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    Chicken Soup vs. Tomato Soup - Hold Up with Dulcé Sloan & Josh Johnson

    enAugust 30, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • Reflecting on Norman Lear's Impact on TelevisionDuring an episode of Hold Up, hosts Dulce Sloan and Josh Johnson discussed Norman Lear's impact on TV, aging, and their personal preferences.

      MTV's official challenge podcast, Hold Up, hosted by Dulce Sloan and Josh Johnson, is back for another season, and they discuss various topics with big opinions on small things. During one episode, they reminisced about Norman Lear, who turned 100 that day, and his significant contributions to television. They also shared their thoughts on aging and the societal pressure to look young. Josh expressed his contentment with turning 39 and not wanting to be a centenarian, while Dulce shared a story about a classmate who appeared older than her at a young age. They also discussed their aversion to IV drips, with Josh believing it's not a needle but a tube, and Dulce expressing her discomfort with needles in general. Overall, Hold Up offers listeners entertaining and lighthearted conversations on everyday topics.

    • Understanding and respecting individual fears and experiencesRecognize the significance of personal fears and preferences, and respect the unique experiences of others.

      Everyone has their unique fears and experiences, and it's essential to understand and respect them. The speaker shared her fear of needles, comparing it to less significant fears like fear of food in water (soup). However, she acknowledged that her fear of never being married and having children is a more profound fear. Similarly, when discussing comfort food, the speaker and her friend had contrasting preferences, with the speaker advocating for the versatility and healing properties of chicken soup. The conversation also touched on the various ways chicken soup can be prepared and the misconceptions about heating soup in a microwave. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of acknowledging and respecting individual differences and experiences.

    • The disconnect between American convenience and food qualityMicrowaves and canned foods can lead to a disconnect from the enjoyment and quality of food, with cultural differences in food preparation and consumption emphasizing the importance of fresh, homemade meals.

      The use of microwaves and canned foods in American culture, particularly in the context of convenience and time-saving, can lead to a disconnect from the quality and enjoyment of food. The speaker shares personal experiences of being surprised by hidden aluminum foil in food packaging and the stigma of eating canned soup. They also note cultural differences in food preparation and consumption, suggesting that the European and Asian continents may prioritize fresh, homemade meals over quick, processed alternatives. The speaker also highlights the heartwarming properties of traditional tomato soup, contrasting it with the perceived poverty or lack of care associated with canned soups. Overall, the conversation touches on the importance of mindful eating and the potential consequences of prioritizing convenience over quality and tradition.

    • Complex Relationship with TomatoesPeople's food preferences can be irrational and complex, with some enjoying certain dishes despite disliking the main ingredient's texture or taste in other contexts.

      The speaker has a complex relationship with tomatoes. They enjoy tomato soup but dislike tomatoes in other forms, such as salads or on burgers. They find the smell of tomatoes appealing but the texture and taste unappealing in some contexts. The speaker also shares anecdotes about cold tomato soup and ketchup, expressing strong opinions about both. Despite their contradictory preferences, the speaker cannot explain the logic behind their likes and dislikes. The conversation also touches on the speaker's past experiences and memories associated with tomatoes. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexity and irrationality of individual food preferences.

    • Food preferences and experiences lead to diverse conversationsFood discussions can reveal personal experiences and unexpected connections, and certain foods are associated with specific weather conditions.

      Food preferences and experiences can lead to diverse perspectives and unexpected connections. During a conversation about tomato soup and ketchup, the speakers shared their individual likes and dislikes, leading to a discussion about the differences in food experiences and memories. The speakers also touched upon the idea that certain foods are better suited for certain weather conditions, adding another layer to the conversation. Despite their differing opinions, they both agreed to enjoy tomato soup as a classic treat and looked forward to covering MTV's "The Challenge: All Stars 4" together on their podcast.

    • Chicken Noodle Soup: A Universal Symbol of Comfort and HealingChicken noodle soup transcends borders and generations, providing comfort, healing, and flexibility to cater to individual tastes.

      Chicken noodle soup holds a significant cultural and emotional connection for many people, transcending borders and generations. Its association with comfort and healing is so deeply ingrained that it has even inspired a series of self-help books, further emphasizing its restorative properties. The flexibility of recipes allows it to cater to individual tastes, making it a universally comforting food when one is feeling under the weather. The enduring popularity of chicken noodle soup is a testament to its ability to provide both physical and emotional nourishment.

    • Exploring the Boundaries of Traditional DishesEmbrace new experiences with food while respecting cultural and personal traditions. Unexpected ingredients can add diversity and intrigue, but be mindful of individual preferences.

      There's a fine line between adding unique ingredients to traditional dishes like chicken soup and crossing the boundary into the unusual or even inedible. The speaker shared an experience of encountering raisins in someone's chicken soup in school, which was considered wild but not necessarily a deal-breaker. However, the discussion also highlighted the importance of cultural and personal differences in food preferences and the potential for unexpected ingredients. The conversation then shifted to tomato soup and its common accompaniment, crackers, before wrapping up with a mention of an MTV podcast about a reality competition show. Overall, the conversation showcased the diversity and intrigue of food and the importance of embracing new experiences while respecting cultural and personal traditions.

    • Tomato soup definition variesTomato soup can be smooth or chunky, and even marinara sauce or heated tomato paste counts

      According to our discussion, the definition of tomato soup can be quite subjective and personal. Some prefer a more traditional, smooth tomato soup, while others enjoy the rustic style with large chunks of ingredients. However, there seems to be a consensus that any tomato-based liquid can be considered tomato soup, regardless of texture or consistency. This includes items like marinara sauce, ketchup, salsa, and even tomato paste when heated. So, the next time you're debating the merits of tomato soup versus chicken noodle soup, remember that tomato soup can take many forms!

    • Limiting Scope in Debate Can Lead to CriticismBeing exclusive in a debate can lead to backlash and the need to consider all relevant options

      Being exclusive in a debate can lead to being "eaten alive." In the discussion, the speaker argued for the superiority of tomato soup over waffles, but limited the scope to only Waffle House, leaving out other diners and soup options. This led to criticism and backlash. The speaker acknowledged their mistake and learned the importance of being more inclusive and considering all relevant options in a debate. They also discussed the cultural differences in preferences for tomato soup versus chicken soup, and the need to be mindful of logic and consistency in arguments. The speaker expressed admiration for the passionate defense of Waffle House, but ultimately recognized their error and the importance of considering a broader perspective.

    • Josh's Unconventional View on Tomato SoupRespect differing opinions and engage in open-minded, respectful dialogue instead of ridicule or prayer as an attack.

      During a discussion, Josh expressed an unconventional viewpoint that anything tomato-based is tomato soup. This statement was met with skepticism and ridicule, as it contradicts the common understanding that chicken soup and tomato soup are distinct. The speaker expressed concern for Josh's mental state and encouraged listeners to engage in a debate on the topic, with comments welcome on social media. The speaker also shared their own perspective, emphasizing the importance of respecting differing opinions and avoiding prayer as an attack. In essence, the conversation highlighted the importance of open-mindedness and respectful dialogue in the face of unconventional ideas.

    • Two popular podcasts are back: Hold Up from The Daily Show and MTV's challenge podcastListeners can enjoy entertaining content from Hold Up and MTV's challenge podcast on various platforms, including Iheartradio and Apple Podcasts. Don't miss The Daily Show weeknights on Comedy Central and Paramount Plus.

      The speakers are excitedly promoting the return of two popular podcasts: "Hold Up" from The Daily Show and MTV's official challenge podcast. Both podcasts are now available for listening on various platforms, including the Iheartradio app and Apple Podcasts. The hosts, who have previously discussed Josh Johnson, encourage listeners to tune in to these podcasts for entertaining content. Additionally, they remind viewers to watch The Daily Show weeknights on Comedy Central and Paramount Plus. Overall, these podcasts offer a unique blend of humor, news, and entertainment, making them must-listens for fans of pop culture and current events.

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