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    Conservative Matt Walsh Takes Anti-Racist Training

    enJune 18, 2021

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    • Three Phases of Becoming Antiracist: Fear Zone, Learning Zone, and Growth ZoneCompanies offer HR training to help employees grow towards becoming antiracist individuals, fostering a more inclusive and equitable workplace

      Companies like EJ4 produce HR training videos that aim to promote antiracism, as depicted in a graphic by Andrew M. Ibrahim. This graphic outlines three phases of becoming antiracist: the fear zone, the learning zone, and the growth zone. It's unclear how these concepts apply to an employee's job, such as working at Krispy Kreme, where the primary focus is on making donuts. Some may view this training as unnecessary or contrived, but the intention is to encourage employees to learn and grow towards becoming antiracist individuals. The ultimate goal is to create a more inclusive and equitable workplace.

    • The Fear Zone: Avoiding Engagement with RacismRecognize the importance of acknowledging and addressing anti-Black racism, rather than denying its existence or labeling opposing views.

      The fear zone refers to a comfortable space where individuals with race privilege deny the existence or significance of anti-Black racism and are uninterested in addressing it. They often avoid engaging with opposing viewpoints by labeling them instead. Race privilege is the ability to not have one's life negatively impacted by the color of one's skin. It's important to recognize that not everyone has this privilege, and systems like affirmative action can be seen as discriminating against certain races. However, it's crucial to avoid denying the existence and impact of racism and instead engage in open and respectful dialogue to understand and address the issue.

    • Moving Beyond Fear into the Learning ZoneAcknowledge discomfort, ask questions, read books, listen to diverse perspectives, and use knowledge and privilege to advocate for anti-racist policies.

      Everyone, regardless of race, can benefit from learning about systemic racism and the experiences of marginalized communities. However, the process of learning can be uncomfortable and even upsetting, especially for those who have historically held positions of privilege. It's important to acknowledge this discomfort and move beyond the fear zone into the learning zone, where we can ask questions, read books, and listen to diverse perspectives. This learning process may reveal uncomfortable truths, but it's necessary for growth and progress towards a more equitable society. Ultimately, we must use our knowledge and privilege to advocate for anti-racist policies and yield power to marginalized groups. The conversation may be challenging, but it's essential for creating positive change.

    • Recognizing and Addressing Inequity and ExclusionBeing in a privileged position doesn't exempt us from acknowledging and addressing issues of inequity and exclusion in the workplace. It's important to recognize complacency keeps us stuck and prevent growth. Actively work towards creating an inclusive environment by understanding diversity, challenging biases, and making a positive impact.

      Being in a position of power or privilege doesn't exempt us from acknowledging and addressing issues of inequity and exclusion in the workplace. It's important to recognize that complacency in such situations keeps us stuck in a fear zone, preventing us from transitioning to a growth mindset. This requires effort, mental shifts, and a willingness to be uncomfortable. It's not about yielding power or submitting, but rather understanding and valuing diversity, challenging biases, and actively working towards creating an inclusive environment. The goal is to move beyond fear and complacency, and make a positive impact in our workplaces and communities.

    • Speaker's Dismissive Attitude Towards Racial Discrimination in BusinessesThe speaker downplays the existence of racial discrimination in businesses beyond affirmative action policies and dismisses the importance of diversity, labeling those advocating for it as fearful.

      The speaker believes there is no widespread practice of racial exclusion in companies, except for affirmative action policies that favor racial minorities over Asians. He is complacent about the supposed non-existent issue of racial discrimination in businesses. The speaker also dismisses the importance of diversity in companies, labeling those who disagree as being in the "fear zone." He further argues that jokes or comments that may be perceived as offensive to marginalized groups do not constitute oppression, as defined by a dictionary. The speaker expresses disinterest in suggested steps to move from a fearful mindset to a learning one. Overall, the speaker holds a dismissive attitude towards discussions on racial discrimination and the importance of diversity in the workplace.

    • Respecting unique experiences and avoiding assumptionsAvoid making assumptions about individuals within diverse groups and respect their unique experiences and needs.

      It's important to recognize and respect the unique experiences and needs of individuals within diverse groups, rather than making assumptions or speaking for an entire group without being a part of it. This was a key message in a video discussed, which was specifically targeted towards white employees and warned against making assumptions about the experiences and needs of people of color. It's crucial to avoid generalizations and understand that each person has a unique perspective. Additionally, it's important to remember that discrimination based on race, including subjecting employees to different treatment, is illegal.

    • Challenging divisive rhetoric through legal actionUsing dehumanizing language towards a racial group is counterproductive and only promotes dialogue through legal action, not through imposing solutions.

      The use of dehumanizing language and assumptions towards an entire racial group, as discussed in the context of critical race theory, is not only insulting and demeaning but also counterproductive. Speaking for a group without their consent and imposing solutions upon them, regardless of the speaker's race or background, perpetuates the very problem it aims to solve. The only way to challenge such divisive rhetoric is through legal action, as this is the most effective means of holding those who employ it accountable and promoting a more inclusive and respectful dialogue.

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