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    Businesses, Governments Clash Over How To Tackle Climate Change

    en-usJuly 10, 2023

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    • Corporations and ESG Investing Face Political OppositionPoliticians criticize ESG investing as a distraction from economic growth while corporations and investors push for sustainability

      As the effects of climate change become more prominent, big corporations are prioritizing environmental initiatives to meet customer demands, appease investors, and reduce costs. However, their efforts don't always sit well with local and state politicians, who view it as a distraction from maximizing profits and argue against rewarding such activities through investment. This opposition is reflected in the growing debate around Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) investing. Corporations and investors are pushing for sustainability, while some politicians criticize the focus on ESG as a distraction from economic growth. The NPR Politics Podcast discussed these conflicting perspectives, highlighting the complexities of balancing environmental concerns with economic interests.

    • ESG Factors and Investing: Balancing Environmental Protection and Economic GrowthESG investing is growing in importance as investors seek long-term financial gains and evaluate a company's sustainability through environmental, social, and governance factors. However, the prioritization of environmental protection versus short-term economic growth is politicized, with a significant divide between Democrats and Republicans.

      Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) factors are becoming increasingly important for investors as they seek to evaluate a company's sustainability and potential for long-term financial gains. ESG refers to environmental, social, and governance issues, with investors looking at a company's efforts to reduce emissions, promote diversity, and ensure good corporate governance. The debate around ESG investing recently came to the forefront when politicians attempted to restrict investment firms from considering ESG factors, but the move was ultimately vetoed. The divide between prioritizing environmental protection and short-term economic growth is becoming increasingly politicized, with a significant gap between Democrats and Republicans on this issue. The gap has widened in recent years, likely due to the proliferation of social media and cable news, which has allowed people to consume news that aligns with their views. Companies are also facing pressure to prioritize sustainability, but it remains to be seen whether consumers are willing to pay the premium for greener products. At the state and local level, lawmakers are introducing legislation that could impact ESG investing, adding another layer of complexity to the issue.

    • Political Pressure on Large Investment Firms for ESG PracticesPolitical pressure on large investment firms for ESG practices is causing some pullback, but companies like Nucor continue to prioritize environmentally friendly practices, despite opposition.

      States and local officials are targeting large investment firms, such as BlackRock, for their emphasis on environmental, social, and governance (ESG) practices, rather than individual manufacturers. This has led to some pullback in public discussions about ESG and investment decisions, as well as insurance companies leaving groups focused on reducing emissions. However, it's unclear if this is changing the behavior of these firms. Meanwhile, companies like Nucor in South Carolina are pushing forward with more environmentally friendly practices, despite facing political opposition. Nucor's executive vice president, Greg Murphy, gave insights into the challenges and benefits of implementing these changes at their steel mill.

    • Companies investing in greener steel productionCompanies are investing in lower carbon steel production as a hedge against future regulation and to meet the demands of younger generations prioritizing ESG issues, driven by both business opportunities and the need to address climate change.

      Companies like Nucor recognize the need for steel in a world impacted by climate change and are making strategic bets on producing greener steel to mitigate risks and appeal to customers. This approach is driven by both business opportunities and the need to address climate change as an existential issue. Despite political challenges, particularly in Republican-leaning states, these companies are investing in lower carbon steel production as a hedge against future regulation and to meet the demands of younger generations who prioritize Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) issues. The economic incentives of appealing to this demographic are significant, making it harder for anti-ESG forces to push back effectively.

    • Impact of Targeting Large Investment FirmsTargeting large investment firms like BlackRock can have a bigger impact on political objectives due to their economic influence, but it can be difficult to criticize them due to local employment and community contributions.

      Targeting large investment firms like BlackRock, which have widespread economic influence, can have a more significant impact on political objectives compared to going after individual companies. However, it can be challenging to criticize a company that employs local residents and contributes to the community. Michael Copley reported on this topic, and the discussion also touched on the challenges politicians face when targeting companies in their own backyards due to employment and economic considerations. The NPR Politics Podcast then concluded with sponsor messages.

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