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    Democrats Don’t Think They Have This Election Won

    enAugust 20, 2024
    What role does organized labor play in the Democratic Party?
    How does Kamala Harris differ from typical presidential candidates?
    What concerns do Democrats have about the election outcome?
    What are Kamala Harris's key economic platform priorities?
    How does the Democratic Party's approach to housing policy differ now?

    Podcast Summary

    • Democratic Party and Organized LaborThe Democratic National Convention in 2024 highlighted the strong relationship between the Democratic Party and organized labor, emphasizing the party's commitment to labor and populism, distinguishing it from the Republican Party's approach.

      Learning from the Democratic National Convention in 2024 is that the Democratic Party is defining itself through its relationships and actions. While the nominee, Kamala Harris, has already been selected, the convention serves as a platform for the party to showcase its values and alliances. One notable aspect is the strong relationship between the Democratic Party and organized labor, which was emphasized through the presence of union presidents during the event. This emphasis on labor and populism distinguishes the current state of the Democratic Party from the past and sets it apart from the Republican Party's efforts to court labor unions. Overall, the Democratic National Convention serves as a significant gathering for the party to unite, build connections, and showcase its priorities to the public.

    • Democratic Party UnityThe Democratic Party is bridging the divide between its progressive and moderate wings, with figures like AOC and Gina Raimondo on the same stage, and a shift from makers vs. takers to fair competition and fighting monopolies.

      The Democratic Party is showing signs of unity and bridging the divide between its progressive and moderate wings. The keynote speech by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) at the Democratic National Convention (DNC) was a standout moment, where she challenged Donald Trump's patriotism by positioning him with big business and greed, rather than ordinary Americans. The party's message has shifted from the makers vs. takers narrative to a focus on fair competition and fighting monopolies. The presence of figures like Gina Raimondo, a moderate, and AOC on the same stage underscores this unity. Joe Biden's presidency has been more progressive, and he has worked to bring progressives into his administration. The left has also moved towards the center, with Kamala Harris not running on radical policies like Medicare for all or defunding the police. Overall, the DNC demonstrated a party that has come together to present a united front against Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

    • Israeli-Palestinian Issues in Democratic PartyProtests against Kamala Harris' stance on Israel have faded as she aligns with more moderate demands, leaving those who fundamentally believe Israel is illegitimate as the remaining dissenters.

      The current division within the Democratic Party regarding Israel and Palestine is not as deeply divisive as some may have feared. Kamala Harris, known for her more liberal stance on Israeli-Palestinian issues compared to Donald Trump, has faced protests from some groups. However, many Democrats question the logic of these protests, as Harris has advocated for a ceasefire and criticized Netanyahu. The protesters' primary issue is not just a peace process but the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. With the Israeli government's recent rejection of a two-state solution, some argue that the two-state solution may be an illusion. Despite this, there is no significant appetite for a one-state solution. The protests have largely faded as Harris has aligned with more moderate demands, leaving those who fundamentally believe Israel is illegitimate as the remaining dissenters. This division is more extreme than past divisions, focusing on the question of Israel's existence rather than the peace process.

    • Democratic Party UncertaintySome Democrats express concerns about the election being a toss-up, Harris's lead in battleground states, and the potential loss of Senate control, adding to an overall sense of unease within the party

      Despite Kamala Harris seemingly pulling ahead in some polls during the DNC, there is a cautious and uncertain feeling within the Democratic Party about the election outcome. Many influential Democrats express concerns that the election is still a toss-up and that Harris might not have a safe lead in all crucial battleground states. They also worry about losing control of the Senate, which could hinder Harris's ability to push through her agenda if she wins the presidency. Some Democrats are even skeptical of the polling data, fearing that response rate bias might be overstating Harris's strength. Overall, there's a sense of unease and uncertainty within the Democratic Party about the election's outcome.

    • Democratic Party directionThe Democratic Party is in a state of flux with Joe Biden as the nominee, and Harris's candidacy is still shaping up with debates on moderation vs. populism taking place at the convention.

      The Democratic Party is in a state of flux as they prepare for the presidential campaign against Donald Trump. With Joe Biden as the nominee, there is less clarity than usual about the direction of the party and its policies. Harris, as the vice president, is still shaping her candidacy and is open to influence from various factions within the party. Some argue for moderation on key issues, while others push for a more authentic form of populism. The convention is a venue for these debates, both on the speaker's podium and behind the scenes. Harris is known for her expertise in campaigning on issues of rights, and her ability to connect with voters on these topics could be a significant advantage in the upcoming campaign. The lack of a clear policy platform for Harris and the ongoing strategic debates within the party reflect the unique challenges of the 2022 election cycle.

    • Kamala Harris's Economic PlatformKamala Harris emphasizes affordable housing and expanding the child tax credit in her economic platform, shifting focus from past Democratic housing policies and potentially increasing housing prices.

      Kamala Harris's background and experience differ from typical presidential candidates, as she comes from a legal background rather than an economic one. Her economic platform, as outlined in a recent speech, prioritizes affordable housing and expanding the child tax credit. The emphasis on housing supply and the construction of new units is a shift from past Democratic housing policies. However, the feasibility of her housing policies and potential unintended consequences, such as increased housing prices, remain open questions. The expanded child tax credit, a policy she championed in the Senate, aligns with the Biden administration's actions. Overall, Harris can be considered a mainstream Democrat with a strong focus on constitutional rights, law and order, and issues like voting rights, reproductive rights, and criminal justice.

    • Biden's economic prioritiesBiden's focus on housing affordability and expanding child tax credit resonates with many, especially low-income families. His speech during the DNC was emotionally impactful and his accomplishments as president have strengthened the Democratic Party.

      Joe Biden's economic policies, specifically his focus on housing affordability and expanding the child tax credit, aligns with the priorities of many, particularly those looking to support families, especially low-income ones. The speaker also appreciated Biden's speech during the Democratic National Convention, acknowledging its emotional impact, but expressing a preference for the more positive and unifying tone seen in other speakers. The speaker also highlighted Biden's accomplishments as president, including his role in building a strong and united Democratic Party, and noted that the party is in a better position than it was after previous Democratic presidencies.

    • Biden's legacy with unionsJoe Biden's deep connection with unions shaped his presidency and Democratic Party leadership, evident in his past labor activism and the party's celebration of this legacy.

      Learning from this episode of "Hazel and Wiz" is that Joe Biden's legacy as a Democratic leader extends beyond his presidency to his deep connection with unions and his role in rebuilding the Democratic Party. Biden's involvement in labor issues was highlighted, including his past participation in picket lines, and the night's celebration reflected the Democratic Party that he has redesigned. This legacy was not explicitly stated, but it was evident throughout the event. The show was produced by Roland Hu, with contributions from Michelle Harris, Kate Sinclair, Mary March Locker, Jeff Geld, Amman Sahota, Claire Gordon, Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith, Kristen Lin, Isaac Jones, Christina Saniewski, Shannon Busta, and Annie Rose Strasser.

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