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    Breaking up Apple, Google, Amazon, and Facebook

    enMarch 12, 2019

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    • AI-powered presentations, travel booking, scooters, and newsCanva saves time with AI-presentations, Viator simplifies travel booking, scooters offer quick transport, The VergeCast delivers news and entertainment

      Technology is making our lives easier and more convenient in various aspects. Canva's AI-powered presentations help save time and customize content for work presentations. Viator offers a one-stop solution for booking travel experiences with free cancellation and customer support. Scooters, though controversial, represent the future of transportation for some, offering a fun and quick way to get around. The VergeCast brings the latest news and entertainment through interviews and live events, keeping audiences engaged and informed. Overall, these tools and platforms are designed to make our daily tasks more efficient and enjoyable.

    • Urban Transportation: Scooters vs. BicyclesCompetition and hostility between scooter and bicycle users create chaotic urban transportation, with unsustainable business models and a need for clear norms.

      The current state of transportation in cities, specifically regarding the use of scooters and bicycles, is in a chaotic phase with no clear norms or respect for other modes of transportation. The speaker expresses a sense of competition and even hostility between scooter users and bicyclists, which he refers to as the "law of transportative righteousness." He also discusses the business model of scooter companies, suggesting that their focus on competition and market dominance is unsustainable and potentially harmful. Additionally, he shares his personal preference for Lime Scooters due to their bright green speedometer. The speaker also mentions the 10th anniversary of the app Four Square and the real-time map feature, which shows the concentration of users in Austin during South by Southwest. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities and challenges of urban transportation and the ongoing evolution of technology in this realm.

    • Tech Companies Use Consumer Data for Personalized Experiences and Regulators Explore Privacy and Market Power ConcernsPoliticians discussed potential regulations on data trading and market dominance at SXSW, while tech companies use data for personalized experiences. Four Square uses location data for recommendations, Google Maps offers real-time venue popularity info. Warren proposed preventing companies from owning both platform and selling on it.

      Technology companies continue to collect and use consumer data to personalize user experiences, while regulators explore ways to address concerns around privacy and market power. Four Square, for instance, uses location data to provide users with relevant recommendations, while Google Maps offers real-time information on venue popularity. Meanwhile, at South by Southwest, politicians like Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren discussed potential regulations on data trading and market dominance, respectively. Warren's proposal would prevent companies like Amazon, Google, and Facebook from owning both the platform and participating in it as a seller. These discussions reflect the ongoing tension between the benefits of data-driven innovation and the need for privacy and fair competition.

    • Growing sentiment to break up tech giantsRegulators and public push for breaking up large tech companies like Apple, Facebook, and Amazon. Companies respond by focusing on privacy and consolidating services to stay competitive and avoid regulation.

      According to the discussion, there is a growing sentiment among regulators and some sectors of the public to break up large tech companies, including Apple, Facebook, Amazon, and other tech giants. Elizabeth Warren, for instance, has proposed a plan to break up companies making over $25 billion a year. Companies like Facebook are reportedly responding by focusing on privacy and consolidating their services, such as Instagram and WhatsApp, to stay competitive and avoid regulation. Some experts believe that these companies are already seeing a decline in growth and are looking for new areas to expand, such as private messaging. The conversation also touched on the potential motivations for these companies to consolidate and the potential implications of such consolidation for competition and consumer privacy.

    • Large dating app companies raise concerns about privacy and competitionTwo dominant companies, Match Group and Facebook, control much of the dating app market, raising concerns about privacy and competition. Access to user data and potential misuse are significant issues.

      The dominance of a few large companies, such as Match Group and Facebook, in the dating app market raises concerns about privacy and competition. Match Group, which owns several popular dating apps including Tinder, has access to a vast amount of personal data from users. This data can include sensitive information like sexual orientation and location. The potential for misuse of this data is significant, and it's unclear what kind of information sharing occurs between Match's various apps. With Facebook entering the dating app market, we may see two monopolies competing against each other. The question is, are these companies buying up competitors to protect their existing revenue streams or to find the next big thing? The history of social media suggests that no single platform lasts forever, and dating apps may follow the same trend. As such, companies may need to constantly acquire new apps or technologies to stay relevant. However, this consolidation of power can limit innovation and consumer choice. It's essential to have a diverse range of companies in the market to ensure healthy competition and protect user privacy.

    • Expanding Beyond Dating: Bumble's Lifestyle Brand Aspiration and Google's Essential Utilities vs Profitable ServicesBumble aims to become a lifestyle brand, while Google's essential utilities face potential breakups and legal battles over profitable services

      The dating app industry is focused on helping users find connections, but the ultimate goal for these companies is to help users find connections that lead to them no longer needing the app. Companies like Bumble are trying to expand their offerings beyond dating to become lifestyle brands. Meanwhile, when it comes to tech giants like Google, the conversation around regulation and potential breakups raises questions about what parts of these companies' offerings are essential utilities versus profitable services. For instance, Google's search engine is a utility, but its ads and Google Play network are where the company makes most of its money. Breaking up these parts of Google could lead to complex legal battles and potential harm to consumers. Ultimately, while there are valid concerns about the power and influence of tech giants, it's important to consider the potential consequences of regulation and breakups.

    • Discussing the impact of tech monopolies on competition and innovationBreaking up tech giants could lead to better consumer choices and diverse offerings, preventing monopolies from stifling innovation and competition.

      Monopolies in tech markets, such as Google's dominance in search engines or Apple's control over the iOS app store, can limit competition and innovation. The discussion suggests that breaking up these tech giants could lead to better consumer choices and more diverse offerings. For instance, if Google and the company running the ad marketplace were separate entities, they could potentially license their services to each other. Similarly, splitting up Apple's iOS app store from the company could prevent Apple from favoring its own apps and services over competitors. This could result in a more level playing field for entrepreneurs and consumers alike. The history of AT&T's monopoly and subsequent breakup serves as an example of this phenomenon. However, it's important to consider potential unintended consequences, such as Microsoft and Sony not being able to make first-party video games for their consoles if this rule were applied to them. Ultimately, the goal is to encourage competition and prevent monopolies from stifling innovation and consumer choice.

    • Apple's control over App Store distribution harms users and developersApple's monopoly on App Store distribution imposes lock-in harms, limiting competition and forcing companies to grow their brands to bypass Apple's 30% cut from sales. Regulatory scrutiny and fair competition solutions are needed.

      The App Store's monopoly on distribution in Apple's ecosystem imposes significant lock-in harms on users and developers. These harms are not always visible, but they limit competition and force companies to grow their brands to the point where they can ask users to sign up on their websites instead. Developers, like Spotify, are particularly frustrated with Apple's 30% cut from App Store sales. However, the discussion also touched upon seemingly petty issues like podcasts not pausing on CarPlay. The real issue is that Apple's control over the App Store distribution channel gives it an unfair advantage, making it difficult for competitors to thrive. This situation calls for regulatory scrutiny and potential solutions to promote fair competition.

    • Regulating Large Tech Companies: Challenges and ComplexitiesThe conversation explored the complications of regulating large tech companies like Amazon, including defining what constitutes a platform, the potential implications of breaking up companies, and the challenges of applying the same rules fairly to all companies.

      During the discussion, it was explored how Elizabeth Warren's plan to break up large tech companies like Amazon, and the complications and potential outcomes of such an action. While some believe in the capitalist approach of introducing more competition, others suggest individual antitrust investigations. However, the confusion lies in defining what constitutes a platform and how to apply the same rule to all companies fairly. Amazon's business model, which relies on having various subsidiaries as customers for its modular components, adds to the complexity. Additionally, Jeff Bezos' ability to manipulate revenue to avoid the threshold for regulation is a concern. The potential implications of this level of scrutiny for most companies, including the additional burden of neutrality standards, was also discussed. Overall, the conversation highlighted the challenges and complexities involved in regulating large tech companies.

    • Breaking up tech companies for regulatory concernsThe debate over breaking up tech companies for regulatory reasons is ongoing, with some seeing it as a solution to consumer harm and others viewing it as an opportunity for new competitors. The discussion may not be a serious proposal, but rather a way to generate conversation and debate around the role and power of tech companies.

      The idea of breaking up tech companies as a solution to regulatory concerns and consumer harm is a topic that sparks intense debate. Some argue that it would reduce the need for regulation, while others see it as an opportunity for new competitors to emerge. However, it's important to note that this discussion may not be a serious proposal, but rather a way to generate conversation and debate around the role and power of tech companies. For instance, during a podcast, the hosts discussed the potential of breaking up companies like Microsoft, Comcast, AT&T, Salesforce, Amazon, Google, Facebook, and even smaller entities like Nest and Periscope. While some saw consumer harm in the mergers and acquisitions, others believed that the companies were simply acting in their own best interests. Ultimately, the debate highlights the complexity of regulating tech companies and the importance of considering the potential consequences of any regulatory action.

    • Streaming platforms' dominance in music and podcasting raises concernsStreaming platforms' exclusive content could disadvantage independent creators, potentially leading to a monopolistic market, fewer opportunities for creators to monetize content, and compromising the open nature of podcasting.

      The dominance of streaming platforms like Spotify in the music industry and their increasing involvement in podcasting raises concerns about potential market consolidation and the impact on creators. While Spotify distributes music and podcasts, their incentive to promote their own exclusive content could disadvantage independent creators and lead to a monopolistic market. This could result in fewer opportunities for creators to monetize their content and potentially drive bad actors onto the platform. The open nature of podcasting, which allows creators to reach audiences through various platforms and monetize their content independently, could be compromised if streaming platforms gain more control over the market.

    • The impact of streaming platforms on the podcast industry and potential negative consequencesStreaming platforms like Spotify could promote harmful content through algorithms, requiring regulation or break-up to prevent negative outcomes in the podcast industry

      The rise of streaming platforms like Spotify in the podcast industry could lead to negative outcomes similar to those seen on YouTube and Facebook, such as the promotion of harmful content through algorithms. The question then becomes whether the solution is to break up these companies or regulate them. The podcast industry currently lacks a viral distribution mechanism, but this could lead to problems as users are recommended controversial content based on their listening habits. Companies like Spotify, which primarily make money through renting content they don't own, may turn to podcasts to stay competitive. However, it's important for these companies to have a plan for addressing the potential negative consequences of their algorithms. As Matt Panzerino at TechCrunch argues, a healthy market requires tolerated failure, and businesses that fail should do so naturally rather than being propped up by their parent companies.

    • Europe's competition standard vs US regulations for tech companiesEurope's competition standard, which focuses on overall market health, may be more effective than US regulations in addressing monopolistic practices by tech companies like Facebook and Apple, whose products are often free or very cheap.

      The current antitrust regulations in the US, which focus on consumer harm and price increases, are not effective in regulating tech companies like Facebook and Apple, whose products are effectively free or very cheap. This was discussed during a conversation at an event, where it was noted that Europe's competition standard, which considers the overall level of competition in a market, might be a better approach. The conversation also touched upon the history of antitrust laws and how their interpretation has evolved over time. Ultimately, it was suggested that a change in interpretation or the addition of new laws could help address the issue. Warren, a politician mentioned in the conversation, was quoted as prioritizing people over specific regulations.

    • Regulatory Approaches to Tech Companies: US vs EUThe US and EU have different regulatory approaches to tech companies, with the US focusing on prices and the EU on competition. Potential future issues include privacy concerns and botnet risks.

      The regulatory approach to tech companies, particularly regarding antitrust laws, varies greatly between the US and EU. In the US, regulations have historically focused on prices, but with the shift to free services, this enforcement mechanism has broken down. In contrast, the EU is more concerned with competition and has taken action against Google to unbundle Google Play from Android. Regarding Apple's integration of hardware and software, while some argue it could lead to a monopoly, others believe it's beneficial as long as there's enough competition in the market. Looking ahead, potential issues in five years may include privacy concerns with always-on cameras and encrypted messengers, as well as the risk of botnets taking control of self-driving cars. Ultimately, it's crucial to have open conversations about these issues and find a balance between innovation and privacy concerns.

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    [REPLAY] Modern Monopolies: What It Takes to Dominate the 21st Century Economy, which explores the platform business model (Uber, Airbnb, Github).  Alex is also the founder and CEO of Applico, a company that he started in his dorm room that is since grown into a huge enterprise that helps startups and Fortune 500 innovate with platforms.  Alex and I talk about history and future of businesses and different types of business models.  There’s a lot in here for investors, entrepreneurs, and historians.  Please enjoy! For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag Books Referenced Modern Monopolies: What It Takes to Dominate the 21st Century Economy The Systems Bible: The Beginner's Guide to Systems Large and Small The Master Switch: The Rise and Fall of Information Empires Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future   Links Referenced Failed Color App Applico   Show Notes 2:39  – (first question) – Exploring the history of business models from linear to platform. 5:46 – A look at the share of overall business platform companies have taken over             7:06 - Modern Monopolies: What It Takes to Dominate the 21st Century Economy 7:48 – The potential for platform businesses over the next 20 years 9:18 – Detailing the difference between a linear and a platform business 12:08 – Exploring transaction costs and core transactions across different business models 19:49 – Is the platform business model good for investors and VC’s since so many can get crushed when there’s a sole victor, or is it just for the founders and entrepreneurs.  24:35 – How the self-driving car is going to deliver more opportunity for consumer consumption 27:15 – Untapped supplies as the opportunity for new platforms and where we could see new openings 30:24 – How consolidated will things become across all platforms 33:16 – How do platform companies create a moat to keep others from replicating their business strategy 37:03 – Are there platform strategies that specifically don’t work             37:40 - Failed Color App 38:45 – Why complex systems typically don’t scale up and you should think small and easy to get started             38:47 – The Systems Bible: The Beginner's Guide to Systems Large and Small 40:02 – How the origin of so many larger companies started out small and localized, and why it makes investors more comfortable 41:37 – How Alibaba had to tweak their business model to accommodate the Chinese market 44:07 – Why are the modern monopolies better for consumers 47:52 – Exploring platforms that are asset heavy 49:00 – What do you look for as a VC to determine 52:05 – Alex’s take on whether a platform based company like Uber should be more asset heavy 54:31 – Exploring some lesser known platform businesses that Alex finds interesting 56:18 – If there is a demand in the secondary markets for a product, why don’t the primary suppliers simply raise their prices 57:03 – What Alex’s portfolio of platform-based businesses would look like 58:48 – A couple of most influential books Alex has read             59:12 – The Master Switch: The Rise and Fall of Information Empires             59:38 – Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future and other Peter Thiel books 59:53 – Looking at Applico, how it started and how it become so focused on the platform business model 1:03:56 - Most memorable day for Alex  1:05:13 – Kindest person to Alex in his life 1:06:10 – What platform opportunities could exist in the financial world Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

    The Magnificent Seven: What if Big Tech Starts to Shrink?

    The Magnificent Seven: What if Big Tech Starts to Shrink?

    The “Magnificent Seven” stocks have reigned supreme this year, accounting for almost all of the S&P 500’s returns. But what if these titans of tech begin to stumble? And in today’s Dumb Question of the Week: How long do companies last?

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    4 Monopolies Trading at Reasonable Prices

    4 Monopolies Trading at Reasonable Prices
    Investing doesn’t have to be complicated. Buy a business with a wide moat and hold it for a really long time. Mary Long talks with Ron Gross about: - How to tell if a business is a monopoly - Laser-focused companies that have fended off competition - Monopolies in railroads, trash, and surgical robots Companies discussed: MSFT, WDFC, META, GOOG, GOOGL, DUK, UNP, WM Host: Mary Long Guest: Ron Gross Producer: Ricky Mulvey Engineer: Dan Boyd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices