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    Diabetology (BLOOD SUGAR) Part 2 with Dr. Mike Natter, MD

    en-usJanuary 28, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding Diabetes with Dr. Mike NaderDr. Mike Nader, a diabetologist and type 1 diabetic, discussed the complexities of diabetes, insulin, and pancreatic matters, emphasizing the importance of education and open dialogue in managing health conditions. He also advocated for insulin affordability on World Diabetes Day.

      Diabetes, like many health conditions, can be better understood through knowledge and open dialogue. In this episode of Ologies, the topic of diabetology continued with Part 2, addressing various questions about blood sugar, insulin, and pancreatic matters. Dr. Mike Nader, a physician and type 1 diabetic, shared his insights, making the complex topic more accessible. He even spoke about advocating for insulin affordability on World Diabetes Day. The episode was recorded with editor Stephen Ray Morris and Jarrett Sleeper, and Dr. Nader expressed his desire to meet them in person. The episode contained several Patreon questions, and one interesting revelation was that stress can impact blood glucose levels differently for different people. Some may experience high levels due to stress-activated HPA axis, while others, like Dr. Nader, may experience low levels. Overall, the episode emphasized the importance of education and open dialogue in managing health conditions.

    • The body's stress response and diabetesChronic stress can lead to high blood sugar levels and potential long-term damage, increasing the risk of diabetes. Regular checks and management are crucial.

      The body's stress response, triggered by the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis, leads to the release of hormones like adrenaline and cortisol. These hormones prepare the body for a fight or flight response by increasing heart rate, blood flow, and glycogen breakdown for energy. However, when there's no outlet for this energy, as in chronic stress, the body can experience negative effects such as high blood sugar levels and potential long-term damage to tissues. Diabetes, a disease characterized by high blood sugar levels, is a potential consequence of chronic stress and poor management of blood sugar. The record for the highest and lowest blood sugar levels in a living person is unknown. Wilford Brimley, a diabetic actor, encourages people, especially those over 50, to get checked for diabetes and not be afraid of it.

    • Understanding Diabetes: Genetics and EnvironmentDiabetes has a genetic component but is also influenced by environment. A normal A1C range is 4-5.5%. Low or high blood sugar levels can impact health. Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease with a higher risk for fathers to pass it on to sons.

      Diabetes, whether type 1 or type 2, has a genetic component but is also influenced by environmental factors. A one c, a three-month average of your blood sugar levels, can give an idea of your blood sugar control, with a normal range being between 4 and 5.5%. Low blood sugar levels can still indicate life, while high levels can lead to serious health complications. Type 1 diabetes is considered an autoimmune disease and has a higher likelihood of being passed on from fathers to sons, although the exact mechanism is not yet fully understood. It's important to note that genetics only loads the gun, and environment pulls the trigger. Additionally, having a family member with diabetes increases the chances of developing the condition, but it is not a guarantee.

    • Family history and childhood exposure to pathogens can influence autoimmune disease riskHaving a first-degree relative with an autoimmune disease increases your risk. Lack of childhood exposure to certain pathogens may also contribute. Prediabetes is a warning sign for diabetes with a hemoglobin A1c level between 5.7 and 6.4%.

      Having a first-degree relative with an autoimmune disease increases your risk of developing one yourself. Additionally, there is a theory called the hygiene hypothesis which suggests that lack of exposure to certain pathogens during childhood could contribute to the development of autoimmune diseases. Prediabetes is a warning sign before developing diabetes, and being prediabetic means having a hemoglobin A1c level between 5.7 and 6.4%. If you're in this range, it's important to find out why and consider lifestyle changes to prevent progression to diabetes. While I cannot provide individual medical advice, I can suggest that you work with your healthcare provider to determine the best course of action for you.

    • Identifying Diabetes with Autoimmunity MarkersAutoimmunity markers like anti-GAD65 and anti-C peptide can help diagnose insulin-dependent type 1 diabetes. Lifestyle changes and weight loss surgery can prevent or reverse type 2 diabetes, while its cause is now linked to saturated fats and processed meats.

      While fasting glucose and hemoglobin A1c levels are important indicators of diabetes, there are also markers for autoimmunity that can help identify insulin-dependent type 1 diabetes. These markers include anti-GAD65 and anti-C peptide, which indicate the immune system's attack on insulin or beta cells in the pancreas. For those most at risk for type 2 diabetes, lifestyle changes such as weight loss and diet modifications, and in some cases, weight loss surgery, can help halt or reverse the condition. The pathogenesis of type 2 diabetes is now believed to be less about carbohydrate intake and more about saturated fats and processed meats, which cause inflammation and lipotoxicity, leading to insulin resistance and high blood sugar levels. In summary, understanding both the traditional markers and the underlying causes of diabetes can help in early identification and effective management of the condition.

    • Maintaining a Balanced Diet for Overall Health and Avoiding Insulin ResistanceMaintain a balanced diet, focus on central adiposity, and enjoy occasional indulgences for optimal health and avoiding insulin resistance.

      Maintaining a balanced diet is essential for overall health and avoiding insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. Insulin resistance occurs when the body's insulin receptors, typically found in fat cells and skeletal muscle, become less responsive to insulin, making it harder for glucose to enter the cells. This condition can lead to various health issues, including heart attacks, strokes, hypertension, and diabetes. BMI, a common measure of body fat based on height and weight, is not always an accurate indicator of health, as it doesn't account for factors like muscle mass and body composition. Instead, doctors should focus on central adiposity, or the accumulation of fat around the waist, which is a better indicator of health risks. In essence, enjoying occasional indulgences while maintaining a balanced diet and focusing on overall health is a more effective approach than focusing solely on weight or body image.

    • Exercise helps manage blood sugar levels for diabeticsRegular exercise enhances the body's sensitivity to insulin, reducing insulin requirements for fit individuals, but may not eliminate the need for supplementation.

      Exercise plays a significant role in managing blood sugar levels for both Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics, even without the use of exogenous insulin. The body's response to insulin during exercise is more sensitive, allowing glucose to enter the cells and be used for energy. This can lead to a reduction in insulin requirements for those who are physically fit and active regularly. However, it's important to note that this effect may not last indefinitely, and individuals may still require insulin supplementation. Additionally, reactive hypoglycemia, a condition where blood sugar levels drop after a meal, does not necessarily mean an individual will develop diabetes later in life. Instead, it's a separate condition that can be managed through diet and lifestyle modifications.

    • Reactive hypoglycemia vs Gestational diabetesReactive hypoglycemia: Overproduction of insulin causes excess glucose, symptoms include sleepiness, crankiness, blurry vision, and cravings. Treatment: Frequent small meals. Gestational diabetes: Hormonal changes cause hyperglycemia, risk for mother and child. Treatment: Keep blood sugars tightly controlled.

      Reactive hypoglycemia occurs when the body produces too much insulin in response to sugar or carbs, leading to excess glucose in the bloodstream and resulting in symptoms like sleepiness, crankiness, blurry vision, and cravings for more carbs. The recommended treatment is frequent small meals consisting of complex carbs, vegetables, fiber, proteins, and good fats. Gestational diabetes, on the other hand, is caused by hormonal changes during pregnancy that create a hyperglycemic state in the mother, making it essential for pregnant women with gestational or type 1 diabetes to keep their blood sugars tightly controlled to prevent negative impacts on the child. The endocrine system and placenta are believed to be the causes, but the exact reasons are not fully understood. Women with gestational diabetes have a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes later in life. The keto diet, while popular for treating diabetes, is not empirically proven to be more effective than a plant-based diet, and extreme diets that cut out major food groups can be dangerous and difficult to sustain.

    • Plant-based Diets Promote Better Health for Diabetics and PetsA plant-based diet rich in greens, beans, lentils, and other whole foods can promote better health for diabetics and pets, potentially reducing the risk of type 2 diabetes. Diabetic alert dogs can provide assistance to their owners, but continuous glucose monitors offer more accurate readings.

      While a strict keto or Atkins-type diet, which involves consuming large amounts of meats and saturated fats, may help some people, it could potentially increase the risk of type 2 diabetes. A plant-based diet, rich in greens, beans, lentils, and other foods that grow from the ground, has been shown to promote better diabetic, cardiovascular, and overall health. Dogs and cats can also develop diabetes, and diabetic alert dogs are trained to detect changes in their owners' breath, likely due to the presence of specific compounds. These dogs can provide valuable assistance to their owners, even if they occasionally give false alarms. Continuous glucose monitors offer more reliable and accurate readings but lack the fuzzy companionship of a diabetic alert dog. The future may hold the development of low sugar breathalyzers for detecting changes in glucose levels. Artificial sweeteners and insulin are other topics related to diabetes management, but they were not extensively discussed in the conversation.

    • Sweet Taste of Diet Sodas May Lead to Increased CravingsWhile diet sodas may not directly affect insulin response, their sweet taste could potentially increase cravings for sweets due to caloric expectation.

      While both regular and diet sodas are harmful due to their contents and potential health risks, the theory suggests that consuming diet sodas may lead to increased cravings for sweets due to the expectation of caloric intake based on the sweet taste. Regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response, research is limited, and it's unclear if they significantly impact blood sugar levels. In an emergency situation involving someone with diabetes, it's crucial to call 911 and, if possible, determine whether their blood sugar is low or high. If they're experiencing low blood sugar, never attempt to feed them sugary substances, and instead, help them use their glucagon kit if available.

    • Using cake frosting as a potential solution during a hypoglycemic emergencyAdvancements in diabetes management include discreet insulin pumps and smaller, faster glucometers, making diabetes care more accessible and convenient.

      During a hypoglycemic emergency, if you don't have access to glucagon or insulin, using cake frosting to absorb sugar through the mucosal layer inside the cheek can potentially keep someone alive until paramedics arrive. This method is only recommended for suspected hypoglycemia. For those with diabetes who use technology like insulin pumps and monitors, these advancements have significantly improved diabetes management compared to the archaic methods from the past. Insulin pumps, which deliver rapid-acting insulin, have become more discreet and convenient, while glucometers have become smaller, faster, and require less blood. These advancements have made managing diabetes more accessible and easier for individuals.

    • Advances in diabetes technologyTechnologies like CGMs and insulin pumps offer real-time data and automated insulin delivery, but affordability remains a challenge for insulin

      Advances in diabetes technology, such as continuous glucose monitors (CGMs) and insulin pumps, are revolutionizing the way people with diabetes manage their condition. These technologies provide real-time data and automated insulin delivery, reducing the need for constant guesswork and improving overall blood sugar control. However, affordability remains a significant issue, with insulin being expensive and some people resorting to using animal insulin or other unconventional methods. It's important to remember the history of insulin, which was discovered by Frederick Banting in 1921 and sold to the University of Toronto for just $1, with the belief that it should always be accessible to those who need it. Today, efforts continue to make insulin more affordable and accessible to all.

    • Insulin affordability crisisThe high cost of insulin, driven by monopolistic practices, is causing preventable deaths among people with type 1 diabetes. WHO's efforts to produce cheaper insulin are a temporary solution, and government intervention is needed to make insulin accessible and affordable for all.

      The high cost of insulin, driven by a lack of competition and proprietary patents among a few major pharmaceutical companies, is leading to insulin rationing and preventable deaths among people with type 1 diabetes. The World Health Organization is taking steps to encourage the production of cheaper insulin to undercut these companies and reduce prices. However, this is not a sustainable solution for many people with diabetes, particularly those without insurance or limited financial resources. The situation is especially concerning because insulin is not a medication, but rather a hormone that people with type 1 diabetes depend on to survive. The situation calls for government intervention to address the inflation and make insulin more accessible and affordable for all. In the meantime, people without insurance may be forced to explore alternative, potentially dangerous options to obtain necessary medications.

    • Focus on lifestyle changes for diabetes managementFor people with diabetes, focusing on weight loss, exercise, and healthy food choices can lead to significant improvements in management, even reversal in some cases. Sustainable lifestyle changes are key.

      For people with diabetes, particularly type 2, the most important thing they can do is focus on lifestyle changes, specifically weight loss and exercise. These changes can lead to significant improvements in diabetes management, even leading to reversal of the condition in some cases. However, it's not always easy to make these changes, and individual circumstances require tailored strategies. Medications can be considered as a last resort, but focusing on food choices and finding substitutions for unhealthy food habits are often the best starting points. Small steps, such as walking instead of taking the subway or elevator, can lead to big results for those who are otherwise sedentary. Ultimately, the goal is to find sustainable ways to make healthy choices a part of daily life.

    • Overcoming addictions and diabetes advancementsBreaking addictions can improve overall health, diabetes treatments are advancing with new technologies and a multidisciplinary approach, and researchers are working towards a potential cure.

      Breaking free from addictive habits, whether it's consuming unhealthy beverages or foods, or unhealthy relationships, can lead to significant improvements in overall health and well-being. However, the process of overcoming addiction can be challenging, and the benefits may not be immediately apparent. Regarding medical advancements, there have been significant strides in treating diabetes, including pancreas transplants and innovative technologies like the bionic pancreas project. While a cure for diabetes may not be imminent, researchers are making progress in understanding the complexities of the disease and developing new treatments. Another promising development is the creation of an implantable continuous glucose monitor, which will eliminate the need for frequent replacements and offer greater convenience and flexibility for individuals with diabetes. The clinical care of diabetes is also evolving, with a growing recognition of the importance of a multidisciplinary team approach, including the roles of clinical diabetes educators, nurses, dietitians, nutritionists, and therapists. In summary, while there are still challenges to overcome in the treatment and management of diabetes, there is reason for optimism with the ongoing research and technological advancements in the field.

    • Promising diabetes treatment through stem cell research but protecting new cells from immune attack is a challengeStem cell research offers potential for treating type 1 diabetes, but protecting new cells from immune attack remains a significant hurdle. CRISPR technology is intriguing but unlikely to be a single solution due to diabetes' complexity.

      Stem cell research holds great promise for the potential treatment of type 1 diabetes through the growth of functional beta cells in a lab. However, the challenge lies in protecting these new cells from being attacked by the patient's immune system. Research is ongoing to find solutions, such as encapsulating the cells in protective capsules. While CRISPR technology is intriguing, the complexity of diabetes as a condition, which can be influenced by both genetic and environmental factors, makes a single gene solution unlikely. The speaker, a diabetologist, expresses frustration with the business aspects of medicine and the constant demands of managing diabetes for patients. Despite these challenges, the rewarding connections with patients keep him committed to the field.

    • Navigating Emotional Challenges in HealthcareHealthcare professionals can feel emotionally drained during challenging rotations, but the potential to make a difference in patients' lives makes it worthwhile. Practical tips include crying efficiently in the shower or finding private spots. Gratitude for experiences and personal connections can help cope with emotional weight.

      Working in the medical field, especially during challenging rotations, can be emotionally taxing. However, the potential to make a significant impact on patients' lives makes it all worthwhile for many healthcare professionals. The speaker shared his experiences on an oncology rotation, where he felt privileged to help patients and their families during their most vulnerable moments. Yet, the emotional weight of these experiences often leads to tears and the need for release. The speaker shared some practical tips for crying at the hospital, from efficient crying in the shower to more private spots like the top of stairwells. Despite the challenges, the speaker expressed gratitude for his experiences, including how his own diabetes diagnosis led him to medicine and brought him closer to understanding and connecting with other patients.

    • The importance of empathy and knowledge in healthcare settings for those with complex health conditionsEmpathy and knowledge are essential when communicating with healthcare professionals about complex health conditions. Patients can feel more comfortable and understood when they share experiences and ask questions, leading to better outcomes and improved understanding.

      Effective communication and understanding are crucial when dealing with complex health conditions, especially for those who live with them daily. During a conversation on the Diabetology episode of the Ologies podcast, a guest shared an experience where a healthcare professional took her pump during a hospitalization, leaving her feeling uncomfortable and uncertain about her care. However, when another guest, who also has diabetes, reassured her and shared her own experiences, the guest felt comforted and understood. This exchange highlights the importance of empathy and knowledge in healthcare settings, especially when dealing with conditions that require specialized care and attention. As the podcast host humorously reminded listeners, asking questions and advocating for oneself can lead to better outcomes and improved understanding. Additionally, the episode touched on various hormonal treatments and their potential side effects, emphasizing the importance of open communication between patients and healthcare providers.

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    Mustard gossip. Knotweed recipes. Cow parsnips. Serviceberry appreciation. Hogweed warnings. Dead man’s fingers. The incredibly knowledgeable and entertaining Alexis Nikole Nelson a.k.a. @BlackForager walks us through Foraging Ecology with a ginormous bushel of tips & tricks for finding edibles at all times of the year, from blossoms to fungus. Belly up for this encore detailing invasive snacks, elusive mushrooms, magnolia cookies, mugwort potatoes, violet cocktails, foraging guides, weed trivia and tips to avoid poisonous berries. Also: finding community, history, land stewardship and why foraging is important, empowering and quite tasty.

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    Columbidology (PIGEONS? YES) Part 2 with Rosemary Mosco

    Columbidology (PIGEONS? YES) Part 2 with Rosemary Mosco

    The thrilling conclusion of PIGEONS, with Columbidologist and author Rosemary Mosco of Bird and Moon comics. It’s wall-to-wall listener questions and you’ll hear all about bonded pairs, the fate of the extinct passenger pigeon, the best cinematic pigeons, how to help their nubby feet, gender reveals gone very wrong, Las Vegas mysteries to boil your blood, and so much more. Also: did I just see a wedding bird escapee?

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