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    BTC193: The Financialization of Bitcoin Blockspace w/ Bob Burnett (Bitcoin Podcast)

    enJuly 31, 2024
    What is replacing subsidies as revenue for miners?
    Who is noted for considering the financialization of mining?
    What may corporations and governments seek to secure?
    What concerns exist regarding Bitcoin's hash rate decentralization?
    How could Bitcoin impact AI and data centers globally?

    Podcast Summary

    • Mining revenue shiftIn the next 15 years, fees are expected to surpass subsidies as the primary source of revenue for miners, introducing significant volatility due to unpredictable fees per block, leading to potential financialization and strategic importance of securing block space.

      The mining industry's reliance on subsidies is decreasing, and within the next 15 years, fees are expected to surpass subsidies as the primary source of revenue for miners. This shift towards fee-dependent mining introduces significant volatility due to the unpredictability of fees per block. Miners, including expert Bob Burnett, are starting to consider the financialization of mining and the evolving role of block space in the marketplace. As fees become more significant, corporations and even governments may find it strategically important to secure block space. This trend highlights the importance of looking beyond the traditional narrative of energy companies and miners and recognizing the financial implications of mining.

    • Bitcoin block space commoditizationMiners may sell future block space to secure revenue and users may reserve block space for important transactions, leading to a potential commoditization of block space and changes to accounting practices and deal-making.

      As Bitcoin's transaction fees continue to rise and become more volatile, both miners and users will need to adapt to secure a stable revenue stream and ensure the availability of block space for their transactions. Miners may begin selling future block space to secure revenue, while users, particularly businesses, may start reserving block space for important transactions during high-demand periods. This could lead to a commoditization of block space, with miners acting as producers and users as consumers. This trend could potentially result in significant changes to accounting practices and deal-making in the future. The comparison to farming and selling future harvests highlights the potential for miners to lock in future revenue by selling block space in advance.

    • Bitcoin's financializationThe financialization of Bitcoin brings opportunities for derivatives, market makers, and insurances, but challenges include potential centralization of hash rate and the need for small miners to maintain a decentralized network.

      The blockchain industry, specifically Bitcoin, is evolving towards a more sophisticated and financialized infrastructure. This means that consumers and suppliers will need to have certainty and delivery in their contracts, similar to traditional farming or real estate transactions. The emergence of derivatives, market makers, and insurances are expected to become a natural part of this system. However, there are concerns about the potential centralization of hash rate and the impact it may have on the decentralized nature of Bitcoin. It's important for small and medium-sized miners to continue contributing to the network to maintain a decentralized hash rate distribution. The financialization of Bitcoin is inevitable due to the requirements of large companies and financial institutions, and it's essential for the global economy's adoption of Bitcoin. Overall, this evolution will bring both opportunities and challenges to the industry.

    • Bitcoin blocks controlControl of Bitcoin blocks by large entities could lead to conflicts and power struggles, impacting smaller miners and the financial services industry

      While Bitcoin mining still has small players contributing to the network, the dominance of large miners could potentially lead to issues if they control a significant portion of the blocks. This could result in smaller miners being ignored, creating a cartel-like situation. However, if larger entities like energy companies and financial services firms gain control of a significant number of blocks, the consequences could be more severe as Bitcoin becomes increasingly important as a base layer for global finance. Bitcoin's role as infrastructure rather than just a commodity with rewards and fees could lead to wars, both literal and virtual, for control of these blocks. While the relationship between Bitcoin mining and energy companies is important for miners, it is not existential for energy companies. Conversely, for financial services companies and governments, access to Bitcoin's blockchain is existential, making control of the blocks a potential source of significant power and conflict.

    • Economic value of transactionsMiners prioritize transactions that contribute to the stability and growth of the network, not just those with the highest fees, as they have a vested interest in the overall health and success of the blockchain ecosystem

      The economic value of transactions within a block, especially for the miner, can be significant. Using the example of a keiretsu, a business network in Japan, Mitsui owned parts of various companies, and each company owned a small piece of the others. This created a mutually beneficial economy where companies relied on each other for business, leading to preferential treatment and long-term relationships. Similarly, in the context of Bitcoin mining, a miner may prioritize transactions with lower fees, even if other transactions offer higher fees, because they have a vested interest in the overall health and success of the network. The time value of these transactions can be substantial, and miners may prefer to prioritize transactions that contribute to the stability and growth of the network. Therefore, it's essential to consider the broader economic value of transactions within the blockchain ecosystem, not just the subsidy or fees associated with mining. This perspective can lead to a deeper understanding of the incentives and motivations driving the actions of miners and other network participants.

    • Shopify, BitcoinShopify is a leading commerce platform for businesses to sell online and in-person. Bitcoin's potential impact on businesses is gaining attention, with notable figures investing and political landscape shifting. Shopify offers a $1 trial for further exploration.

      Shopify is a comprehensive global commerce platform that offers businesses tools to sell online and in-person, with a commitment to helping businesses grow. Shopify's checkout system is known for converting browsers into buyers, making it an attractive option for entrepreneurs at any stage. The discussion also touched on the evolving landscape of Bitcoin and its potential impact on businesses, with notable figures like Michael Dell showing interest. Multi-billionaires are already investing in Bitcoin and other related ventures, and the political landscape is starting to shift in its favor. The emergence of simplified accelerators and specialized service providers in the Bitcoin mining industry is part of the evolution, but may not be meaningful in the long run. Overall, the conversation highlights the growing significance of Shopify and Bitcoin in the business world. To explore Shopify's offerings further, sign up for a $1 per month trial period at Shopify.com/WSB.

    • Political landscape towards BitcoinRumors of Trump considering Bitcoin for strategic reserve and multiple senators' interest in Bitcoin could lead to other countries following suit, potentially impacting global implications. Bitcoin's potential role in powering AI and data centers, especially in countries lacking infrastructure, is emerging as a critical consideration due to high costs.

      The political landscape towards Bitcoin is shifting rapidly in the United States, with multiple senators expressing interest and even rumors of Trump considering it for the strategic reserve. This could have significant global implications as other countries may follow suit. Bitcoin's potential role in powering AI and data centers, especially in countries lacking infrastructure, is also emerging as a critical consideration. The high costs associated with setting up and maintaining these operations make Bitcoin a potential solution. However, the extent of Bitcoin's importance in this context may depend on the specific country and its resources.

    • Bitcoin mining decentralizationAs AI advances, Bitcoin mining may become more decentralized to avoid government control, but it's crucial to prevent cartels from controlling the hash rate and creating longer chains, promoting hash rate diversity through smaller, privately-held mining operations and decentralized technologies.

      As AI becomes more advanced and energy-intensive, it may push Bitcoin mining into secondary territories, making it less centralized and subject to government control. This decentralization is crucial for maintaining Bitcoin's original mission as a decentralized, uncensored currency. However, it's essential to be aware of potential threats, such as cartels controlling the hash rate and creating longer chains that nodes might follow. To avoid this, promoting hash rate diversity through smaller, privately-held mining operations and decentralized technologies is crucial. By doing so, we can ensure the long-term integrity and execution of Bitcoin's decentralized vision.

    • ASIC project, Verifiable random number projectBob from barefootmining.com is working on an ASIC project with M fibers, aiming for energy efficiency below 10 joules per terahash. He also has a verifiable random number project in beta, gaining traction with an S19 miner in the background.

      Bob from barefootmining.com shared exciting updates on his ongoing projects during his recent appearance on the podcast. Firstly, the ASIC project, led by M fibers, is progressing well with a significant investment partner from the semiconductor industry. The team is confident in designing chips at the 2nm level and aims to bring energy efficiency below 10 joules per terahash. Secondly, Bob's verifiable random number project, accessible at chaosengine.com, is still in beta but gaining traction. This project includes an S19 miner in the background, and there are further developments to explore. For listeners who want more context on these intriguing topics, a link to their first conversation will be provided in the show notes. Overall, Bob's insights offer valuable perspectives on the mining industry and its ongoing advancements.

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    BTC197: What are Bitcoin Fedimints w/ Obi Nwosu and Renata Rodrigues  (Bitcoin Podcast)
    In this episode, we dive into the challenges of Bitcoin payments and scaling, and how Fedi is addressing these issues. Obi Nwosu explains the concept of Fediments and guardians, while Renata Rodrigues shares her on-the-ground experiences in Africa, discussing the real-world impact of Fedi on communities. We also explore the tools within the Fedi app that empower users to earn sats and the potential of Fedi to unlock talent trapped by financial repression. Additionally, Obi and Renata discuss Fedi’s move towards open-source, social backup mechanisms, and their partnership with Save the Children. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 03:54 - The major problem that Fediments solve for Bitcoin payments and scaling. 04:31 - How guardians function within the Fedi ecosystem and the role they play in protecting user privacy. 05:43 - The concept of the Fedi Order and how it supports the Fedi ecosystem. 15:33 - Insights from Renata Rodrigues on the conversations happening in Africa around Bitcoin adoption. 18:43 - Obi Nwosu's perspective on how financial repression is trapping talent globally and how Fedi can help unlock it. 28:30 - How vendors are responding to incorporating Fedi into their stores. 30:01 - The tools inside the Fedi app, known as Fedi Mods, that enable people to earn sats. 32:17 - The importance of social backup and stable channels within the Fedi ecosystem. 43:35 - Fedi’s partnership with Save the Children and how it is making a difference. 46:52 - How to start your own Fedimint and the timeline for getting set up. 51:00 - Fedi's transition towards becoming open source and what it means for the future. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Watch the Fedi Live Event at Fedi.xyz. You can follow Fedi on X and Nostr and join the Fedi Telegram community here. Download the Fedi App. Connect with Developers on Fedimint and Discord here. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: River Toyota Range Rover Vacasa AT&T The Bitcoin Way USPS American Express Onramp Found SimpleMining Public Shopify Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

    TIP655: Hustle, Trust, and Cash Flow: Nike’s Genesis w/ Kyle Grieve

    TIP655: Hustle, Trust, and Cash Flow: Nike’s Genesis w/ Kyle Grieve
    On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve discusses a wonderfully well-written autobiography, “Shoe Dog” by Phil Knight, the founder of Nike. He discusses the importance of identifying and pursuing true happiness while ensuring a stable income as a fallback, the value of hustle, the importance of trust with your suppliers, why focus is so vital to business success, the hidden downsides of issuing equity, the importance of maintaining cash reserves, the complexities of growing a business, and a whole lot more! IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:30 - The importance of being aware of what will make you happy in life, and pursuing it with deep focus 07:37 - Why happiness can't be fulfilled based purely on increased earnings power 09:42 - Why hustle and unconventionality is so important to getting a nascent business off of the ground 15:36 - The difficulties of aligning incentives between lenders and borrowers in fast-growing businesses 23:29 - The importance of creating an enemy in business to help motivate executives to continue innovating and improving 25:31 - Why focused business leaders are so important, and why you want to avoid CEOs doing excessive side projects 28:56 - The aspects of cloning Phil took to increase exposure for the Nike brand 32:49 - Why maintaining positive cash balances is so important to the health of a business 47:23 - Why public businesses use dual share structures so management can maintain control 47:58 - Why IPO's have misaligned incentives for investors And so much more! Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Buy Shoe Dog here. Follow Kyle on Twitter and LinkedIn. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: River Toyota Range Rover Vacasa AT&T The Bitcoin Way Public American Express Onramp SimpleMining Fundrise Shopify USPS HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm