2C marketing has a high level of competition, requiring great creative to stand out. In B2B, however, there's a significant opportunity to create compelling and entertaining creative with minimal competition. Additionally, the mental and physical availability playbook could be effectively implemented in B2B marketing, which is where the majority of growth in the next century is expected. A less sexy category with fewer competitors could yield significant returns for marketers, as advised by Scott Galloway. Overall, reimagining brand through a customer-centric lens and focusing on category entry points is a game-changing opportunity in B2B marketing.

    • B2B brand assetsIn B2B marketing, creating distinctive brand assets can significantly impact a company's financial success, yet there's a lack of famous and distinctive brand assets in B2B, leading marketers to focus on their creation and growth to elevate their role in the organization

      In the B2B marketing world, there's a common misconception that success comes solely from having a superior product. However, research shows that people make decisions based on familiarity and mental availability, rather than the best product. This product-focused mindset in B2B is a barrier to effective marketing. Instead, marketers should aim to create distinctive brand assets or "fluent devices" that are immediately recognizable and emotionally engaging. These intangible assets, which are often overlooked, can significantly impact a company's financial success. Unfortunately, in B2B, there's a lack of famous and distinctive brand assets, leading to a sea of sameness. By focusing on creating and growing these assets, marketers can demonstrate their value to the finance department and elevate their role in the organization.

    • Brand Consistency and AdaptabilityBrands must be consistent yet adaptable to effectively communicate value to CFOs and build strong, enduring brands through the mere exposure effect

      Marketing and finance are interconnected, and creativity as an intangible asset can be turned into a financial asset. This is a unique opportunity for companies to effectively communicate the value of their marketing efforts to their CFOs. In a world where attention spans are short and brands need to be memorable, distinctive assets are key. Brands must be consistent yet adaptable, with some elements remaining unchanged while others evolve. The finance industry, despite common criticisms, often possesses strong distinctive assets due to their longevity. The more familiar consumers are with a brand, the more they like it, a concept known as the mere exposure effect. Companies that understand and effectively utilize this concept can build strong, enduring brands.

    • Marketing and Finance CollaborationEffective communication and collaboration between marketing and finance can lead to better business outcomes in B2B companies. Marketing teams need to understand the long-term impact of brand consistency and link marketing efforts to financial outcomes, while finance teams need to understand the psychological aspect of brand building.

      Marketing and finance need to work together more closely in B2B businesses. The speaker emphasized the importance of understanding the psychological aspect of brand building and the long-term impact of consistency in marketing. He also highlighted the need for B2B marketers to have a better relationship with finance and be able to link marketing efforts to financial outcomes. The speaker believes that the CMO has a significant impact on a business's future prosperity and that marketing teams and finance teams need to communicate and collaborate more effectively. He also mentioned the potential for innovation in the marketing industry, such as using AI to understand distinctiveness and create unique brand identities. Overall, the key takeaway is that marketing and finance should not be siloed in B2B businesses, and effective communication and collaboration between these departments can lead to better business outcomes.

    • AI in Market ResearchAI models can mimic human behavior and responses, providing quick and cost-effective market research solutions with high accuracy, allowing businesses to make informed decisions and adapt to market trends

      Artificial Intelligence (AI) is revolutionizing market research by providing quick and cost-effective solutions for businesses. Traditional market research methods, such as surveying human respondents, can be expensive and time-consuming, especially in B2B settings. However, AI-driven synthetic market research offers a more efficient alternative. By creating AI models that mimic human behavior and responses, businesses can get similar results to traditional market research in a fraction of the time and cost. This can help companies make informed decisions about category entry points, distinctive assets, segmentation, and targeting, among other marketing activities. The accuracy of synthetic market research has been tested and proven to have a high correlation with human responses. Companies can now conduct qualitative interviews or quantitative surveys against any audience on demand, allowing them to gain valuable insights and adapt quickly to market trends. While some may be skeptical, the benefits of AI in market research are undeniable and could potentially save businesses hundreds of thousands of dollars and months of waiting time.

    • Synthetic data in market researchSynthetic data enables faster and smarter decision-making in market research, allowing companies to ask the right questions and get answers efficiently, and is expected to become the norm in the future, democratizing access to market research for smaller organizations and allowing for research on new questions and audiences.

      Synthetic data is revolutionizing market research by enabling faster and smarter decision-making. With synthetic data, companies can reach the same conclusions as traditional market research but much quicker, leading to a significant compounding benefit. The ability to ask the right questions and get answers efficiently is key, as Picasso famously said, "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. They don't know what questions to ask." In the future, synthetic research is expected to become the norm, with the focus shifting from getting answers quickly to asking the right questions. Additionally, synthetic market research democratizes access to market research for smaller organizations and allows for research on new questions and audiences. The potential applications are vast, from mapping buying journeys for multiple industries in a single afternoon to making small decisions in real-time. Overall, synthetic data is transforming market research and decision-making, putting the customer at the center of marketing strategies more effectively and efficiently than ever before.

    • B2B marketing researchSynthetic personas and AI can provide valuable insights in B2B marketing research, helping marketers understand complex organizational structures, identify key segments, and make evidence-based decisions.

      The use of synthetic personas and AI in marketing research can provide valuable insights that were previously difficult to obtain in B2B marketing. These tools can help marketers understand complex organizational structures, identify key segments, and make evidence-based decisions instead of relying on gut feel. By democratizing access to customer information and enabling more efficient and effective market research, these technologies have the potential to drive more successful marketing strategies and contribute to economic growth. Marketers are encouraged to embrace these tools and become more quantitative and rigorous in their work. The future of marketing lies in data-driven decision-making.

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