Logo

    Cheating In A Video Game

    enJuly 25, 2024
    What are the ethical implications of cheating in games?
    How does cheating differ between competitive and single-player games?
    Why do some view game modifications as self-expression?
    What impact does technology have on creativity in music?
    What nostalgic memories did the speakers share about concerts?

    Podcast Summary

    • Video game cheating ethicsCheating in video games raises ethical questions, particularly in competitive settings, but becomes less clear-cut in single-player games, and understanding context and motivations is crucial.

      Cheating in video games, whether it's in a competitive or single-player environment, raises complex ethical questions. In a competitive setting, cheating generally undermines the fairness and integrity of the game. However, in a single-player game, the concept of cheating becomes less clear-cut, as some may argue that modifying the game to enhance the experience is a form of self-expression and creativity. The hosts of TripleClick discussed their thoughts on cheating and its various forms, acknowledging the gray areas and the role of consent in defining cheating. They also touched upon the prevalence of cheating in video games due to their digital nature and the availability of cheating tools. Ultimately, the hosts emphasized the importance of understanding the context and motivations behind cheating and considering the potential consequences for oneself and others.

    • Ethics of cheating in non-competitive online gamesThe ethical boundaries of cheating in non-competitive online games are less clear and depend on the specific context and impact on the game community.

      While cheating in competitive online games is generally considered unethical, the boundaries become less clear when it comes to games where players are not directly competing but rather showing off their progress or gear. The history of Blizzard games, from Warcraft to World of Warcraft, provides an interesting perspective on this issue. While earlier games like StarCraft and Warcraft had cheat codes, later games like Diablo and World of Warcraft did not. This was likely due to the focus on character progression and the potential for cheating to undermine the sense of achievement and fair play. However, there are gray areas, such as team communication during games before the era of voice chat or screen peeking in competitive raids. Ultimately, the ethical considerations of cheating depend on the specific context and the impact on the game community.

    • Gaming EthicsIn competitive games, teaming up with skilled players can be essential for success but raises ethical questions, while buying carried services is a clear violation of rules. Single-player games offer cheat codes and powerful items as intended features for experimentation and enjoyment.

      The line between cheating and enhancing the gaming experience can be blurry. In a competitive Destiny tournament, teaming up with a skilled player (Todd) was essential for success, but it raised ethical questions. Meanwhile, buying carried services was an outright violation of the game's rules. Single-player games, on the other hand, offer cheat codes as intended features, allowing players to experiment and enjoy the game differently. Some games even offer powerful items as rewards for completing the game once, enabling new challenges and playstyles. Ultimately, the decision to cheat or not depends on personal values and the specific game context. Developers often leave cheat codes or powerful items as options to enhance the player experience.

    • Gaming EthicsThe line between cheating and enhancing gaming experience can blur, and what constitutes cheating is subjective, depending on individual perspectives and game context.

      The line between cheating and enhancing the gaming experience can be blurry. Some players engage with in-game features or mods that make the game more enjoyable for them, even if they provide an advantage. These actions can be seen as cheating initially, but over time, they may become normalized and even integrated into the game. The concept of cheating evolves as technology advances and player expectations change. For instance, modifying a game used to be considered cheating, but now it's a common practice in the PC gaming community. Ultimately, the decision of what constitutes cheating is subjective and depends on individual perspectives and the specific game context.

    • Video game cheats or quality of life featuresCheats or quality of life features in video games can change the gameplay experience, sparking debate over authenticity and challenge versus convenience and adaptation

      The use of cheats or quality of life features in video games can significantly change the gameplay experience and raise questions about the essence of the game. In Stardew Valley, for instance, the removal of the need to carry items back to your house changes the mechanics of the game. In contrast, in games like Skyrim, the ease of accessing inventory might not fundamentally alter the experience. The implementation of cheats or quality of life features can be seen as a developer's acknowledgment of the evolution of gaming and the need to adapt to modern standards. However, some players argue that these features detract from the authenticity and challenge of the game. This debate extends beyond video games and can be applied to various aspects of life, such as music and creative work, where the use of technology to bypass certain processes or make things easier has been a subject of controversy. Ultimately, the use of cheats or quality of life features is a matter of personal preference and can lead to different interpretations of the game or experience.

    • Manual vs AutomationWhile automation can simplify tasks, manual experience offers opportunities for learning and improvement. Historical context shows that technological advancements change the way we approach tasks, but finding a balance is key.

      While automation and the use of technology to simplify tasks can be beneficial, there is value in the manual, hands-on experience and the learning opportunities it provides. The speaker shares their personal experience of transcribing interviews, where they find value in typing out interviews themselves to improve their listening skills and catch mistakes, rather than relying on automated transcription software. They also reflect on the historical context of technological advancements, such as sewing machines and music composition software, and how they have changed the way we approach tasks. However, they also acknowledge that there are mundane tasks that are better suited for automation and that it's important to find a balance between the two. The speaker also shares their experience of using cheats in video games and how it can be seen as an advancement, but also warns of the potential downsides of over-relying on automation and losing the value of the manual experience. Ultimately, the speaker encourages embracing both technology and the manual experience to maximize learning and growth.

    • Impact of Technology on Creativity in MusicThe debate continues on whether technology enhances or degrades music creation, while anime adaptations and diverse concert crowds offer fresh perspectives on art and creativity.

      There's an ongoing conversation in the art world about the impact of technology on creativity, specifically in music. Some argue that the ease of creating music using AI or technology might lead to degraded music, while others believe it opens up new possibilities. The speaker also shared their personal experience of watching "Suicide Squad Isakai," an anime that puts the Suicide Squad characters in the middle of a medieval world, finding it a refreshing take on superhero stories. Additionally, the speakers discussed attending a concert after a long hiatus, noting the diverse demographics of the crowd. Overall, the conversation touched on the intersection of technology, creativity, and art, and the ongoing debate about the impact of technology on these fields.

    • Live Music and Movies from the 1990sSharing nostalgic experiences of attending live music concerts and watching movies from the 1990s brings joy and creates a sense of connection with others.

      The conversation revolved around enjoying live music experiences, reminiscing about the past, and appreciating the charm of movies from the 1990s. The speakers shared their experiences of attending a Blink-182 concert and enjoying the vibe of being surrounded by fellow fans. They also discussed their nostalgia for high school days spent attending punk shows in smaller venues. The conversation then shifted to the movie "Twister," with the speakers expressing their excitement about the upcoming sequel and reminiscing about the original film. They praised the movie's visual effects, the chemistry between the cast, and the hangout vibe of the film. Overall, the conversation was about enjoying the present moment while also cherishing memories from the past.

    • TripleClick podcast ethicsTripleClick is a podcast produced by Jason Shrier, Maddy Myers, and Kirk Hamilton, with editing, mixing, and theme music by Kirk. It's part of the Maximum Fun Podcast Network, which is a worker-owned network of artist-owned shows. Listeners can support the show by becoming members on the Maximum Fun website, and ethics policy information can be found in the show notes.

      TripleClick is a podcast produced by Jason Shrier, Maddy Myers, and Kirk Hamilton, with editing, mixing, and theme music by Kirk. The show's art is by Tom DJ, and some games and products discussed may have been provided for free for review. TripleClick is part of the Maximum Fun Podcast Network, which is a worker-owned network of artist-owned shows. Listeners can support the show by becoming members on the Maximum Fun website. The podcast can be found on Twitter @TripleClickPods and email [tripleclick@maximumfun.org](mailto:tripleclick@maximumfun.org). Ethics policy information can be found in the show notes. Join the Discord community for additional interaction. Maximum Fun is directly supported by listeners.

    Recent Episodes from Triple Click

    Triple Play: Star Wars Outlaws

    Triple Play: Star Wars Outlaws

    Kirk, Maddy, and Jason grab their blasters and hop on their speeder bikes for a trip to Star Wars Outlaws, the latest game in a galaxy far, far away. They talk about what they like, what they don't like, and break down the Star Wars-iness of it all.

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: StReam Deck

    Maddy: Love Lies Bleeding (2024)

    Jason: Ace Attorney Investigations Collection

    LINKS:

    Featuring excerpts from “Star Wars” by John Williams from Star Wars and “Kay Vess, Outlaw” and “The Trailblazer”  by Wilbert Roget II from Star Wars Outlaws

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enSeptember 05, 2024

    How Should Video Game Companies Be Run?

    How Should Video Game Companies Be Run?

    What's the best way to run a video game company? Do people care less about graphics these days? And did Maddy get a say in the Polygon redesign? It's time to answer some burning questions!

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: A Good Girl’s Guide to Murder (Netflix)

    Maddy: 5-4 podcast

    Jason: Star Wars Outlaws

    LINKS:

    Ethan failing every QTE in Heavy Rain’s best chase scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSTYpaRp5kQ

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enAugust 29, 2024

    We Finish Resident Evil 2 Remake

    We Finish Resident Evil 2 Remake

    Jason, Maddy, and Kirk finish up their playthrough of Resident Evil 2 Remake. They talk about their second run through the game (as Leon this time), that big, beautiful police station, and that truck driver at the end... which, like, what?

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: Godzilla Minus One

    Maddy: Fields of Mistria

    Jason: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024)

    LINKS:

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enAugust 22, 2024

    How Are Games Made By One Person So Good?

    How Are Games Made By One Person So Good?

    How can video games made by a single person surpass $200 million AAA beasts? What are some weird things that have happened to the Triple Click gang because of games? And has the era of paid expansions come to an end? This week, Kirk, Jason, and Maddy answer listener questions!

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: Mistborn (Sanderson)

    Maddy: Hacks

    Jason: The Bright Sword (Lev Grossman)

    LINKS:

    Featuring an excerpt from the Balatro theme by LouisF

    Ben Abraham’s “Permanent Death,” a 2009 permadeath run through Far Cry 2: https://drgamelove.blogspot.com/2009/12/permanent-death-complete-saga.html

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enAugust 15, 2024

    Video Game Maps!

    Video Game Maps!

    The Triple Click gang puts on their cartography monocles and mulls over the eternal question of what makes for a video game map? They talk about what they like and don't like in the maps of games like Resident Evil 2 and Elden Ring, what maps say about our relationship with games, and the joy of exploring!

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: Steamworld Heist II 

    Maddy: Dream Scenario (2023)

    Jason: Red Dead's History (Tore C. Olsson)

    LINKS:

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enAugust 08, 2024

    Triple Play: Resident Evil 2 (2019)

    Triple Play: Resident Evil 2 (2019)

    Kirk won last year's predictions bet, so it's time to play the Resident Evil 2 remake! The Triple Click gang makes their way through the police station, gets chased by Mr. X, and screams a lot of obscenities in a gross sewer.

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: The Operator

    Maddy: The Lord of the Rings Extended Editions

    Jason: Long Island Compromise (Taffy Brodesser-Akner)

    LINKS:

    https://www.polygon.com/lord-of-the-rings/22811800/gollum-lord-of-the-rings-actor-andy-serkis-weta-digital

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enAugust 01, 2024

    Cheating In A Video Game

    Cheating In A Video Game

    When is it OK to cheat in a video game? When is it not OK? This week, the Triple Click gang ponders all things cheating, from codes to mods, and talks about the ethical dilemmas (or lack thereof) when it comes to altering the intended experience in a video game.

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: Twister (1996)

    Maddy: Suicide Squad Isekai

    Jason: Blink 182 (Live at Citi Field)

    LINKS:

    You Are Good’s Twister episode: https://www.podpage.com/you-are-good/twister-w-niko-stratis/

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enJuly 25, 2024

    The Games That Shaped Our Childhoods

    The Games That Shaped Our Childhoods

    In this bonus episode, Kirk, Jason and Maddy each picked five games that played a formative role in their development as little lower-case “g" gamers. And then they talked about them!

    KIRK:
    TMNT: Fall of the Foot Clan (1990)  
    Kings Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow (1992)  
    Quest For Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness (1993)  
    The 7th Guest (1993)  
    Magic: The Gathering (1993)

    MADDY:
    Tetris (1989)
    Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins (1992)
    The Oregon Trail Deluxe (1992)
    Myst (1993)
    Doom (1993)

    JASON:
    Zork Zero (1988)  
    Final Fantasy IV (1991)  
    Warcraft II:Tides of Darkness (1995)  
    Evergrace (2000)  
    Aliens vs. Predator MUD (1997)

    ------------

    Featuring musical excerpts from Tetris (Russian trad.) and Quest for Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness (Aubrey Hodges)

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enJuly 18, 2024

    Our Favorite (Bad) Movie Tie-In Games

    Our Favorite (Bad) Movie Tie-In Games

    Who makes money when a game is sold but its developer has shut down? What otherwise good behaviors might tank creative projects? And what are the best (bad) movie tie-in games? This week, the gang opens up the mailbag to take some of your excellent questions.

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: Elantris (Brandon Sanderson)

    Maddy: Selaco

    Jason: Final Fantasy XIV

    LINKS:

    Jason’s Suicide Squad Story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-06/-suicide-squad-warner-bros-s-200-million-flop-haunts-the-gaming-industry

    Jason's Hironobu Sakaguchi interview: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-07-03/-final-fantasy-creator-hironobu-sakaguchi-reunites-with-square-enix?srnd=technology-vp

    Riley MacLeod’s Aftermath article about the Dr. Disrespect story: https://aftermath.site/dr-disrespect-allegations-twitch-journalism

    X-Men Arcade Game Source Material, “Pryde of the X-Men”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBI8GIjf5HA

    Luke Plunnkett on Chuds and Star Wars: The Acolyte: https://aftermath.site/the-acolyte-star-wars-controversy-ratings-this-is-all-terrible

    IGN article by Matt Kim about Asian representation and Assassin’s Creed Shadows: https://www.ign.com/articles/assassins-creed-shadows-yasuke-asian-protagonist

    Writing Tools by Roy Peter Clark

    How To Write One Song by Jeff Tweedy

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enJuly 11, 2024

    We're Still Obsessed With Elden Ring's DLC

    We're Still Obsessed With Elden Ring's DLC

    It's time to revisit Elden Ring... again. Kirk, Maddy, and Jason are still obsessed with Shadow of the Erdtree (or should we say Scadu of the Erdtree?) and its sprawling new regions and dungeons. They talk about why they're captivated, what makes its level design so great, and those pesky quests that will lock you out if you breathe on them wrong.

    One More Thing:

    Kirk: 1000xResist (Switch and PC)

    Maddy: Master Chef Junior

    Jason: Real Americans [Rachel Khong]

    LINKS:

    Preorder Jason’s Book! https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jason-schreier/play-nice/9781538725429/

    Support Triple Click: http://maximumfun.org/join

    Buy Triple Click Merch: https://maxfunstore.com/search?q=triple+click&options%5Bprefix%5D=last

    Join the Triple Click Discord: http://discord.gg/tripleclickpod

    Triple Click Ethics Policy: 

    https://maximumfun.org/triple-click-ethics-policy/

    Triple Click
    enJuly 04, 2024