Embodied Leadership with Donnie Maclurcan

In this episode we build on the two part series on consensual non-monogamy by discussing modern family structures and the work underway to support them.

Our guests, Alexander Chen and Health Schechinger are both doing remarkable work in this field.

In this conversation we discuss:

• The relationship between consensual non-monogamy and the LGBTQ+ movement
• What family means
• Why this is a civil right issue
• Legal work underway to support nondyadic partnerships
• The research agenda
• Why this is relevant for systemic change more broadly

Resources:

• Modern Family Institute
• Polyamory Legal Advocacy Coalition

In this episode Jenny and Jessica discuss:

• The neurochemisty of lust, attraction, and love
• Consensual non-monogamy (CNM) and social justice: punitive vs. restorative vs. transformational models
• How CNM helps us surface and heal trauma and attachment issues
• How CNM teaches us to change dominant paradigms and stories within us
• Why CNM leads to a change in consciousness and evolution of the self
• How embarking on a CNM journey is similar to climbing Mt Everest

Resources:

• Polysecure, by Jessica Fern
• Polywise by Jessica Fern
• Love, Actually: The science behind lust, attraction, and companionship
• Our Models of Justice are Perpetuating Injustice Jenny's Blog Post
• We Will Not Cancel Us: And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice by adrienne maree brown
• Thinking in Systems by Donella Meadows

In this conversation Jenny and Robert discuss:

• What the optimal zone is and how it relates to our nervous system
• What the defensive zone is and how it relates to our nervous system
• How our triggers are amplified by past trauma, agitation from other events of the day, and chronic stress
• How we can break the cycle of reflexive response when we are triggered and develop new patterns to become less triggered next time
• The notion of optimal zone hygiene, and practices we can employ to stay in our optimal zone
• Optimal zone first aid; i.e. things we can do in groups as preparation to better respond when someone is triggered
• Healing, particularly with respect to intergenerational trauma
• How this conversation fits into Robert's course at the Context Institute, Bright Future Now

In this episode Jenny and Jessica cover:

• The prevalence of infidelity and divorce
• Issues with the modern love story and codependency
• What is love?  Ideas from bell hooks and Daniel Schmachtenberger
• What consensual non monogamy (CNM) is
• Different variations CNM can take depending on emotional and physical exclusivity
• Why people practice CNM
• Best practices: defining your why
• Best practices: defining your what
• Hierarchy
• Transparency
• CNM and attachment theory: the difference between structural and statistical security

References

• Polysecure, by Jessica Fern
• Polywise by Jessica Fern
• all about love by bell hooks
• "What Loving You Means To Me" by Daniel Schmactenberger

In this essential episode, Jenny discusses stakeholder capitalism with Jasper van Brakel, CEO of RSF Social Finance. This is one of the most important topics of the Denizen inquiry, as it tees up true economic reform where profit is put in service of purpose.

In this conversation Jenny and Jasper cover stakeholder capitalism comprehensively:

• Defining stakeholder capitalism and differentiating between stakeholder economics
• Outlining key ideas from classical economics to neoliberalism to today's shift to stakeholder driven models
• Trends driving stakeholder capitalism
• Metrics and B Corps
• Public Benefit Corps
• Board Representation
• Co-ops
• Employee Trusts
• Perpetual Purpose Trusts
• Foundation Owned Companies
• Capital Constraints
• Philosophical questions

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Resources

Jasper's writings

• Everyone talks about the E and the S, but we need to talk more about the G
• Want to wring impact from ESG? Look to governance
• Momentum gathers for a mission-first business model revolution
• Welcome to the Era of Regenerative Finance

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Jenny's Medium posts

• Accelerating Stakeholder Capitalism
• Taming the Evolutionary Beast
• The Friedman Doctrine, Revisited

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The regenerative story starts with single core idea: we can use the universal principles underlying stable, healthy, and sustainable living and nonliving systems throughout the real world as a model for economic-system design.

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After 20 years on Wall Street, John Fullerton embarked on an intellectual journey that led him to formulate his ideas around regenerative economics. In this conversation Jenny and John discuss the meaningful influences in John's thinking, his views on why neoclassical economics is fundamentally flawed, the eight principles of regenerative capitalism, how his ideas relate to more dominant forms of economic reform, and the Capital Institute's course on Regenerative Economics, which John describes as more of an awakening than a course.

Post Growth Institute's Donnie Maclurcan returns to the Denizen podcast with an important follow up to one of our most popular episodes, Post Growth Economics. Here Donnie reiterates on why capitalism is fundamentally flawed, outlines what is working around the world today, and explains his theory of change for how we evolve to an economy that is regenerative, just, and circular.

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Outline for the conversation:

• Donnie's definition of capitalism [2:24]
• Capitalism, extraction, and exploitation [6:34]
• Debt and why capitalism is fundamentally inequitable [9:06]
• Why wealth taxes are not the answer [15:47]
• The role of profit in a post capitalist market economy [19:16]
• Examples of post capitalist organizations operating today [26:03]
• Various governance models and entity types [27:33]
• Investment and ownership in a post capitalist economy [28:37]
• IKEA and Bosch as examples of a successful global post growth company [30:18]
• Examples in the financial sector [36:24]
• Why certified B-Corps and public benefit corporations are not enough [38:04]
• Why changing where you bank is one of the highest leverage things you can do [40:11]
• Influences from Gandhian economics and Vinoba Bhave [49:40]
• Moving capital, labor, attention out of the extractive economy [50:22]

This episode comes along side of the launch of Tobias Rose-Stockwell's book Taming The Outrage Machine: How Technology Amplifies Discontent, Disrupts Democracy -- And What We Can Do About It. Tobias is an author, designer, and media researcher who has been working at the forefront of this topic for many years.

By investigating media's role in information flows throughout history, Tobias' book brings clarity and fresh insights to the role social media plays in society today. In this conversation Jenny and Tobias distill the book's most salient points for the Denizen audience.

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Outline of the discussion:

• The role of outrage in democratic governance [4:00]
• Technological disruptions and the dark valley [10:04]
• Martin Luther and the printing press [10:52]
• The impact of the first advertising based newspaper [14:04]
• The advent of modern journalism [18:16]
• The relationship between distribution costs and editorial incentives [22:10]
• Television and the impact of repealing the Fairness Doctrine [23:45]
• The role of human psychology and cognitive biases [27:17]
• The three design features that changed everything: the algorithmic feed [31:09]
• The three design features that changed everything: social metrics [33:54]
• The three design features that changed everything: the one click share [37:13]
• Economic incentives and multi-polar traps[41:47]
• The role of government and design vs. content level regulation [43:41]
• Hope from a historical example: radio [48:54]
• Intervention points: the individual [53:52]
• Intervention points: social media platforms [56:06]
• Intervention points: policy [59:57]
• A word of caution about decentralized social media [1:01:41]
• The speed of technological progress vs. the speed of regulatory response [1:03:10]

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