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    Deep Basin – Oil Price War and Its Implications - [Invest Like the Best, EP.160]

    enMarch 11, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • Oil Market Disruptions: Supply and Demand ShocksThe coronavirus outbreak and OPEC's failure to agree on production cuts have caused significant disruptions in the oil market, leading to historically low prices due to decreased demand and increased supply.

      The global oil market, which is approximately a 100 million barrels a day market, has seen significant disruptions due to both supply and demand shocks caused by the coronavirus outbreak and OPEC's failure to agree on production cuts. On the supply side, OPEC produces around 30 million barrels a day, with the US and Russia being the other major producers. The US surpassed Saudi Arabia and Russia last year as the largest crude oil producer. On the demand side, China, India, and Brazil have been major sources of oil demand growth in recent years, with China being a particularly important engine for that growth. At the start of the year, expectations were for around 1 million barrels a day of demand growth, mostly from China and the non-OECD countries. However, the outbreak of coronavirus led to a sharp decrease in refinery runs in China, which imports crude oil and refines it before exporting the products into the global market. This decrease in refinery runs led to a significant demand shock, as China imports and refines about 14 million barrels a day of crude oil. The failure of OPEC to agree on production cuts has also led to an increase in supply, further exacerbating the situation. The price of oil is heavily influenced by these supply and demand factors, and the current situation has led to historically low prices.

    • OPEC and Russia Decision Leads to Oil Price Drop and Market UncertaintyOPEC and Russia's decision not to cut production caused oil prices to drop and market instability, with Saudi Arabia initiating a price war in response.

      The recent decision by OPEC and Russia to not cut production in response to the global demand shock caused by the coronavirus pandemic has led to a surge in oil inventories and a significant drop in oil prices. This decision came as a surprise to many, as OPEC has historically acted as a swing producer and market stabilizer. The situation remains fluid, with the virus spreading to Europe and the US, making it difficult to assess the demand impact. This unexpected outcome has had a ripple effect on the entire stock market, with oil and gas related equities being particularly hard hit. Over the weekend, Saudi Arabia responded by offering huge discounts on its crude oil, signaling the start of a price war with non-OPEC producers. This unexpected turn of events has left the market uncertain and volatile.

    • OPEC's Decision and US Shale Production OversupplyOPEC's decision not to cut production and US shale surge caused energy sector distress. OPEC, Russia stance and US govt actions could lead to a more efficient industry. Shale's cost structure is bifurcating, with some producers able to compete globally.

      The intersection of OPEC's decision not to constrain market supply in 2014 and the surge in US shale production led to an oversupply situation that caused significant distress in the energy sector. This oversupply was further compounded by mounting concerns over potential demand destruction due to the coronavirus crisis and geopolitical tensions. The result was a significant sell-off in energy equities, leaving many investors fearing the sector could become a stranded asset class. However, if OPEC and Russia maintain their current stance and the US government avoids bailouts, there is potential for a more consolidated and capital-efficient industry to emerge. In the shale patch specifically, the cost structure is becoming increasingly bifurcated, with some producers able to compete on a global scale due to economies of scale and improved operating and capital costs.

    • Price war in oil industry leading to shakeout between high-cost and low-cost producersHigh-cost producers face bankruptcies or severe liquidity issues, while stronger shale producers can survive through next few years. Cuts in capital expenditures may reduce production by 500,000-700,000 barrels per day by end of 2021, impacting energy services, local communities, midstream companies, and banks.

      The ongoing price war in the oil industry is leading to a significant shakeout between high-cost and low-cost producers. The high-cost producers, who have been incrementally adding debt and have not been able to cover their marginal costs, are at risk of bankruptcies or severe liquidity issues, resulting in a shrinkage of up to 20% per year. On the other hand, the stronger shale producers can survive through the next few years by moving into maintenance or small growth levels. The cuts in capital expenditures announced by some producers, such as Occidental Petroleum, will impact production volumes, leading to a potential decline of 500,000 to 700,000 barrels per day by the end of 2021. However, there are some mitigating factors, such as price concessions for service costs and the incentive for producers to maintain production levels even in a low-price environment. The ripple effects of these cuts extend beyond the energy sector, affecting energy services companies, local communities, midstream companies, and banks holding their debt. The economic benefits of the shale industry's growth over the last decade, including lower energy prices for US consumers, are also at risk. The concept of a price war implies a fight over a specific outcome, but in this case, it is more accurately described as a market correction, with the strongest players surviving and the weakest being eliminated.

    • Russia and OPEC+ manipulate oil markets for strategic interestsRussia and OPEC+ aim to weaken US shale producers and rebalance markets, but their actions may have long-term impacts on the macroeconomic backdrop and geopolitical landscape

      The recent actions by Russia and OPEC+ to cut oil production in response to low prices are driven by a combination of their own interests and a desire to weaken US shale producers. The accelerated demand drop caused by the coronavirus pandemic created an opportunity for Russia to strategically create price havoc and potentially rebalance the market quickly. The US, as a net exporter of petroleum, is less affected by low oil prices than in the past, but Russia's actions could still have significant impacts on the macroeconomic backdrop and the geopolitical landscape. Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, has different priorities and has been clear about its unwillingness to carry the burden of production cuts alone. The market should not expect these actions to have a short-lived effect, and the resilience of US shale production at current prices may be greater than expected. However, if the US decides to bail out distressed energy companies, the market dynamics could change significantly.

    • Oil Price War: Balancing Economic Transition and SurvivalSaudi Arabia and Russia's oil price war creates uncertainty, but capacity to produce incrementally limits potential for significant price upside. Saudi Arabia seeks a moderately high price for economic transition, while Russia benefits more from a high price. Market factors like balance sheet ranking and valuation are increasingly important.

      The current oil price war between major producers like Saudi Arabia and Russia is causing uncertainty in the market, but real price discovery is necessary for a healthy global ecosystem. The technology that has allowed for the production of large quantities of shale oil in the US means that there is significant capacity to produce incrementally, limiting the potential for significant unmitigated upside in crude prices. The Saudi Arabian regime, which relies heavily on oil revenues, is balancing its ambitions to diversify its economy with the need to sustain itself in a low oil price environment. Motivations for the current price war differ between countries, with Saudi Arabia seeking to sustain a moderately high oil price to smooth its economic transition, while Russia appears to benefit more from a high price. Other considerations in the market include the ranking of balance sheets in the shale patch, with higher quality or very bad quality performers struggling, and factors like valuation and trends becoming increasingly important in markets like these.

    • Growth Opportunities in the Energy SectorDespite market downturns, energy companies with debt-adjusted cash flow and wise investments have seen growth. Investors should focus on net asset value using a downside price deck and sustained free cash flow from projects and toll bridges in the midstream sector.

      While the energy sector may not be traditionally considered a growth industry, there are growth opportunities within it that have outperformed during market downturns. Growth in energy is defined by debt-adjusted cash flow per share, and companies that use their balance sheets wisely for high-return projects have seen growth even in tough times. On the other hand, the value factor in energy, typically measured by price-to-book, has underperformed due to unreliable book values that don't reflect the true value of assets. Instead, investors should consider net asset value using a downside price deck and sustained free cash flow from projects and toll bridges in the midstream sector. As for commodities markets, they are massive, with a global market of one million barrels a day. Major players include speculators, traders, and industries hedging input costs, such as airlines. Understanding the dynamics of these markets is crucial for investors in the energy sector.

    • Price discovery in commodities based on marginal moleculeA small imbalance between supply and demand can have a major impact on commodity markets, particularly oil. Current market struggles with impending supply surge and incentivizing storage building.

      Commodity markets, particularly oil, operate differently than other markets. Price discovery in commodities is based on the marginal molecule, meaning a small imbalance between supply and demand can have a significant impact. Physical arbitrage plays a crucial role, with participants like OPEC and midstream companies absorbing imbalances and providing logistical services. Currently, the market is grappling with an imminent onslaught of supply and is attempting to incentivize storage building. Uncertainties in the energy sector include the response of companies to the price war, potential government interference in the capital markets, and how OPEC and non-OPEC countries will react. These uncertainties could significantly impact the duration and resolution of the oversupply situation.

    • Challenges in the Energy Sector and the Need for ChangeDespite challenges, the energy sector's long-term demand remains strong. Companies prioritizing environmental responsibility and efficiency are key to a sustainable future.

      The energy sector is currently facing significant challenges, including a period of low prices and investor appetite, but there is potential for a healthier supply and demand balance in the long term. The speaker expresses skepticism about the political and economic will to support the sector through these difficult times. Energy companies have struggled to demonstrate value and create value for investors, leading to a shift in strategy that may not have made sense or been rewarded. However, the demand for oil and liquids is not going away, and efficient and clean energy production is important for both environmental reasons and future price tailwinds. The sector has been plagued by moral hazard for years, and addressing this issue will be crucial for the sector's success. Identifying winners and losers and supporting companies that prioritize environmental responsibility are key steps towards a more sustainable future for the energy industry.

    • Understanding the importance of responsible business practices in energy industrySuccessful energy companies prioritize capturing resources efficiently, minimizing environmental risks, treating employees well, and returning capital to shareholders. Neglecting these responsibilities can lead to financial consequences.

      The most successful energy companies are those that operate responsibly and efficiently. These companies prioritize capturing resources, minimizing environmental risks, treating employees well, and returning capital to shareholders. Conversely, weak companies that neglect these responsibilities often face financial consequences. The idea of moral hazard, where individuals or organizations engage in risky behavior due to the absence of negative consequences, plays a role in the industry's challenges. During periods of technological renaissance and overcapitalization, it's crucial for the market to identify the winners and losers. The energy sector is currently undergoing this process, and the most responsible and efficient organizations are expected to prevail and consolidate weaker peers. This period of investment in dispersion presents opportunities for long-term investment in the energy sector and the commodity space. Overall, it's essential to understand the importance of responsible business practices in the energy industry and their impact on long-term success.

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    My guest today is Nico Wittenborn. Nico is the founder of Adjacent, a venture firm that looks for what he describes as the “adjacent possible” for their next investment. Nico has zoned in on the consumer subscription market as his ideal candidate, making early investments in Calm App, Photoroom, and Oura Ring. Nico does virtually all steps of the investing process on his own as he believes this allows him to be as close to finding the truth as possible. We discuss sharpening your intuition, evaluating the subscription business model, and exploring the adjacent possible. Please enjoy this conversation with Nico Wittenborn.  Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:30) Intuition in Investment Decisions (00:05:08) The Philosophy of Adjacency in Venture Capital (00:12:51) Exploring Consumer Subscription Models (00:18:16) Common Mistakes In Subscription Pricing (00:22:41) Errors in Product Roll-Out Strategy (00:28:50) The Sucess of BirdBuddy (00:33:45) What It Means To Be a Great Product (00:38:21) Solo Investing vs. Being Part of a Big Firm (00:43:12) Building On Your Own Experience As a Founder (00:44:49) The Rise of Individual Investors and Their Impact (00:50:52) The Strategic Advantage of Staying Small in Venture Capital (00:52:02) Deep Dive into Founder Questions and Consumer Subscription Insights (00:54:09) Leveraging AI and Technological Advances for Growth (00:59:13) Exploring Future Investments and Market Opportunities (01:05:13) Areas to Explore On The Value Curve For Consumer Subscription  (01:12:32) Advice For Those Interest In Nico’s Path  (01:20:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Nico

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    We are excited to share a great conversation with Mitch Rales, the co-founder of Danaher and one of the living legends in the world of business and investing. Consider that Danaher has annualized at over 21% for four decades, resulting in an 1800-times multiple on invested capital! This is Mitch's first long-form interview of any kind, and he covers his entire history and business philosophy. Interviewing Mitch are Paul Buser and Rick Buhrman, who host the Art of Investing podcast on the Colossus network. Please enjoy this comprehensive discussion with Mitch Rales. Listen to more Art of Investing. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Passthrough. If you've ever filled out a subscription document to invest in a fund or worked with LPs to fill out their docs to invest in your fund, you know what a nightmare this exercise can be. Passthrough finally solves this problem. They configure custom workflows for your electronic subscription agreements and KYC & AML requirements to shrink the time for your investors to complete their sub docs. It's the best way to manage a critical part of your relationship with your LPs and is simply a drastically better experience for both investing firms and LPs alike. To learn more, go to passthrough.com. This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Art of Investing is a property of Pine Grove Studios in collaboration with Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Art of Investing, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) - Welcome to The Art of Investing (00:05:32) - The Philosophy Behind Glenstone's Creation (00:12:57) - Benchmarking and Continuous Improvement: Lessons from Danaher and Glenstone (00:21:22) - The Influence of Mitch’s Father and Upbringing (00:28:43) - Transforming Danaher During The George Sherman (00:30:39) - Embracing Long-Term Vision and Patience (00:36:47) - The Role of Leadership in Navigating Change (00:42:21) - Danaher's Evolutionary Journey: From 1.0 to 4.0 (00:56:37) - Building a Culture of Internal Growth and External Innovation (00:58:42) - The Art of Successful Acquisitions and Integration Strategies (01:03:03) - Seeking Leadership Qualities and Business Traits for Long-Term Success (01:06:14) - The Journey from Personal Experience to Philanthropy (01:13:10) - Investment Philosophy: Concentration vs. Diversification (01:29:46) - Operational Expertise as a Catalyst for Company Growth (01:34:17) - Identifying and Supporting Talent in Business (01:43:02) - The Impact of Secular Trends on Long-Term Investments (01:49:53) - Revitalizing the Washington Commanders (01:57:36) - Engaging with Fans and Building a Winning Culture (02:05:16) - The Importance of Long-Term Vision

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