Logo
    Search

    Borderline Personality vs. Dependent Personality: Do I Really NEED Someone to Define and Determine Who I Am?

    en-usAugust 29, 2021

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding Dependent Personality DisorderDependent Personality Disorder involves an excessive need for others to make decisions and assume responsibility, rooted in childhood experiences. It's important to provide support and resources to help individuals manage this condition.

      Dependent Personality Disorder (DPD) is a condition characterized by an excessive need for others to assume responsibility and make decisions in one's life. Individuals with DPD struggle with making everyday decisions and expressing disagreement due to a fear of loss of support or approval. They have a difficult time initiating projects and may even do unpleasant things to obtain nurturance and support. The origins of DPD often stem from childhood experiences of sickness, separation anxiety, and overly involved parents. DPD is part of Cluster C personality disorders, which also includes Avoidant and Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorders. Unlike OCD, where individuals have obsessions and compulsions, OCPD is distinct and can be more challenging to manage. DPD individuals may appear overly dependent, but it's essential to understand the underlying causes and provide them with the appropriate support and resources.

    • Distinguishing Dependent and Borderline Personality DisordersBorderlines react with rage, emptiness, and demands, while dependents respond with appeasement and submissiveness. Rorschach test can help assess emotional stability and effectiveness. Treatment varies, with no primary reliance on medication for either.

      Dependent and Borderline Personality Disorders share some similarities, such as an intense fear of abandonment. However, the way they react to abandonment sets them apart. A borderline individual may react with emotional emptiness, rage, and demands, while a dependent individual reacts with increasing appeasement and submissiveness. The Rorschach test can help distinguish between the two by assessing emotional stability and effectiveness. Treatment approaches for both disorders have some similarities but are not the same, as medication is not the primary solution for either.

    • Distinct Differences Between BPD and DPDBPD focuses on discomfort for long-term change through therapy, while DPD emphasizes relationships and care. Dependents can validate narcissists, and narcissists fulfill dependents' needs. Practicing 'no' and developing a stronger voice starts with social periphery.

      While Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and Dependent Personality Disorder (DPD) share some symptoms, they have distinct differences. BPD is often treated through therapy, focusing on getting individuals out of their comfort zones to experience necessary discomfort for long-term change. DPD, on the other hand, is a therapy issue that emphasizes the need for relationships and feeling taken care of. The discomfort experienced by individuals with these disorders can be significant. An intriguing pairing for therapeutic intervention could be a narcissist and a dependent, as the dependent provides validation and care for the narcissist, while the narcissist fulfills the dependent's need for validation. To practice saying "no" and developing a stronger voice, individuals with these disorders should start with people on their social periphery instead of their closest relationships. This process can be uncomfortable but is essential for growth.

    • Recognizing Our Choices: Language and Mindset MatterUnderstanding the impact of 'have to' vs 'want to' language on relationships and personal growth. Recognizing and acknowledging uncomfortable choices is a first step towards change.

      Our language and mindset play a significant role in our relationships and personal growth, particularly for individuals with borderline and independent personalities. The use of words like "have to" instead of "want to" can create unnecessary pressure and misunderstandings. It's essential to recognize and become aware of our choices, even if we don't like them, as the first step towards change. This process is similar to learning a new language and requires patience and self-awareness. Remember, no one makes us do anything, and our choices are ours alone. When faced with requests or situations that make us uncomfortable, simply recognizing and acknowledging them is a crucial first step towards growth.

    • Understanding Interpersonal Relationships in Dependent and Borderline Personality DisordersBoth Dependent and Borderline Personality Disorders involve intense fear of abandonment, require action and not just therapy, and have distinct irrational beliefs leading to distress. Accurate diagnosis and treatment require professional evaluation.

      Understanding and treating both Dependent Personality Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder requires a deep dive into interpersonal relationships. Both disorders involve intense fear of abandonment, although the manifestation and expression may differ. The disorders' irrational beliefs can be catastrophic, leading to significant distress. These disorders require action and not just therapy, as progress is made in daily life. The testing process can help distinguish between different presentations of these disorders, and with dedicated, long-term therapy, recovery is possible for both. It's important to remember that accurate diagnosis and treatment require professional evaluation and avoiding self-diagnosis from the internet.

    • Understanding DPD and BPD treatmentApproach treatment with care, focus on building confidence, and gradually expand independence for individuals with DPD or BPD, while helping them develop distress tolerance and live more authentic lives.

      When working with individuals diagnosed with Dependent Personality Disorder (DPD) or Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), it's essential to approach treatment with care and understanding. These disorders involve deeply ingrained mindsets about self, others, and the world. For DPD, individuals may believe they are dependent and require others to take care of them, viewing the world as a dangerous place. Treatment should begin with simple, low-emotionality tasks to help individuals build confidence and gradually expand their independence. It's crucial not to set them up for failure by demanding too much too soon. DPD and BPD share similarities, including a fear of abandonment. Both disorders can result in individuals living inauthentic lives, easily manipulated by others, and suffering from fragile self-confidence. The goal is to help these individuals expand their "space" of independence, making it bigger and bigger, allowing them to develop distress tolerance and live more authentic lives.

    • Recognizing the Differences Between Borderline Personality Disorder and DependencyBoth conditions involve toxic relationships, but borderline personality disorder is characterized by instability, rage, and intensity, while dependency is marked by excessive reliance on others. Effective treatment and growth require individuals to develop independence and learn to value their own thoughts, feelings, and actions over others' opinions.

      Understanding the difference between borderline personality disorder and dependency is crucial for effective treatment and growth. Both conditions involve toxic relationships, but borderline personality disorder is characterized by instability, rage, and intensity, while dependency is marked by excessive reliance on others. Both disorders are treatable and curable, but require individuals to develop independence and learn to value their own thoughts, feelings, and actions over others' opinions. By recognizing the equal amount of control and responsibility we have in our relationships, we can begin to break free from the psychological bondage that keeps us trapped in these patterns. The ultimate goal is not to become arrogant or callous, but to regain control of our lives and live according to our own terms. Remember, change only occurs when we're uncomfortable with our current situation, and it all starts with changing our thoughts.

    • Understanding Dependency vs Borderline Personality DisordersDependency is an unhealthy reliance on substances or people leading to compulsive behavior and negative consequences, while Borderline Personality Disorder is a mental health condition with instability in emotions, relationships, and self-image. Seek appropriate treatment and support based on accurate information and open dialogue.

      While dependency and borderline personality disorders share some similarities, they are distinct conditions. Dependency refers to an unhealthy reliance on substances or people, often leading to compulsive behavior and negative consequences. Borderline personality disorder, on the other hand, is a mental health condition characterized by instability in emotions, relationships, and self-image. It's important to understand the differences between these conditions to seek appropriate treatment and support. The speaker encourages listeners to reach out with questions and suggestions for future podcast topics, and offers resources for those seeking evaluation or treatment. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of accurate information and open dialogue about mental health conditions.

    Related Episodes

    Do You Know Someone With Borderline-Ish Personality Disorder?

    Do You Know Someone With Borderline-Ish Personality Disorder?

    You know that person in your life who drives you nuts but you can’t really pinpoint why? That person who brings out the worst in you no matter how many times you promise yourself you’ll stay cool and collected?

    If this sounds painfully familiar, you may be dealing with someone with Borderline Personality Disorder. You can find out more about the DSM-5 criteria for this diagnosis hereBut what if you read the list of symptoms for BPD and realize your “person” doesn’t hit all the markers for it?

    That’s why I’m suggesting there’s a real diagnosis of Borderline-ish Personality Disorder. A Borderline-ish Person (BIP) has some (or many) of the markers of the diagnosis, but just not all the DSM purports they should have. 

    Join me as I talk (from personal AND professional experience) about what it means to have a BIP in your life. And, no, you're not crazy.

    31. Eat My Dick and Leave Me Alone!

    31. Eat My Dick and Leave Me Alone!

    It’s a double Zach dream ‘sode featuring a date night that gets extra saucy when Zach spills Vindaloo on the Italian leather seats of some rich guy’s Corvette, and a sweet little dream about a negligent doctor who overlooks Zachs high blood pressure in favor of a big, exciting Sumo Wrestler in the waiting room. And did you know some octopuses detach their dicks and throw them at predators like a little torpedo?

    About Dream Bible:

    Dream Bible is a free online A to Z dream dictionary dedicated to helping people understand the meaning of their dreams. Unlike other dream interpretation websites or books we extensively research dream symbols by interviewing people about the events occurring in their lives at the time of their dreams.  Inspired by the work of Gillian Holloway Ph.D, we are using a database of over 350,000 dream reports to create the world's most practical dream dictionary based on the waking life experiences of regular people.

    http://www.dreambible.com/

    Dream Bible entries used in this episode:

    https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=red

    https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=blue

    https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=doctor

    https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=Sumo+Wrestler

    https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=Blood+Pressure

    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejungandtherestlesspod/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thejungandtherestlesspod

    Check out our website for episode transcripts: https://thejungandtherestlesspodcast.com/

    Submit your dreams for interpretation to thejungandtherestlesspod@gmail.com

    EP6: A Prefab Fantasy

    EP6: A Prefab Fantasy

    Fantasy is a big part of love addiction; it's what keeps us hooked in our co-addicted relationships as we try to make a partner into who we want them to be instead of accepting the reality of who they are.

    In this episode, Jodi discusses the role of fantasy in love addiction, how it 'works', and how it all begins in childhood as a way to escape.

    Music by JD Pendley