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    Did Trump's Iowa win change anything?

    enJanuary 17, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Donald Trump's dominance in Iowa caucusesTrump's strong showing in Iowa, including urban areas, and near-united Republican support, suggest he's on track for the nomination. Haley's exit and DeSantis's strong showing further solidify this.

      Donald Trump's dominance in the Iowa caucuses, particularly in urban areas, indicates he is on track to secure the Republican nomination. Nikki Haley's third-place finish and refusal to debate anyone but Trump or Biden further solidifies this. Ron DeSantis's strong showing in second place in some areas also highlights Trump's broad appeal within the Republican Party. The Republican Party's near-united support for Trump, despite his autocratic tendencies, is a concerning development for many. The Polk County results, where Trump won with an 11-point lead, were the biggest landslide in Iowa caucus history, and Trump won in every demographic group. The only silver lining is that the turnout was strong, but still relatively small, and Trump only won with a small margin in some areas.

    • Iowa Caucus: Decreased Voter Turnout, Older Voters Support Trump, Younger Voters FlatOlder Republicans showed significant support for Trump, while younger voters remained flat in the Iowa caucus. Trump's base remains loyal, but there's a lack of excitement and potential lag in Biden's polling numbers among undecided voters.

      The Iowa caucus results showed a decrease in voter turnout compared to 2016, with no evidence of an influx of new, excited voters for Donald Trump. Instead, older voters showed significant support for Trump, while younger voters remained flat. Additionally, Nikki Haley voters expressed strong dislike for Trump and openness to voting for Joe Biden. These findings suggest a lack of excitement within the Republican base and potential lag in Biden's polling numbers among undecided voters. Furthermore, the anti-Trump energy at Haley's victory speech and the enthusiasm of young Republicans for Trump indicate that while Trump may not be bringing in new, excited young voters, he is maintaining support among his base.

    • The political landscape has changed, with a move towards more working-class, non-coastal supporters in Republican partiesFocus on building a strong online presence and engaging with supporters through digital channels for potential 2028 Republican candidates

      The political landscape has shifted significantly, particularly in the context of Republican parties in places like New York. The demographics and attitudes of attendees at Republican events have changed, with a move towards more working-class, non-coastal supporters. The era of anxious, closeted gay libertarians and Wall Street types meeting up on the Upper East Side may be over. Additionally, the nationalization of politics and the way people consume news and information have made early state campaigning and traditional forms of retail politics less effective. The success of candidates like Donald Trump, who relied on celebrity and a cult-like following, has upended conventional wisdom about what it takes to win a presidential primary. If advising a potential 2028 candidate, it would be recommended to focus on building a strong online presence and engaging with supporters through digital channels, rather than relying on traditional early state campaigning.

    • The effectiveness of traditional campaign tactics questionedIn today's presidential races, traditional campaign tactics like door-to-door canvassing and 30-second TV ads may not be as effective, especially for unique figures like Donald Trump. Retail politics, or face-to-face voter connection, remains important, but adapting to the changing political landscape is crucial.

      Traditional campaign tactics, such as door-to-door canvassing and 30-second TV ads, may not be as effective in today's presidential races, especially when dealing with unique figures like Donald Trump. The importance of retail politics, or connecting with voters face-to-face, was questioned during the discussion, as some candidates, like Ron DeSantis, struggled to communicate effectively with voters. The Democratic side in 2020, with Joe Biden's electability and nuanced decision-making by voters, was highlighted as an example. The canceled ABC GOP debate in New Hampshire, with Nikki Haley's demand for Trump or Biden to participate, was seen as an opportunity missed for all candidates, including DeSantis, who criticized Haley for being afraid to debate him. Overall, the conversation emphasized the evolving nature of political campaigns and the need for candidates to adapt to the changing landscape.

    • Criticisms of DeSantis and Haley's Primary Debate StrategiesDeSantis faced criticism for debating a low-polling opponent instead of focusing on Trump, while Haley was criticized for skipping debates and holding town halls. Haley was urged to show more emotion and urgency to connect with voters.

      During a discussion about the importance of the New Hampshire primary debates, it was expressed that some candidates, such as Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, have questionable strategies. DeSantis was criticized for debating a low-polling opponent instead of focusing on Trump, while Haley was criticized for skipping debates and holding town halls instead. It was suggested that Haley, in particular, needed to do something more to gain traction in New Hampshire, where she lost badly in the previous contest. The speaker also expressed a preference for candidates showing more emotion and urgency, suggesting that Haley could consider crying during her campaign to connect with voters. Overall, the debate participation and strategies of these candidates were seen as important factors in their chances of success in the New Hampshire primary.

    • Nikki Haley's electability argument against Trump may not resonate with undeclared voters in New HampshireDespite spending $50 million on ads, Nikki Haley's argument that she's a more electable Republican candidate than Trump may not convince undeclared voters in New Hampshire due to their belief that Trump won the 2020 election and Republican voters' loyalty to him.

      Nikki Haley's electability argument against Donald Trump may not be a strong one, especially among undeclared voters in New Hampshire. While Haley has made this argument in her speeches and ads, many undeclared voters are still unsure if they prefer her over Biden. Additionally, Republican voters in New Hampshire still believe that Trump won the 2020 election, making it difficult for Haley to make an electability argument against him. The $50 million spent on TV ads by Haley and DeSantis could have been more effectively used in a campaign reminding voters that Trump lost in 2020 and that they are both winners. If such a campaign had been run, it could have potentially swayed voters towards Haley and DeSantis.

    • Nikki Haley's Longshot Bid to Upset Trump in 2024Nikki Haley believes winning New Hampshire could change the dynamic of the 2024 Republican primary, but some view it as a longshot theory for accruing delegates.

      The 2024 Republican primary race remains volatile, with Nikki Haley relying on a fanciful theory that defeating Donald Trump will somehow change the dynamic of the race in her favor. Despite losing to Ron DeSantis in Iowa, Haley believes that winning New Hampshire could puncture Trump's armor of invincibility and persuade undeclared voters and Democrats to cross over. However, this theory is seen as a preposterous fantasy by some, and the real significance of winning New Hampshire may be in accruing delegates for potential horse-trading at the convention. Ultimately, the race remains uncertain, with Trump's invincibility still a significant factor.

    • Ron Paul secretly wants Hailey to win in New HampshireRon Paul hopes Hailey's win could end his campaign, while Sanders team sees potential in a Hailey loss to keep Bernie in the race until South Carolina. Biden's weaknesses and Trump's legal issues may impact the race, but low Biden approval and declining Trump approval could also play a role.

      The Sanders team hopes for a Hailey loss in New Hampshire to keep Bernie in the race until South Carolina, but Ron Paul secretly wants Hailey to win to end his campaign's grueling march to South Carolina. The campaign between New Hampshire and South Carolina is a long and painful process, and the pressure on Ron Paul to drop out will be immense. Meanwhile, many Americans, including Biden supporters, are not yet fully aware that a Trump-Biden rematch is on the horizon. Biden's weaknesses as an older incumbent are present, while Trump's dangers to democracy and potential legal issues are more perspective. The return of Trump as the nominee could potentially wake up Democrats and bring back drifting voters. However, the most optimistic case is that a low Biden approval rating may not matter if Trump's approval rating continues to decline.

    • 2024 Presidential Race: Challenges for Biden and TrumpBoth Biden and Trump face challenges in the 2024 presidential race, with Biden needing to address perceived weaknesses and maintain appeal, and Trump requiring a normal, disciplined image to regain voter trust. Key figures may play pivotal roles in persuading voters and highlighting unacceptable past actions.

      The 2024 presidential race between potential candidates Joe Biden and Donald Trump presents uncertainties and challenges for both sides. Biden faces the challenge of addressing his perceived weaknesses and maintaining his appeal, while Trump must prove he can appear normal and disciplined enough to regain the trust of voters. The success of each campaign hinges on their ability to mitigate these liabilities and persuade voters to overlook their past actions and perceived shortcomings. Key figures like Mike Pence, Chris Christie, John Kelly, and Jim Mattis may play crucial roles in persuading voters and highlighting the unacceptability of Trump's past actions. Ultimately, the success of both campaigns will depend on their ability to effectively communicate their messages and overcome the challenges posed by their opponents.

    • Legal jeopardy and political viabilityDonald Trump's legal issues could impact his political future by swaying voters and raising questions about his strategic decision-making, potentially deterring him from running again or eroding public trust.

      The legal jeopardy facing Donald Trump could significantly impact his political viability in upcoming elections. Despite his history of attacking opponents in court, the ongoing trials and potential convictions may sway voters, particularly those who view being convicted as a disqualifier. Trump's focus on legal battles instead of campaigning raises questions about his strategic decision-making and may further erode public trust. The optimistic view is that this could deter him from running again, but given his unpredictable nature, it remains to be seen. The high percentage of voters who would not support a convicted Trump adds to the potential threat, making the legal issues a significant factor in future elections.

    • Florida Governor Ron DeSantis positions himself as an outsider against perceived elitesDeSantis' outsider image resonates with GOP base but may not appeal to general election voters. Divisiveness within the party over Trump's candidacy and ongoing legal battles highlight media's influence on public opinion and political process.

      Florida Governor Ron DeSantis sees himself as an outsider taking on perceived elites, using his image as a businessman and outsider to appeal to the Republican base. This strategy has been successful within the party but may not translate well to the general election. The recent endorsement of Donald Trump by Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, despite earlier criticisms, was met with anger and disappointment by some, highlighting the divisiveness within the Republican Party. The lack of significant challenges to Trump's candidacy is a source of frustration for some, with Nikki Haley being seen as a more viable alternative. The ongoing defamation case against Trump also highlights the role of media and public opinion in shaping perceptions of the judiciary and the political process.

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