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    E1145: Emergency Pod! Salesforce is reportedly acquiring Slack: winners, losers, ramifications & more!

    en-usDecember 01, 2020

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    • Salesforce to Acquire Slack and Invest in Promising StartupsSalesforce is acquiring Slack, expanding its enterprise computing portfolio, while RCloud offers investors access to promising startups like Tevel for affordable investments.

      Salesforce is set to announce its acquisition of Slack on December 1, 2020, making it one of the top companies in enterprise computing under Salesforce's umbrella. This comes after Salesforce's acquisition of Tableau in 2019. For investors, RCloud offers an opportunity to invest in promising private companies and startups like Tevel, an ag-industry innovator, early on. Tevel uses AI-powered flying robots to help mitigate the global shortage of fruit pickers while offering cost savings. This acquisition may be a disappointment for some Slack shareholders who believed in the company's independence, but Slack's inability to grow quickly and compete with Microsoft Teams may have forced the decision. The deal is expected to be worth approximately 10% of Salesforce's enterprise value, around $17 to $25 billion. RCloud provides accredited investors access to potential investments in unique companies like Tevel for as little as $10,000.

    • Slack's Slow Development and Confusing Features Hindering GrowthDespite impressive revenue, Slack's slow development and confusing features have hindered its growth, allowing Microsoft Teams to gain ground in the market.

      The dominance of communication tools like Slack in the business world, particularly among startups and midsize companies, makes it a valuable asset for larger companies looking to expand their offerings and keep competitors at bay. However, the complexity and slow development of Slack may have hindered its growth, allowing Microsoft Teams to gain ground. Despite Slack's impressive revenue, its market cap doesn't reflect its value due to its relatively low multiple compared to other software companies. The lack of a universal identifier for Slack profiles is another missed opportunity for the company to create a more seamless user experience and retain users even after they leave a job. Overall, the slow development and confusing features of Slack may have hindered its growth and allowed Microsoft Teams to gain ground in the market.

    • Make Slack the hub of Salesforce's product offeringsSalesforce invests $27.7B in Slack to expand reach, attract more customers, and make Slack the hub of their product offerings.

      Salesforce's decision to acquire Slack for $27.7 billion is likely driven by their strategic goal to make Slack the hub of their product offerings and attract more enterprise customers. With Salesforce's current revenue run rate of $20 billion and market cap of $223 billion, the acquisition represents a relatively small investment for the potential to expand their reach and customer base. The slow growth of Slack and the presence of Microsoft Teams as a competitor may have also influenced the decision, as the Slack board may have felt the opportunity to grow the company independently was limited. The potential merger between Slack and Zoom might have been a stronger contender, but ultimately, Microsoft's decision to let the acquisition happen suggests they believe their product is sufficient and they were unwilling to pay the premium for Slack.

    • Salesforce acquires Slack to keep competitor out of other tech giants' handsSalesforce acquires Slack for its high growth potential and existing customers, expanding its customer base and increasing revenue, while also securing a competitive advantage against other tech giants.

      The acquisition of Slack by Salesforce for potentially up to $26.7 billion can be seen as a strategic move to keep a key competitor out of the hands of other tech giants, such as Oracle and Microsoft. This acquisition is significant, ranking among the largest in tech history alongside deals like Facebook's purchase of WhatsApp and Microsoft's acquisition of LinkedIn. Slack's high growth potential, with 87 customers paying over $1 million a year and a 50% year-over-year revenue increase, makes it an attractive target for Salesforce to expand its customer base and increase revenue. Additionally, Salesforce's existing relationships with these large organizations gives them a unique advantage in understanding and targeting potential high-value Slack customers.

    • Slack's Revenue Surges, Setting Sights on New CompetitorsSlack's unique pricing model and strong growth led to a successful acquisition by Salesforce, potentially sparking new competition in the chat enterprise software market.

      Slack, a popular communication platform for smaller companies, experienced significant growth, reaching 215 million in revenue for Q1, a 49% year-over-year increase, and 130,000 total paid customers. Slack's unique pricing model, charging only for active users, sets it apart from competitors. With Slack's acquisition by Salesforce, there's speculation about the future of the brand and the potential emergence of new competitors in the chat enterprise software market. Historically, acquisitions by larger companies have led to cultural shifts and growth challenges. However, Salesforce's recent successful acquisitions, such as Tableau, indicate a commitment to preserving the acquired company's culture and momentum. The acquisition may lead to new competitors entering the market, as potential founders consider the opportunities and challenges presented by Salesforce's acquisition.

    • Potential Sale of Slack to Salesforce: A Bittersweet Moment for Some InvestorsInvestors may gain financially from Slack's sale to Salesforce, but there's disappointment about its potential as an independent tech giant. Benefits could include new features and integrations for Salesforce users.

      The potential sale of Slack to Salesforce could be a bittersweet moment for some investors, as it may mark the end of Slack's journey as an independent tech company. While the sale could bring significant financial gains for those selling their shares, there is a sense of disappointment that Slack may not reach its full potential as a standalone trillion-dollar company. The investor expresses a preference for tech giants like Amazon, Facebook, Google, and Tesla, which have maintained their independence and grown into massive entities. However, the sale could also bring benefits to Salesforce and its users, potentially leading to new features and integrations that could increase the value of Salesforce's existing products. Additionally, the investor notes that Slack's lack of significant updates and marketing efforts may have contributed to its underperformance compared to other tech companies, and that the acquisition could help address these issues. Overall, the sale represents an opportunity for significant financial gains, but also raises questions about the future of Slack as an independent player in the tech industry.

    • Twitter's Failed Products and Potential Sale to SalesforceA lack of innovative vision in a company's product team can lead to unsuccessful products and potential sales, as seen with Twitter's Moments, Fleets, Audio, and potential sale to Salesforce.

      A lack of bold vision and innovation in a company's product team can lead to stagnation and the release of unsuccessful products. This was evident in the case of Twitter, which failed with products like Moments, Fleets, and Audio, and even considered selling to Salesforce's Marc Benioff. Benioff, known for his ambitious acquisitions and building large companies, was in the running to buy Twitter. Despite the challenges, it's believed that Twitter can still reach $800 million in revenue and potentially exit for $5-10 billion. However, if this is the end of the road for Twitter, it's unfortunate that it didn't explore different directions. For those interested in investing in pre-IPO companies, consider joining our crowd at OURCROD.com/twist.

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    This Week in Startups
    en-usJune 19, 2024

    Woke Google Maps, how Wells Fargo is losing money on fintech, and the global AI race | E1967

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    Lessons in Unreasonable Hospitality with Will Guidara | E1966

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    (0:00) Will Guidara of Unreasonable Hospitality joins Jason.

    (3:44) Important premises from the book Unreasonable Hospitality and how it relates to all businesses including startups.

    (6:26) Will explains how it felt to see parts from his book appear on the hit show The Bear.

    (8:13) Iconic examples of hospitality and how it can turn customers into advocates for your brand.

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    (11:08) Powerful examples of going above and beyond for your customer.

    (14:32) Will’s annual “The Welcome Conference” in NY.

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    (22:13) Jason shares an anecdote of how he helps others.

    (24:17) Will and Jason riff on interesting examples of unreasonable hospitality, including one that should exist for airplane passengers.

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    (32:12) A perspective shift that changes the value of call centers.

    (36:03) How the show The Bear lifted Will’s ‘NY street hotdog’ story and made it their own - leading to his involvement for future seasons.

    (40:21) Will feels that The Bear was able to craft and articulate his message spot on in one of their best episodes.

    (42:22) How to gain from the addictive personality traits in the restaurant business.

    (51:15) The “Chicken for Two” at the NoMad hotel.

    (53:31) Breaking down the state of tipping culture and how its removal from Eleven Madison Park was highly successful.

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    en-usJune 14, 2024

    Inflation cools, how Waymo handled a crash, and the next startups to go public | E1965

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    (3:53) How Waymo handled a crash and self-driving car standards

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    https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/13/waymo-recall-crash-software-self-driving-cars/

    https://techcrunch.com/2024/06/12/waymo-second-robotaxi-recall-autonomous-vehicle/

    https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/AAPL?qsearchterm=aapl

    https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

    https://x.com/ashugarg/status/1800658425040253309

    https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US2Y

    https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/fed-meeting-fomc-interest-rate-decision-cpi-inflation-june-2024/card/traders-firmly-expect-a-rate-cut-in-september-q8qGgjh8jorUx56RBpK8

    https://kalshi.com/markets/ratecutcount/number-of-rate-cuts#ratecutcount-24dec31

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/12/fed-meeting-today-on-interest-rate.html

    https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/databricks

    https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/gusto

    https://archive.is/fGJav#selection-2217.0-2226.0

    https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/shein-b79e

    https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001514587&owner=exclude&count=40&hidefilings=0

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    This Week in Startups
    en-usJune 12, 2024

    Apple’s WWDC 2024: Reactions, Highlights & Breakdowns with Jason and Alex | E1964

    Apple’s WWDC 2024: Reactions, Highlights & Breakdowns with Jason and Alex | E1964

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    (23:53) ChatGPT’s integration with Siri.

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    (31:07) Discussing the relationships between OpenAI and Microsoft and now Apple.

    (34:44) More “ooohs” and “ahhhs” from Apple’s new Image Playground.

    (40:25) Jason breaks down other key announcements from WWDC 2024 including a password manager and Apple TV’s new “Insights”.

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    This Week in Startups
    en-usJune 11, 2024

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