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    How can we learn from our favorite songs that resonate with our codependent ways?

     

    What can Olivia Rodrigo’s song “Favorite Crime” shed light on with our codependency?

     

    Welcome to The Codependummy Playlist: a new segment where I break down a song that is quintessentially codependent. In this week’s episode, I discuss “Favorite Crime” by Olivia Rodrigo. If you haven’t heard of her or her new album, you are welcome my dear codependummy. When I heard it, I thought “I’ve got to dissect this on the podcast.” Alas, here we are. This is the first of many episodes where I will take a song, break it down to highlight the codependency depicted in it, and help you stop making it an anthem but rather an “old song you used to like.” Here goes it girl! 

     

    Thanks for listening! 

     

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    Welcome The Codependummy Playlist! This is Part 1. In this new segment, I will: first, pick a song that I like that resonates with codependency; second, I will take said song and break it down and it’s quintessential codependent-ness; and third, I will try and find ways to help you stop resonating so much with this song since you aren’t being a codendummy but a codependiamond. T

     

    In this week’s episode, I analyze “Favorite Crime” by Olivia Rodrigo (please submit votes for what to call this segment: The Codependummy Anthem, The Codependummy Theme Song, or DJ Codependummy to marissa@codependummy.com).

     

    How are we defining codependency today? I define it as “a way of being where one prioritizes the feelings, wants, and needs of another in an unconscious attempt to fulfill their own feelings, wants and needs.” I also pull from David Malan, a British psychologist who defines dependence as “an intense need in relation to human beings.” From that, we can describe co-dependent as two individuals with an intense need in relation to each other. 

     

    “Favorite Crime” by Olivia Rodrigo: https://open.spotify.com/track/5JCoSi02qi3jJeHdZXMmR8?si=8af6da99ae424658

     

    I don’t have permission to play it so you will have to give it a listen now or after the episode. 

     

    Situation: the 14-month dating relationship I had at 21. I just discuss the first four months. The entire thing was brutal but I’m keeping it simple and discuss the first 1/3rd of the relationship. 

     

    Context: I interweave the psychological phenomena “compulsion to repeat” or “repetition compulsion.” According to Freud, this happens when a person repeats an event or its circumstances over and over again. For example, traumatic repetitions could be seen as the result of an attempt to retrospectively "master" the original trauma. It’s not conscious, not logical, irrational, and non-sense. 

     

    How did we meet? One-night stand! What comes up as I share the details?

     

    Let’s break the lyrics down and apply them to the relationship in a timeline: 

     

    “Know that I loved you so bad, I let you treat me like that. I was your willing accomplice honey.”

     

    I apparently lusted him so bad after just meeting him since I was, indeed, his willing accomplice in our break-in. I disappointed my roommates, disappointed myself, but, when he reached out, I engaged.

     

    I let him treat me poorly when we went to a house party and he grabbed my thong through my dress and snapped it. Ugh. We proceeded to hang out then go back to my place to have sex. No condom either. I’m sorry everyone. I let him treat me like that. 

     

    “The things I did, just so I could call you mine. The things you did.”

     

    The things I did: I went all out and dressed up as Lady Gaga to a rave! X’s on my breasts, goggles as sunglasses, and a black tutu.

     

    I tolerated him texting his ex-girlfriend the evening we were out at said rave.

     

    The things I did after that? With my blessing, I let him go visit her.

     

    “Crossed my heart as you crossed the line and I defended you to all my friends.”

     

    I am yours baby. I crossed my heart. “I feel so safe with you.”...safe? The interactions we had were familiar to me.

     

    I defended him. I defended the controversy he got himself caught up in, I defended him to the people who knew about the controversy, the fact that he didn’t know who he wanted to be with, and his jerk behavior. 

     

    I slept with someone else, so thus, I have no legs to stand on when it came to how he was treating me. 

     

    Do you know how you avoid the compulsion to repeat? Once you become conscious of what you are doing, even semi-conscious, you disengage. 

     

    I’ll share more on an upcoming episode how I set up boundaries, saw myself at a fork in the road where I could have chosen myself or chosen him--and I chose him. The healing comes when we see that fork and we choose ourselves. 

     

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    www.innerrichestherapy.com 

    www.innerwavebodywork.com 

    Randi’s original interview on the podcast: https://codependummy.com/body-ody-ody-work-how-bodywork-can-help-you-heal-with-randi-kofsky-lmft/ 

    More deets on the episode:

    We begin with revisiting Randi’s definition of codependency as well as a codependent experience from her own life. She expands on her definition of codependency to include how we reference something outside of us to feel better on the inside. 

    We shift focus to Randi’s specialty of body work. In relation to massage, body work is when you integrate touch and massage with a focus on where emotions are felt in the body. For example, if a patient comes in feeling anxious, Randi may ask them where they sense that in their body and massage/touch/tend to that part of them–potentially for the entire session! Or, she may begin with a focus on a specific area, like the lower back, and then follow the patient’s lead if they start to sense their anxiety moving up their spine.

    Randi describes for us how body work can help promote our secure-attachment since we become attuned to where we hold emotions, unpack what is happening anatomically, and become familiar with our trigger points and how to take care of them. Randi suggests when we hold anxiety in a certain part of our body, “There is something being held here” to work through. 

    Randi lists what we can expect and best prepare for a body work session, including before, during, and after the session. She emphasizes how, in addition to therapy, body work can provide a full-body exploration to connect our body and our thoughts. 

    Thank you for coming on the show Randi! And thank you dear listener for listening!

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    The Basics of Self-Compassion with Marissa Esquibel, LMFT

    The Basics of Self-Compassion with Marissa Esquibel, LMFT

    -What is self-compassion and how can it help heal from codependency?

    -What are the basic elements of a self-compassion practice?

    -How is self-compassion not self-indulgence, self-pity, or self-esteem?

    Welcome to Episode 158! This week, I’m back after a short break to tell you all about SELF-COMPASSION. You’ll hear me define what self-compassion is and how creating a self-compassion practice can help us heal from our codependency. I will also break down the three basic elements of self-compassion: mindfulness, common humanity, and self-kindness. I end with a discussion on what self-compassion is NOT: it is not self-indulgence, self-pity, nor self-esteem. If you’re wanting and needing to be kinder to yourself, be sure to listen to this episode!

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    Work with me! Email marissa@codependummy.com to inquire about psychotherapy, coaching, or coming on the show!

    More deets on the episode:

    I begin with an honest apology for not airing an episode for the last 3 weeks! This solocast was originally set to air on Christmas Day and, evidently, my pregnancy and life got in the way! But I’m here now! And practicing compassion with myself for taking a while to get this episode up. 

    We have a brief check in to help you reflect on how you are doing. 

    Next, we dive in to the world of Self-Compassion, which is largely based on my research of the work by Kristen Neff. I break down the discussion of self-compassion in 3 parts:

    1. What is Self-Compassion?

    2. What are the 3 basic elements of self-compassion:

      1. Self-kindness versus self-judgment. 

      2. Common humanity versus isolation

      3. Mindfulness versus over-identification

    3. What is NOT self-compassion. It is NOT:

      1. Self-esteem

      2. Self-indulgence

      3. Self-pity

    I conclude the episode with specific ways you can start to practice self-compassion this week: 

    1. Remind yourself of the 3 basic elements: common humanity, mindfulness, and self-kindness. 

    2. Listen to one of Kristen Neff’s meditations: http://self-compassion.com/ (go to the Practices page)

    3. Review a difficult event through the lens of self-compassion. 

    Thank you for listening! 

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    Dating Outside Your Culture with Noura Bermudez, LMFT

    Dating Outside Your Culture with Noura Bermudez, LMFT

    -What does codependency look like in women attempting to date outside their culture?

    -How can codependency with your family prevent you from dating outside your culture (and what are the short- and long-term consequences?)

    -If you do date interculturally, what should you be prepared to navigate from the reactions/response from your family?

    Welcome to Episode 157! This week, I’m joined by Noura Bermudez, LMFT, to explore codependency in women who date outside their culture (a.k.a. dating interculturally). Noura opens up about her own experience being codependent with her father and what that relationship was like to navigate when she started to date (and eventually marry!) outside her culture despite his disapproval. Noura describes what codependency looks like in women and their families when they begin to attempt to date interculturally and the consequences of this. You’ll hear Noura list what women should be prepared to navigate if their families respond with judgment, shame, prejudice, and threats to disown them. We conclude with steps you can take to cultivate your own autonomy in these situations. It’s a must-listen!

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    Work with me! Email marissa@codependummy.com to inquire about psychotherapy, coaching, or coming on the show!

    More on this week’s guest:

    Noura Bermudez is a mindfulness-based therapist who helps women in intercultural relationships experiencing rejection and/or disownment by their parents, live authentically and confidently with the choices they have made about dating. Has experience working with Middle Eastern women with immigrant parents. Practicing therapy for 10 years and has a private practice in CA. 

    www.bermudeztherapy.com 

    www.instagram.com/bermudeztherapy/ 

    More deets on the episode: 

    We begin with hearing Noura’s definition of codependency: when someone has to sacrifice their authenticity to have or maintain a connection. Seen when someone disowns themselves or a part of themselves, disowns their needs for something the want–love, approval, affection, etc. Noura emphasizes how there is a perk or benefit to our codependency–we just usually aren’t conscious of it. 

    Noura opens up about codependency in her own life, including in her relationship with her father. She describes growing up and trying to meet his expectations and standards as a Muslim. This led to her keeping her dating life a secret from him since she dated outside her Muslim and Middle Eastern culture. She ended up marrying outside her culture and, while this put a strain on her relationship with her father, she was eventually able to heal it by putting intentional distance in their relationship and through conversations. 

    We shift gears to Noura’s specialty: dating interculturally! She describes what codependency with family can look like in women who date outside their culture: living a secret life, hiding, secrecy, yearning for her family’s approval, not feeling okay until the parents’ feel okay, strain in the relationship, feelings like resentment, and attempts to convince/negotiate with family to approve of their partner. Sounds like My Big Fat Greek Wedding, yes???

    Noura lists the short- and long-term consequences of codependency in these women, including sadness, a sense of grief, abandonment, underlying unhappiness, and attempts to conform to the family’s expectations by dating within the culture. Noura’s opinion: codependency and conforming with family’s expectations is not sustainable. 

    Noura encourages women who want to date outside their culture to prepare for their family having their own reaction, getting in touch with their values and their ‘why,’ leaning on their support system, and inviting conversations. For the harsher realities like racism, prejudice, and disownment that may come when attempting to date outside one’s culture, Noura encourages seeking professional help, setting boundaries, and cultivating one’s own autonomy. 

    We conclude with Noura emphasizing how radical acceptance, intentional distance, and having conversations with family can help the most in these situations. 

    Thanks for coming on Noura! And thank you for being here, dear listener!

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    Reflect on Your Year with Marissa Esquibel, LMFT

    Reflect on Your Year with Marissa Esquibel, LMFT

    -How were you a codependummy this past year? And how weren’t you?

    -What are your takeaways/lessons learned from your codependency in 2023?

    -What’s Marissa been up to since she last recorded a solocast in January?!

    Welcome to Episode 156! This week, it’s me–your hostess mostest–back to share about my reflections on ways I was and wasn’t a codependummy in 2023. We start with a few announcements (one is very exciting!) and then check-in with how you are doing. I then reflect on 2023 and ways I did a decent job setting boundaries, honoring my needs, and taking care of myself despite my old codependent patterns. I articulate takeaways thanks to the progress and growth and hope that I model for you how you too can reflect on 2023 and your own codependency this past year. It’s a must-listen!

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    Journal! The Confiding Codependummy: 30 Days of Journaling Prompts for a Less-Codependent and More-Conscious YOU for just $1 a day. www.codependummy.com/toolsforhealing 

    FREEBIE! The Self-Validation Challenge: Learn to validate your GD self: www.codependummy.com/challenge 

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    Work with me! Email marissa@codependummy.com to inquire about psychotherapy, coaching, or coming on the show!

    More deets on the episode:

    We begin with our old and familiar check in. How you doing boo?

    I make a few announcements. So exciting!

    Then I share some anecdotes from 2023 that demonstrate how I was a codependummy (at times) and ways I was not (the majority of the time. Yay!). You’ll hear how I navigated self-consciousness with my health, firing my former therapist, dealing with a family member’s mental health crisis, and planning a celebration for myself. 

    I list the takeaways from these experiences and hope it serves as a model for you: how have or haven’t you been a codependummy this year? What do those interactions/experiences say about you and your overall progress? What takeaways have you made in 2023?

    I share how I’ll likely be recording some more solocasts in the near future as I was graced with so many guests earlier this year and now…not so many. 

    Mother yourself baby girl! I’ll see you next week! 

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