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    Episode 150 - Fentanyl: Can't Touch This?

    enJanuary 18, 2022

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    • Affordable high-quality products during challenging timesBoll and Branch offers soft organic cotton sheets, Quince provides ethical stylish goods, and Blue Nile sells lab-grown diamonds of equal quality to natural ones, all making luxury more accessible.

      Even in challenging times, there are ways to enjoy high-quality products without breaking the bank. Boll and Branch offers organic cotton sheets that get softer with every wash, allowing for a better sleep experience. Quince, on the other hand, provides stylish and ethical high-end goods at discounted prices. Meanwhile, Blue Nile offers lab-grown diamonds of equal quality to natural diamonds, making luxurious purchases more accessible. During the interview, Kaveh shared his experience recovering from COVID, emphasizing the importance of being vaccinated and boosted, as well as acknowledging the challenges even vaccinated individuals face with the virus. Despite the difficulties, the vaccines have proven effective in preventing severe illness and hospitalization.

    • Building strong immune memory with COVID-19 vaccinesGetting vaccinated against COVID-19 and receiving a booster shot is crucial for building strong immune memory and protection against new variants. Receiving the same brand for boosters is still effective, but mixing and matching might offer some benefits.

      Getting vaccinated against COVID-19 and receiving a booster shot is crucial for building strong immune memory and protection against new variants like omicron. The speakers in this conversation expressed their gratitude for the vaccines and shared their experiences with different vaccine brands. While mixing and matching vaccine brands for boosters might offer some benefits, receiving the same brand as previous doses is still effective. Some individuals, including doctors, try to gain attention and media coverage by expressing vaccine hesitancy or criticizing vaccine advocates, like Joe Rogan. However, these efforts often result in diminishing returns and are seen as part of a larger cycle of misinformation and profiteering. Overall, the evidence supports the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, and getting vaccinated and boosted is the best way to protect oneself and contribute to herd immunity.

    • Fentanyl doesn't absorb through skin significantlyFentanyl urban legend of absorption through skin is a myth, causing unnecessary fear and potential legal consequences

      Touching Fentanyl cannot lead to an overdose. Despite the urban legend that persists, Fentanyl does not absorb through the skin in any significant quantity or in any meaningful time frame. This misconception started around 2016, even though Fentanyl was in the drug supply in the 1970s without any significant concerns for this issue. As a medical toxicologist, Ryan Marino emphasizes that people only need to worry about Fentanyl if they are using drugs themselves. Lindsay Ellifson, a journalist and BuzzFeed news contributor, explores this myth in her article "Jail Time for an Imaginary Crime," where she shares various examples of people being wrongly accused or arrested for being near someone using Fentanyl. It's essential to understand the facts and separate fact from fiction to avoid unnecessary fear and potential legal consequences.

    • Officer's Fentanyl Overdose Claims: Approach with SkepticismVerify officer's fentanyl overdose claims through multiple sources and expert opinions to ensure accuracy.

      There have been numerous reports of law enforcement officers experiencing apparent fentanyl overdoses, but many of these stories lack secondary sources or factual verification. While speaking to an officer who claimed to have experienced an overdose, he was adamant about the incident's authenticity, but it's important to note that the officer's account has remained consistent since 2017. However, it's crucial to approach these stories with skepticism, as some have been found to be based on incorrect information. For instance, a popular story about a vape pen containing fentanyl that caused officers to pass out was later debunked. It's essential to verify these stories through multiple sources and expert opinions to ensure accuracy.

    • Law Enforcement's Belief in the Danger of FentanylLaw enforcement officers strongly believe in the threat of Fentanyl, a synthetic opioid that's easily produced and often added to other drugs, leading to accidental overdoses. Despite concerns, they remain committed to addressing it, as its availability has filled the gap left by decreased prescription opioid supply.

      Despite the concerns and skepticism of some experts, law enforcement officers strongly believe in the threat of Fentanyl and are receptive to the messaging about it. Fentanyl, a synthetic opioid, has replaced traditional opioids like heroin due to its ease of production and availability. It is often cut into other drugs or pressed into pills, leading to accidental overdoses. The reduction in the supply of traditional opioids, such as prescription opioids and benzos, has created a gap in the market that Fentanyl has filled. Law enforcement officers' belief in the danger of Fentanyl is sincere and adamant, despite a lack of noticeable changes since they started addressing the issue.

    • Police officer's exposure to substance leads to overdose, while suspects handling the same substance remain unaffectedSubstance effects can depend on individual tolerance and health conditions, making it important to consider various factors during investigations

      The effects of certain substances cannot be solely attributed to touch or ingestion. During an investigation into a drug-related incident, a police officer reported experiencing an overdose after coming into contact with a powdery substance. However, two suspects involved in the same incident were charged with tampering with evidence for handling the same substance and neither of them reported experiencing an overdose. The officer explained that one suspect, known to be a long-term drug user, may have built up a tolerance, allowing him to touch the substance without experiencing an overdose. However, this theory raises questions, as breathing problems for the other suspect, who did not use drugs, were also reported during the same incident. This incident highlights the complexities of substance use and its interactions with individual tolerance and health conditions.

    • Fentanyl's Dangerous Contact EffectsFentanyl can cause deadly overdoses even when it comes into contact with someone else's skin, contrary to beliefs of increased alertness or euphoria. Misconceptions about Fentanyl's effects can lead to dangerous practices and potential fatalities.

      Fentanyl, a potent opioid, can be deadly even when it comes into contact with someone else's skin. Contrary to popular belief, it doesn't cause increased alertness or euphoria when transferred to another person. Instead, it can lead to respiratory depression and potentially fatal overdoses. The discussion also highlighted that Fentanyl overdoses are characterized by a gradual loss of consciousness and decreased respiratory status. It's important to remember that administering Narcan to someone who is merely unconscious or has normal vital signs won't be effective. The conversation also touched upon the misconception that Fentanyl could be used for recreational purposes through sexual contact, emphasizing the importance of accurate information and avoiding dangerous practices.

    • Fear of Fentanyl hinders CPR in opioid overdosesFear of Fentanyl exposure may prevent people from helping opioid overdose victims due to perceived risk of overdosing. However, experts believe that these fears are largely unfounded and that effective CPR should not be withheld.

      The respiratory status is a crucial factor in opioid overdoses. Narcan, a lifesaving medication used to reverse overdoses, should be administered to unresponsive individuals without hesitation. However, there is a concern that the fear of coming into contact with opioids like Fentanyl may prevent people from performing CPR or helping those in need due to the perceived risk of overdosing from exposure. While some reports suggest that police officers have experienced reactions resembling overdoses after encountering Fentanyl, experts are skeptical, and it's more likely that these incidents are panic attacks. The increased fear of Fentanyl, instilled through trainings and media coverage, can lead to unnecessary panic and hinder effective responses to overdose situations.

    • Misdiagnosis of panic attacks and opioid overdosesMisunderstanding symptoms of panic attacks and opioid overdoses can lead to unnecessary use of naloxone. Placebo and nocebo effects can also play a role. It's crucial to educate and collaborate with first responders to prevent misdiagnosis and reduce unneeded interventions.

      The symptoms of a panic attack and the placebo effect can mimic those of an opioid overdose, leading to unnecessary use of naloxone. The nocebo effect, where one believes a substance will harm them and experiences physiological symptoms, could also be a factor. However, it's important to note that people may not be open to considering alternatives to an overdose, as they may feel they are being dismissive of a potential life-threatening situation. The use of the term "hero" to describe healthcare workers and first responders can be problematic, as it may oversimplify their roles and responsibilities. It's crucial to recognize that showing up to work during a pandemic or dealing with unknown substances is part of their job, and it doesn't equate to bravery. Naloxone is not difficult to obtain, and the process to get it may vary depending on the location and resources available. It's essential to continue efforts to educate and collaborate with law enforcement and other first responders about the risks and realities of opioid use and overdoses.

    • The Value of Knowledge and JournalismInvestigative reporting brings attention to important issues, equipping laypeople with resources and knowledge to make a difference. A strong online presence and standing up for beliefs are essential in today's world.

      Importance of being informed and educated about various issues, especially those that can impact people's health and wellbeing. Lindsay Ellifson, a journalist, shared her experiences of coming across free trainings and resources around major cities in the US that equip laypeople to carry and use a certain device, yet she questioned why this information isn't more widely known. This conversation underscores the value of investigative reporting and the role it plays in bringing attention to important issues that might otherwise go unnoticed. Additionally, the discussion touched on the significance of having a strong online presence and the importance of standing up for what one believes in. Overall, this conversation emphasized the power of knowledge, bravery, and the impact of journalism in creating awareness and driving positive change.

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