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    Epidemiology (DISEASES) with 'This Podcast Will Kill You's' Erins Welsh & Allmann-Updyke

    en-usJuly 31, 2018

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding Diseases: Insights from EpidemiologistsEpidemiologists are experts in disease investigation, collecting data to prevent outbreaks, and sharing crucial information to keep the public informed and safe.

      Epidemiology, the study of diseases and their impact on people, is a crucial field that helps us understand and respond to various health threats. Epidemiologists, like doctors Aaron Welsh and Aaron Allman Updike, play a vital role in investigating diseases, from infectious ones like cholera and SARS to non-infectious ones and environmental exposures. They work on the front lines, collecting data and information to prevent potential outbreaks from becoming pandemics. This episode of Ologies features an in-depth conversation with these two epidemiologists, who share their experiences and insights on various diseases, fieldwork, and the culture of academia. They also discuss the importance of hand washing, pandemic capitalism, and the role of epidemiology in addressing public health crises. So, next time you hear about an outbreak or a disease, remember the crucial work epidemiologists do to keep us informed and safe.

    • The PhD Approval Process: Following Passion and Validating ResearchThe PhD approval process is a rigorous journey of following one's passion, making necessary adjustments based on expert feedback, and ultimately gaining official recognition and validation for one's research.

      Earning a PhD involves a rigorous approval process where researchers must make necessary adjustments based on feedback from a panel of experts. Erin Almond Updike and Erin Walsh, both PhD holders in epidemiology, shared their unique experiences. Updike's fascination with diseases began during a parasitology class in college, while Walsh discovered her passion through a microbiology course. Both women studied epidemics for their PhDs and now co-host a podcast about the subject. Despite their expertise, they questioned whether they could call themselves epidemiologists. The interview emphasized the importance of following one's passion and the transformative impact of education. The PhD approval process, while tedious, ultimately leads to official recognition and validation of one's research.

    • Exploring the Fascination with Diseases and EpidemicsHosts Erin and Aaron share their passion for studying diseases and epidemics through their podcast, focusing on neglected tropical diseases and using themed drinks to make learning engaging

      The hosts of the "Double Trouble Epidemiology" podcast, Erin and Aaron, have a deep fascination with diseases and epidemics, stemming from their backgrounds in microbiology, epidemiology, and disease ecology. They met in graduate school at the University of Illinois and bonded over their shared passion for studying complex diseases. Their podcast aims to inform and bring awareness to neglected tropical diseases, while also showcasing their humor and creativity through themed drinks, such as "quarantinis." Their goal is not to scare people, but rather to inspire curiosity and understanding about the intricacies of diseases and their impact on various populations around the world. Their podcast episodes cover a range of topics, from the complex life cycles of diseases to the historical and cultural contexts of epidemics. Through their podcast, Erin and Aaron strive to make the study of diseases more accessible and engaging for a wider audience.

    • The interconnectedness of history, biology, and disease ecologyUnderstanding the influence of history, biology, and disease ecology on each other is crucial for gaining a comprehensive perspective on complex issues, such as tick-borne diseases and climate change in Panama. Misapplying terms like 'epidemic' to non-health-related issues can detract from the gravity of public health concerns.

      Understanding the interconnectedness of various fields, such as history, biology, and disease ecology, is crucial for gaining a comprehensive perspective on complex issues. The speaker's personal experience of studying plague led them to realize that these subjects are not isolated, but rather influence each other significantly. An epidemic refers to an outbreak of a disease beyond what is normal for a given community, while a pandemic is an epidemic that has spread globally. The speaker's research focuses on tick-borne diseases and climate change in Panama, and understanding the current drivers of these diseases is essential for predicting their future impact. Misapplying the term "epidemic" to non-health-related issues can dilute its meaning and detract from the gravity of actual public health concerns.

    • Understanding Different Types of Pathogens: Viruses, Bacteria, Fungi, and ParasitesViruses are tiny infectious particles, bacteria are single-celled organisms, fungi are multicellular organisms, and parasites are larger organisms that live off another organism. Understanding these differences can aid in recognizing potential health risks and impressing someone on a date.

      Epidemics can be caused by various types of pathogens, including viruses, bacteria, fungi, and parasites. Each type has distinct characteristics and can cause different diseases. For instance, viruses are tiny particles containing genetic material surrounded by a protein coat, requiring a host cell to replicate. Bacteria are single-celled organisms without a nucleus, while fungi and parasites are larger. Fungal infections are less common due to our immune system's ability to fight them, but susceptibility increases when the immune system is compromised. Parasites are larger organisms, and protozoa, a single-celled organism with a nucleus, is a type of parasite. Understanding the differences between these pathogens can be helpful in various situations, such as impressing someone on a date or recognizing potential health risks. Influenza, a viral infection, is one of the most well-known epidemics, causing widespread illness and, in severe cases, death. Despite the common perception that the flu is just a bad cold, it can lead to serious complications, and there is currently no effective treatment once someone contracts it.

    • The 1918 flu pandemic: A reminder of influenza's devastating impactThe 1918 flu pandemic resulted in 50-100 million deaths worldwide, underscoring the potential severity of influenza viruses. Rapid spread was facilitated by large gatherings, global travel, and recombination with animals. The virus caused a cytokine storm, leading to lung failure and death.

      The 1918 flu pandemic serves as a stark reminder of the potential devastating impact of influenza viruses. This flu strain, which started in Kansas or France, led to the deaths of an estimated 50 million to 100 million people worldwide. The rapid spread of the virus was facilitated by large gatherings of people, global travel, and the recombination of viruses with animals and mammals. The virus caused a cytokine storm, leading to the shutdown of the immune system and death by lung failure. Despite the advances in medicine, influenza remains a significant concern due to its high rate of recombination and the fact that it can infect various organisms, leading to the creation of new viruses that can be difficult for the immune system to identify and fight off. The term "nothing to sneeze at" did not originate from epidemiology but rather from the belief that sneezing cleared the brain during the 1600s. However, influenza is indeed something to be taken seriously.

    • Understanding RNA's Role in Viruses and PandemicsRNA viruses are easily spread and prone to errors during replication, making them difficult to combat. Hygiene practices are crucial in preventing their spread, but finding a balance between sanitation and immune system development is essential.

      RNA is a single-stranded molecule that acts as a messenger between DNA and ribosomes to create proteins. It's prone to errors during replication, leading to new strains and making it difficult to combat. Additionally, RNA viruses, such as the flu, are easily spread through respiratory droplets, increasing their pandemic potential. The globalization era has made it easier for diseases to spread rapidly, and while it doesn't necessarily mean a global catastrophe, it's a possibility. Hygiene practices, such as hand washing, are essential in preventing the spread of diseases. The hygiene hypothesis suggests that too much sanitation could negatively impact our immune systems, so finding a balance is crucial. Ultimately, understanding the unique characteristics of RNA viruses and their transmission methods is vital in combating future pandemics.

    • The Importance of Vaccines in Disease PreventionVaccines, like the smallpox vaccine, play a crucial role in preventing the spread of diseases, but their development often involves ethical concerns.

      While washing hands is important in preventing the spread of diseases, it's not the only factor. Viruses like smallpox can be devastating, and their eradication through vaccination is a significant achievement in medical history. Edward Jenner's discovery of the smallpox vaccine, developed through exposing people to cowpox, was a groundbreaking moment in medicine. However, it's important to note that the development of the vaccine was not an ethical process, and the use of human subjects without their consent raises ethical concerns. The smallpox virus is highly contagious and can cause painful and disfiguring symptoms, making its eradication a true triumph in public health.

    • The Power of Scientific Discovery and Importance of VaccinationJenner's discovery of the smallpox vaccine saved countless lives and debunked false vaccine risks, emphasizing their importance in preventing preventable illnesses.

      The story of Edward Jenner and the development of the smallpox vaccine is a testament to the power of scientific discovery and the importance of vaccination in preventing the spread of deadly diseases. Despite initial resistance and ethical concerns, Jenner's contributions have saved countless lives and paved the way for modern vaccine research. It's important to remember that vaccines are not only effective but also essential in protecting individuals and communities from preventable illnesses. The false association between vaccines and risks such as autism or mercury poisoning has been debunked, and it's crucial to prioritize the health and safety of ourselves and others by getting vaccinated.

    • Protecting Against Serious Diseases with VaccinesVaccines are crucial for preventing diseases, risks of vaccination are minimal, consult doctors for allergies or health concerns, contribute to herd immunity, debunked myths about vaccines causing autoimmune diseases or autism, and crucial for public health.

      Vaccines are essential for protecting against serious diseases, and the risks associated with getting vaccinated are significantly less than the risks of contracting the diseases themselves. It's important for individuals with allergies or other health concerns to consult their doctors before getting vaccinated, but for those who can, getting vaccinated contributes to herd immunity and helps protect those who cannot be vaccinated for health reasons. Misconceptions about vaccines causing autoimmune diseases or autism have been debunked by experts, and movies like Contagion provide a realistic portrayal of disease outbreaks and the role of epidemiologists in containing them. Overall, the importance of vaccines in preventing the spread of diseases and protecting public health cannot be overstated.

    • Effectiveness of disease control measures varies depending on disease characteristicsSARS quarantines effective due to symptomatic before infectious, but less so for influenza. Miscommunication and bats spread Ebola. Obesity recognized as a disease, chronic illnesses costly, complicating disease control.

      The effectiveness of disease control measures depends on the specific characteristics of the disease. For instance, during the SARS outbreak, quarantines at airports were effective because people showed symptoms before they were infectious. However, with a disease like influenza, people are infectious before showing symptoms, making quarantines less effective. Miscommunication between health organizations and local communities played a significant role in the spread of Ebola. Bats are a common source of zoonotic diseases due to their communal living and ability to disperse long distances. The medical community now recognizes obesity as a disease, and chronic illnesses receive more attention due to their high healthcare costs, which can lead to neglect of infectious diseases. The pathogen behind chronic illnesses like obesity can be seen as systemic issues like capitalism, making disease prevention and control more complex.

    • The Complexity of Chronic Diseases: Beyond Individual ChoicesRecognizing the role of gut microbiome, health disparities, and systemic issues in chronic diseases is crucial for a more holistic approach to prevention and treatment.

      The complex issues of chronic diseases, such as obesity and behavioral epidemics, are influenced by various factors beyond individual choices. Recent research suggests that our gut microbiome plays a role in these issues, and it's a fascinating area we're only beginning to understand. However, assessing risk factors and collecting data on behavioral epidemiology is challenging due to the difficulty of obtaining accurate information. Furthermore, health disparities and education disparities contribute to health literacy issues, making it harder for individuals to fully understand and utilize health information. Nutrition and gut biome are not given enough attention in Western medicine, which can lead to oversimplification of the problem. Lyme disease, another issue on the rise, is influenced by development and the changing structure of forests, leading to an increase in tick populations and transmission. These systemic issues underscore the complexity of chronic diseases and the need for a more holistic approach to understanding and addressing them.

    • CDC's innovative tick prevention tweet sparks controversyEffective science communication requires creativity, accuracy, and cultural sensitivity. Ticks pose a significant health risk, and Lyme disease is on the rise. Precautions should be taken to prevent tick bites.

      Effective communication in science outreach can be engaging, informative, and even entertaining, but it's important to consider potential misunderstandings or backlash. The CDC's tweet about tick prevention using a poppy seed muffin as a backdrop was an innovative attempt to raise awareness about Lyme disease, but it caused controversy and distraction from the important message. Ticks are tiny and can be difficult to spot, and they pose a significant health risk, particularly in areas with high deer and mouse populations. Lyme disease is on the rise, and it's important to take precautions to prevent tick bites. The spread of Lyme disease is complex, and it's influenced by factors such as suburbanization, climate change, and the presence of hosts that amplify tick populations. Chronic Lyme disease is a controversial and complex issue, and it's important for public health messaging to evolve as new information becomes available. Effective science communication requires creativity, accuracy, and cultural sensitivity.

    • The decline of epidemics follows a curveClimate change could lead to diseases spreading or becoming less common, but the exact implications are uncertain

      Epidemics, much like populations, follow a curve where they experience rapid growth and then decline. This decline can be due to a lack of susceptible individuals in the population or simply because the disease is no longer a pressing issue in the public eye. Chikungunya, a mosquito-borne disease similar to Zika and dengue, is an example of this phenomenon. As global warming continues to expose more diseases and humans contribute to our own destruction through shortsightedness, there are concerns about a potential massive population crash. Climate change is expected to impact infectious diseases, but the exact implications are still uncertain and depend on the specific disease and location. It could lead to diseases spreading to new areas or becoming more prevalent in certain regions, but it could also mean that some diseases become less common due to warmer temperatures. Ultimately, the relationship between climate change and epidemics is complex and still being studied.

    • Water scarcity and agricultural challengesWater scarcity and agricultural issues like access to clean water and potential crop failures could significantly impact global populations. Historical examples include ergot fungus, and current concerns include antibiotic resistance.

      Climate change and tick-borne diseases are important issues, but they may not be the most pressing problems humanity faces. Water scarcity and agricultural challenges, including access to clean water and potential crop failures, could have even more significant impacts on global populations. Ergot fungus, a grain fungus that can cause hallucinations and other symptoms, is one historical example of how diseases or toxins could influence human behavior. Another critical issue is antibiotic resistance, which is a major concern in both human and agricultural contexts. Personal actions, such as completing the full course of antibiotic prescriptions, and systemic changes, like reducing prophylactic antibiotic use in agriculture, are necessary to address these challenges.

    • Unexpected discoveries and solutions in lifeDespite challenges, unexpected discoveries and solutions can emerge in various aspects of life, from personal health to academia and beyond.

      Despite the challenges and frustrations in various aspects of life, there can still be unexpected discoveries and solutions. For instance, some people develop an allergy to meat after being bitten by the Lone Star tick, but the severity and duration of the allergy can vary greatly from person to person. In academia, researchers may feel disheartened by the culture and limitations, but they can still make a difference by applying their knowledge to help people and the environment. Even in the face of seemingly insurmountable problems, such as the proliferation of ticks and the limitations of the healthcare system, there is always room for learning, adaptation, and progress.

    • Finding joy and meaning in challenging workErin and Hannah find satisfaction in their fields despite challenges, emphasizing the importance of discovering answers to help people and forming supportive communities.

      Learning from this conversation between Allie Ward and her guests, Erin and Hannah, is the joy and satisfaction they find in their respective fields of study, despite the challenges they face. For Erin, the best part of her epidemiology work is the excitement of discovering answers to questions that can help people, even if it means enduring difficult field work. Allie, on the other hand, appreciates the opportunity to learn new things and be paid for it, even during the challenging times in grad school. They both express gratitude for their experiences and the opportunities they've been given, despite the hardships. Another theme that emerges is the importance of community and connection, as evidenced by the Ologies podcast group and the supportive relationships they've formed. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of finding joy and meaning in one's work, even in the face of challenges, and the value of building a supportive community.

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    Foraging Ecology (EATING WILD PLANTS) Encore with @BlackForager, Alexis Nikole Nelson

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