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    Demographic Shifts: Will Population Ageing Derail Stock Returns?

    enJanuary 03, 2024

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    • Demographic shift impacting investment returnsThe aging population is reducing the workforce and increasing dependency ratio, leading to economic challenges and potential investment risks. To maintain growth, productivity must increase and each worker must produce more per hour.

      The aging population could significantly impact investment returns due to a shrinking workforce and a larger dependency ratio. This shift from a demographic dividend to a dependency burden could lead to economic challenges as fewer workers support a larger population of retirees and children. Historically, population growth and a larger working-age population have contributed to GDP growth, but now, with the baby boomer generation entering retirement, the trend is reversing. This demographic change has already been observed in the west, but in countries like China, it's happening within our lifetimes. To maintain positive GDP growth, productivity must increase, and each worker must produce more per hour. The economy's structure has also changed, moving from a rural agrarian society to an urban industrial one, with fewer children and longer lifespans. This shift has brought about significant improvements in quality of life, but it also presents new challenges for the economy and our investments.

    • Demographic Shift: An Aging Global PopulationThe global population is aging, leading to a shrinking labor force and increased dependency ratios, requiring adjustments in areas like retirement savings, healthcare, and pensions. China, with its aging population and low fertility rates, is particularly affected.

      The global population is expected to grow older, leading to a shrinking labor force and increased dependency ratios. This demographic shift, which is already underway, could have significant economic implications and may require adjustments in areas such as retirement savings, healthcare, and pensions. China, which has experienced rapid urbanization and integration into the global economy, is particularly affected by this trend due to its aging population and low fertility rates. The transition to a more stable global population may be bumpy, and planning for it requires setting aside current consumption for future needs. Despite the challenges, there are opportunities for countries with younger populations, as they may become a source of labor and immigration in the future. The global population, currently around 7.8 billion, is expected to reach almost 11 billion by the end of the century, but the percentage of working-age individuals will decrease significantly. This demographic shift is a predictable trend, yet planning for it is difficult as it requires sacrificing present consumption for future needs.

    • Global Population Aging: Challenges and OpportunitiesThe aging global population raises concerns about productivity and financial burden, but older people can still contribute to the economy if they remain productive. The IMF warns a lack of resources could negatively impact the quality of life for older generations.

      The global population is aging due to declining fertility rates and increased longevity. This trend is affecting all countries, with high-income countries having a fertility rate below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman. The aging population raises concerns about productivity and the financial burden of supporting older generations, particularly in areas like healthcare and pensions. The good news is that older people can still contribute to the economy if they remain productive. However, the IMF warns that a lack of resources could lead to a decline in the quality of life for older people. The trend of an aging population is not a new issue, but it is important to address the challenges it presents to ensure the well-being of future generations.

    • The Aging Population: A Global ChallengeBy 2050, over 2 billion people will be over 60 in LMICs, potentially subtracting 0.8% from GDP growth for OECD countries. Solutions include making older people productive, using robots, or increasing migration.

      As the global population ages, particularly in low and middle income countries, the economic impact could be significant. By 2050, it's estimated that over 2 billion people will be over 60 years old, and 2/3 of them will be living in low and middle income countries. This aging population will have a negative impact on economic growth, potentially subtracting 0.8 percentage points from GDP per capita growth for OECD countries between 2020 and 2050. This has implications for asset prices, including long-term yields, which are driven by nominal GDP growth. To mitigate this demographic drag, solutions could include making older people more productive, using robots to replace older workers, or increasing migration. Ultimately, something will need to replace the declining labor force to maintain current standards of living. However, it's important to note that the research on this topic is challenging as we've never experienced a situation where working age populations are falling before. While historical trends may suggest a reversal, it's possible that the demographic drag could be a one-way effect. The black death, which caused a significant labor shortage in the past, led to higher wages and social changes. Similarly, the current demographic shift could lead to significant economic and social changes.

    • Impact of aging population and shrinking workforce on investment returnsThe aging population and shrinking workforce in the western world could lead to uncertainty in investment returns, with potential for deflation or inflation, and technological advancements may help offset some of these challenges but their full impact is yet to be seen.

      The aging population and shrinking workforce in the western world could significantly impact investment returns, particularly in equities. The historical trend of increasing populations contributing to stock market growth is being challenged, and it's uncertain whether an aging population will lead to deflation or inflation. Technological advancements, such as artificial intelligence and robotics, may help increase productivity and offset some of these challenges, but their full impact is yet to be seen. Ultimately, the future of investments will depend on how these demographic and technological trends intersect and evolve. It's important for investors to stay informed and adapt to these changes as they unfold.

    • The relationship between economic growth rates and stock returns is not clear-cutResearch suggesting an aging population leads to lower stock prices due to net selling may not be statistically robust, as older generations may not sell their stocks in retirement and own a significant portion of wealth in stocks and mutual funds

      The relationship between economic growth rates and stock returns is not clear-cut, and research suggesting a correlation between a aging population and lower price-to-earnings ratios may not be statistically robust. The argument behind this theory is that younger people, who are more likely to be net buyers of stocks, outnumber older people, who are more likely to be net sellers, leading to more money flowing into the stock market. However, this assumption may not hold true as older generations are accumulating significant wealth and may not sell their stocks in retirement. Additionally, older people own a large portion of the wealth in stocks and mutual funds in the US, making it crucial that they do not sell en masse to avoid negatively impacting stock prices. Therefore, the notion that an aging population will lead to significant net selling of stocks may not be accurate.

    • Demographic shifts may not significantly impact stock market P/E ratiosEfficient markets likely have priced in demographic trends, making it difficult for thematic ETFs to outperform, instead focus on sectors catering to retirees' needs

      The argument suggesting demographic shifts, specifically the transfer of wealth from older to younger generations, leading to a fall in the price-to-earnings ratio of the stock market, may not hold up. This is because the impact of demographic trends on asset demand is predictable, and efficient markets should already have anticipated and priced in these changes. Furthermore, it's challenging for investors to profit from these demographic shifts through thematic ETFs, as these funds may not outperform due to widespread recognition of the aging population trend. Instead, investors might consider focusing on sectors and companies that cater to the needs and interests of retirees, such as wealth management, healthcare, and travel.

    • Investment landscape shifting towards wealth managementConsider demographic shifts for portfolio tilts, but be wary of overpriced thematic ETFs. Politics and social implications also important.

      The investment landscape is shifting towards wealth management and away from risky derivative activities. The speaker suggests that thematic ETFs, which aim to capitalize on specific trends, may not be worth the investment due to potential overpricing. However, demographic shifts, such as population growth in emerging markets and potential migration, could offer opportunities for portfolio tilts. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of considering the political and social implications of demographic changes, such as migration and population growth, on capital markets and economic growth. Ultimately, the speaker believes that capital markets will eventually spread to all corners of the globe, which could have significant implications for population dynamics and economic growth.

    • The Evolution of Retirement: From Family Care to Institutionalized SystemRetirement as a complete stoppage of work is a modern concept that has evolved from family care to a formal institutionalized system, shaped by societal and economic factors.

      The concept of retirement as we know it today, with the expectation to stop working completely, is a relatively modern concept. Before the introduction of pensions in the UK in the late 1800s and early 1900s, taking care of elderly family members was the norm, and there was no formal retirement system. The cultural shift towards institutionalized retirement came with the introduction of state pensions, which were initially only for those aged 70 and above and required good character. Over time, the state pension age was lowered, and the pension system became more comprehensive and contributory. However, the increasing number of retirees and their longer life expectancy have put a strain on the state pension system, leading to ongoing changes and debates about its sustainability. Despite this, many retirees continue to work in some capacity due to personal fulfillment and financial needs. In essence, the idea of retirement as a complete stoppage of work is an evolving concept that has been shaped by societal and economic factors.

    • Reconsidering Generosities in Healthcare and PensionsMeasures like eliminating the triple lock, increasing retirement age, and making pension benefits means-tested could make healthcare and pension programs more financially sustainable, but may face resistance.

      As the state takes on more financial responsibilities for healthcare and pensions, some generosities may need to be reconsidered. This could include measures like getting rid of the triple lock and potentially increasing the retirement age. Another controversial suggestion is making pension benefits means-tested, meaning only those who truly need it would receive it. These changes could help make these programs more financially sustainable, but they would likely be met with resistance. Despite the potential for controversy, the speaker argues for the benefits of universal pension benefits and will save that argument for another time. The conversation emphasizes the need to consider the financial implications of these programs as the population ages and life expectancies increase.

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