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    Ep. 90 | 2 Bears 1 Cave w/ Tom Segura & Marc Maron

    enJuly 19, 2021
    What bad habits does the speaker mention cutting out?
    How can avoiding unnecessary expenses lead to savings?
    What changes have occurred in the comedy radio industry?
    What challenges does the radio environment present for hosts?
    How does podcasting differ from traditional radio for comedians?

    • Cutting out bad habits and unnecessary expensesQuitting smoking and finding affordable wireless plans are examples of cutting out bad habits and unnecessary expenses, leading to significant savings and improvements in quality of life. Seek cost-effective alternatives and eliminate middlemen to maximize benefits.

      Sometimes cutting out bad habits, like smoking or overpriced wireless plans, can lead to significant savings and improvements in quality of life. For instance, the speaker shared his experience of quitting smoking after five years and discovering Mint Mobile's affordable wireless plans. Similarly, avoiding unnecessary expenses, like expensive wireless contracts, can lead to substantial savings. The key to these savings is cutting out the middleman and selling services online, as Mint Mobile does with wireless plans. Additionally, the speaker shared his past experience with Coke, reflecting on how it initially seemed appealing but ultimately led to negative consequences. Overall, the message is to be mindful of habits and expenses, and to seek out cost-effective alternatives that can lead to long-term benefits.

    • Embracing life's twists and turnsLife experiences, whether unexpected or intentional, can lead to unique outcomes. Embrace the journey and find joy in the unexpected, but be mindful of substance use and its potential consequences.

      Life experiences, whether they involve drugs, alcohol, or relationships, can lead to unique and sometimes unexpected outcomes. The speaker shares stories of his past experiences with coke-induced orgasms, regulars at bars, and near misses with the law. He also talks about his current podcast, "Dark Fonzie," where he and his friend discuss life without kids and focus on music instead of cigars or sports. Through these stories, the speaker emphasizes the importance of embracing life's twists and turns and finding joy in the unexpected. However, he also warns of the potential consequences of excessive use of substances and the importance of being mindful of one's limits.

    • A comedian's tale of driving under the influence and the consequencesDriving under the influence can lead to dangerous situations and legal consequences, so always make responsible decisions.

      The speaker shares a story from his past about getting into trouble while under the influence and trying to get home after a comedy gig. He recalls getting into an accident while driving home to Somerville, Massachusetts, after a night of drinking. Despite not being injured, the speaker was arrested on the scene and had to perform various sobriety tests for the police. The incident serves as a reminder of the consequences of driving under the influence and the importance of making responsible decisions. Additionally, the speaker mentions his background in comedy and how he started his career in Boston, performing at various venues and drinking for free to make ends meet.

    • Actions of law enforcement can differ greatlyBe aware of potential consequences of actions and follow rules to avoid unwanted attention from law enforcement.

      Even in the midst of unexpected situations, the actions of law enforcement can vary greatly. In the first part of the story, two cops showed compassion and understanding towards the speaker after a minor accident. However, in the second part, a California Highway Patrol officer showed no leniency when he suspected drug use in the car. The speaker learned that leaving the scene of property damage comes with serious consequences, requiring a court appearance, and that the rules can be strictly enforced. It's important to be aware of the potential consequences of our actions and to be prepared to face the consequences when they arise. Additionally, the speaker shared some of his favorite places to take visitors in Los Angeles, including Runyon Canyon, Venice Beach, and Malibu. However, his experience in Malibu served as a reminder that even in popular tourist areas, rules must be followed to avoid unwanted attention from law enforcement.

    • From Trouble to TriumphIn challenging situations, persistence, a good sense of humor, and a strong support system can lead to a positive outcome.

      Even in seemingly hopeless situations, there's always a chance for redemption. The speaker in this story found himself in trouble after mowing the wrong lawn, leading to a ticket and a potential jail sentence. However, with the help of a public defender and a clever lawyer, he managed to get the charges dismissed. The experience taught him that sometimes, all it takes is a little persistence and a good sense of humor to turn things around. Additionally, the story highlights the importance of having a support system and being resourceful in difficult situations. Despite the initial setback, the speaker was able to navigate the legal system and come out on top. Overall, this story serves as a reminder that even when things seem bleak, there's always a way to make things right.

    • Navigating the Radio and Podcasting Worlds as a ComedianUnderstanding radio's unique challenges and podcasting's creative freedom are crucial for comedians to connect with and entertain audiences effectively.

      The experience of being on the radio, whether as a guest or a host, can be both rewarding and challenging. The radio environment requires a unique skill set, including the ability to adapt to different personalities and situations, and the ability to engage and entertain listeners. The radio world also comes with its own dynamics and hierarchies, with some radio personalities viewing comedians as inferior due to their perceived lack of experience or understanding of the medium. However, podcasting, which is a relatively new medium, offers more freedom and creativity for comedians to showcase their talents without the constraints of traditional radio formats. Ultimately, whether it's radio or podcasting, the goal is to connect with and entertain audiences, and to do so effectively requires a deep understanding of the medium and a willingness to adapt and evolve.

    • Unexpected incidents in radio workRadio work involves dealing with unexpected incidents and requires flexibility and adaptability

      The experience of working in radio, particularly talk radio, can be chaotic and unpredictable. The hosts often rely on raw humor and improvisation, with little preparation or structure. The speaker in this conversation shares stories of unexpected incidents, such as malfunctioning equipment or last-minute requests, which added to the chaos. Despite the challenges, the speaker found enjoyment in the spontaneity and camaraderie of working with other radio personalities. However, he also noted that some hosts struggled to adapt to the format, leading to desperation and lack of polish. Overall, the speaker's reflections highlight the unique nature of radio work and the importance of flexibility and adaptability in this field.

    • Encountering a Fading Radio StarRadio personalities must adapt to industry changes and engage in meaningful conversations to stay relevant

      The radio industry, specifically in the context of comedy radio, has seen significant changes over the years, with some personalities being pushed out and new ones rising to prominence. The speaker shares his experiences of encountering Alex Bennett, a radio host in San Francisco who was once a major player but had waned in popularity by the time the speaker arrived. Bennett's radio show featured three comics who would sit and listen to him complain about his health instead of engaging in meaningful conversations. The speaker recalls an incident where he attempted to join a conversation between Bennett and comic Craig Shoemaker, only to be shut down by both parties. Despite the frustrating experience, the speaker acknowledges that survival in the entertainment industry is an achievement worth celebrating. The incident serves as a reminder of the ever-evolving nature of the industry and the importance of adapting to change.

    • Working long hours in radio takes a toll on personal life and healthWorking long hours in radio or late-night shifts can significantly impact personal life and health, leading to exhaustion, relationship struggles, and even drug use. Despite the heroic feeling, it's impossible to have a life while working such demanding hours.

      Working long hours in demanding jobs, especially in radio or late-night shifts, can significantly impact one's personal life and health. The speaker shares his experience of working on morning radio for over a year and a half, which required him to wake up early every day, do news, and perform comedy bits. He mentions the challenges of adjusting to the sleep schedule, feeling constantly exhausted, and being unable to maintain relationships or friendships. He also shares how he would sometimes resort to using drugs like cocaine to help him get through the long hours and mornings. Despite the heroic feeling of being a short-order cook and being able to party all night and work all day, the speaker acknowledges the toll it took on his life. He emphasizes that it's impossible to have a life while working such demanding hours and that even simple pleasures like a good cup of coffee and a cigarette in the morning become a luxury. The experience taught him that while it may be possible to function on little sleep and drugs, it comes at a great cost to one's overall well-being.

    • Struggling with personal habits later in lifeRegretfully acknowledging the challenges of quitting deeply ingrained habits like smoking or overeating, even when started later in life, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and self-control.

      Personal habits, such as smoking or overeating, can become deeply ingrained and difficult to break, even if started later in life. The speaker shares his experience of quitting smoking after five years of heavy use, which he had taken up to help him write and perform as a comic. He acknowledges that he started too late and regrets the harm it caused to his health. The conversation also touches upon the speaker's past struggles with nicotine addiction and weight loss, emphasizing the challenges of maintaining healthy habits as one ages. The conversation underscores the importance of self-awareness and self-control in managing personal habits and the potential consequences of starting them late in life.

    • The Importance of Addressing Challenges Before They EscalateIgnoring warning signs and difficult situations can lead to bigger problems. Communication and taking action are key to preventing issues from becoming unmanageable.

      People often face challenges in their personal and professional lives, and they may choose to ignore warning signs or difficult situations due to various reasons, including fear of interference or the belief that things will eventually work out on their own. However, ignoring these issues can lead to more significant problems down the line. For instance, Alison Brie shared her experience of losing weight during the third season of "Glow," which went unnoticed by her colleagues, leading to a drastic change in her appearance. Similarly, she described her experience of being friends with someone who was dating a crazy person, choosing not to intervene even when things escalated. These experiences highlight the importance of communication and addressing issues before they become unmanageable. Additionally, Brie discussed her experience of working in the entertainment industry, where long hours and waiting periods can test one's patience, but also provide opportunities for growth and challenges. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, communication, and taking action when necessary.

    • Actors overcoming challenges in portraying diverse rolesActors can successfully embody diverse roles through research, practice, and trusting their abilities, even if they're vastly different from their own experiences.

      Actors often face challenges when portraying characters vastly different from themselves, such as accents or backgrounds. For instance, a neurotic Jewish actor might be nervous about playing a heartbroken Texan character. However, by focusing on the application of acting skills and avoiding caricatures, actors can successfully embody these roles. The process involves research, practice, and trusting one's abilities. Additionally, personal experiences and lifestyle changes can influence an actor's perspective and performance. In this specific case, an actor moving to Austin, Texas, found inspiration in the unique culture and environment, ultimately leading to a more authentic and engaging portrayal.

    • Desire for stability in raising childrenThe importance of stability for some people in raising children stems from personal experiences and the pandemic's impact, despite potential opportunities in new places.

      Stability and familiarity are important values for some people, especially when it comes to raising children. The speaker's wife, for instance, is adamant about not moving again and wants their sons to feel grounded in their current location. This desire for stability stems from the speaker's own experiences of growing up in unstable environments and observing the constant movement and change in the entertainment industry. The pandemic has further fueled this sense of instability with the relocation of significant companies and entertainment venues. Despite the excitement about growth and opportunities in new places, the speaker acknowledges the downsides, such as longer commutes and the potential loss of cherished aspects of a community. Ultimately, everyone has to find their own balance between the desire for adventure and the need for stability.

    • A Passionate Journey to Opie's BBQ in Spicewood, TexasThe speaker cherishes his barbecue experiences, especially at Opie's, where he's treated like royalty due to his frequent visits. He prefers smoking meats and using a Trigger grill, and though he hasn't tried all popular spots, he's enthusiastic about their recipes.

      The speaker is passionate about barbecue and has had many memorable experiences at various barbecue places in Texas, particularly Opie's in Spicewood. He emphasizes the journey to the restaurant and the unique experience of arriving and being treated like a king due to his frequent visits and recommendations. The speaker also mentions his preference for smoking meats over grilling and his enthusiasm for using a Trigger grill. Despite not having tried some popular barbecue spots like Franklin's, he has positive opinions based on others' experiences and his own experimentation with their recipes. Overall, the speaker's love for barbecue and the social aspects of discovering new places and sharing his experiences shines through the conversation.

    • Cooking a perfect steak or smoking meatUsing a thermometer, mastering cooking methods like reverse searing and smoking, and finding the right tools can lead to delicious meals. Patience and dedication are key.

      Cooking a perfect steak or smoking meat requires dedication, patience, and the right tools. The discussion highlights the importance of using a thermometer and understanding different cooking methods like reverse searing and smoking. Some people prefer high-heat grills or smokers for the best results, while others might find convenience in appliances like Traegers. However, there's a learning curve to mastering these techniques, and some people might get frustrated or criticized for not doing it "right." Ultimately, the joy of cooking or smoking comes from the experience and the satisfaction of creating a delicious meal. Whether it's a simple steak or a complex smoked fish dish, the journey is worth it.

    • Rediscovering the Joy of CookingThe speaker values the control and enjoyment of cooking his own meals despite a busy schedule, and his passion for the craft extends to making pasta and sushi from scratch.

      The speaker is passionate about cooking and enjoys the process of creating meals from scratch. He has recently rediscovered this hobby and even went as far as purchasing equipment to make pasta at home. Despite his busy schedule, he prefers cooking his own food over eating out, as he values the control and enjoyment it brings him. The speaker also shares his love for sushi and even makes his own, demonstrating his dedication to the craft. Additionally, he expresses his frustration with people giving unsolicited advice or opinions, emphasizing the importance of personal autonomy in pursuing one's interests. Overall, the speaker's enthusiasm for cooking is a significant aspect of his life and brings him joy and satisfaction.

    • Transitioning from comedy to actingUncertainty and discomfort are common when trying new performing arts. Embrace challenges, improve skills, and embrace the unique connection between performer and audience.

      Experience and comfort level vary greatly between different performing arts, such as comedy and acting. The interviewee shared their experience of transitioning from stand-up comedy to acting on TV, admitting their initial inexperience and discomfort. They acknowledged the skill and dedication required for acting, but expressed uncertainty about labeling themselves as an actor. The conversation also touched upon the iconic performances of artists like Jennifer Hudson and Paul McCartney, highlighting the unique connection between the performer and their audience. Ultimately, the interviewee emphasized the importance of embracing challenges and continuously improving, regardless of the specific craft or art form.

    • Adapting to Different IntervieweesPrepare for interviews, but also be open to unexpected conversations for memorable results.

      Even experienced interviewers like Howard Stern get nervous before interviews, but they approach each conversation differently depending on the interviewee. Some interviews require extensive preparation, while others can lead to unexpected and interesting conversations. Stern shared stories about his interviews with Paul McCartney and Maynard James Keenan, highlighting the importance of adapting to the situation and not being overly reliant on being a fan or having extensive knowledge about the subject. Instead, Stern emphasized the value of engaging in genuine and unexpected conversations, which can lead to unique and memorable interviews.

    • Meeting Bruce Springsteen: Reality vs. PerceptionPeople are complex and their public personas may not fully represent who they are as individuals. Approach celebrities with an open mind and appreciate their unique qualities.

      Our perception of celebrities can be different from reality. The speaker shares an experience of meeting Bruce Springsteen, who he had always thought of as a dark and hard-on-himself persona based on his public image and book. However, during their conversation, Springsteen showed a different side of himself, revealing a sense of humor and snark. This encounter made the speaker realize that people are complex and that their public personas may not fully represent who they are as individuals. The speaker also acknowledges that some people have a deep connection with Springsteen's music and live shows, which may not resonate with everyone. Ultimately, this experience taught the speaker to approach celebrities with an open mind and to appreciate the unique qualities that make each person complex and multifaceted.

    • Navigating Career Challenges in the Pandemic EraComedian adapts to new performance environments, embraces uncertainty, and continues to develop new material.

      The comedian is reflecting on the challenges and opportunities he's faced during the pandemic in relation to his career. He's been trying out new material at comedy clubs and improvising on stage without a script. He's been hesitant to perform outdoors and has had mixed experiences with clubs and festivals. Despite some setbacks, he's grateful for the opportunities he's had and the progress he's made in his career. He's currently working on new material and looking forward to performing at Dynasty Typewriter in July. Overall, the comedian is embracing the uncertainty and exploring new avenues in his craft.

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    Let’s start!

     

    1. Gratitude

    Okay, this is a virtue that is lacking in our society. It involves giving thanks, either in word or with an action. That is, you can reciprocate with gratitude to someone by helping them with something, or by showing kindness, etc. From the word gratitude, we get the word grateful.

    Example:

    "Pam has no gratitude towards her parents. 

    Her parents saved all their lives so she could go to college.

    But she dropped out of college to travel the world with a backpack. "

    And while Pam surely has a great time, she has been very ungrateful towards her parents.

    Let's look at the next one:

    2. Perseverance

    Well, this word I think is easy to remember. It means to be persistent in some projects, which typically may take quite some time. It is an essential virtue since it takes a lot of perseverance to achieve most things in life. We can take the example of athletes, who need to train every day at a very high level. This is very hard, and it requires perseverance.

    An example. Imagine yourself in a job interview:

    -  What is your greatest virtue?

    -  I am perseveran…presea…pers…perseverant person!

    :) Now that's a persevering person :)

    Let's see the next one:

    3. Courage

    We can also use the word bravery instead of courage. A person with courage confronts danger without being afraid and even transforms it into determination. Many times courage is exhibited with passion. It can be found in soldiers, police officers, firefighters, ... But we can also find courage in any person and situation. 

    An example:

    - Tom had the courage to ask for a raise.

    - And did he get it?

    - No. Now he is looking for a job.

     

    And last but not least:

    4. Prudence

    Although courage and prudence seem like opposites, they are not. A prudent person is not a fearful or frightened person. They simply do not act impulsively. They avoid unnecessary risks. They act with caution. It is quite similar to wisdom. The difference I think, is subtle. A prudent person tends to have good judgment. That is, to make good decisions. A prudent person simply tries to avoid potentially dangerous situations by not acting impulsively. 

    For example:

    A ship was sailing at sea when a fire broke out. The captain asks everyone to leave the ship immediately. A passenger is about to jump into the sea, but his very prudent wife tells him: "Tony, wait 1 hour, we just ate, and we haven't even digested yet."

    Well, this example has a certain humor. Sometimes an excess of prudence is not very wise :)

    What do you think? Do you have all the virtues, only some of them, or are you lacking in virtuosity?

    Ok. Today we have talked about these four virtues:

    Gratitude

    Perseverance

    Courage

    Prudence

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