Episode 29: Kevin Walters, the "Diversity Chef"

Summary In this conversation, Mike Seidle and Denise Chaffin discuss the evolution of the recruiting industry and the rise of Recruitment as a Service (RAS). They explore the benefits and differences between RAS and traditional recruitment process outsourcing (RPO). The conversation also delves into the impact of AI on recruiting, including the use of AI tools for resume writing and the challenges of bias and compliance. They discuss the need for more comprehensive assessments of AI tools and platforms and the importance of trial periods to evaluate their effectiveness. The conversation explores various topics related to recruiting tools and the role of AI in the industry. It discusses the importance of trial periods and contracts, building trust in software, and the overwhelming number of tools available. The effectiveness of tools, the role of AI in recruiting, and the potential for bias in pattern recognition are also examined. The conversation emphasizes the human-centric nature of recruiting and the opportunities that arise in the field. It concludes with a discussion on developing a community for recruiters and the impactful book 'Never Split the Difference' and Denise's favorite movie 'The Wizard of Oz. Sections 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:12 Recruitment as a Service 06:22 Benefits of Recruitment as a Service 09:05 Evolution of the Recruiting Industry 11:24 Impact of AI on Recruiting 16:56 Incorporating AI into Recruitment Processes 19:54 AI Tools for Resume Writing 25:45 Concerns and Challenges with AI in Recruiting 31:36 Compliance and Bias in AI 35:50 Future of AI in Recruiting 39:09 Assessing AI Tools and Platforms 40:57 Trial Periods and Contracts 41:30 Building Trust in Software 42:28 The Overwhelming Number of Recruiting Tools 43:24 The Effectiveness of Recruiting Tools 44:24 The Role of AI in Recruiting Tools 45:31 Pattern Recognition and Bias 46:29 The Human-Centric Nature of Recruiting 47:18 Opportunities in the Recruiting Field 48:06 Developing a Community for Recruiters 48:57 The Impactful Book: Never Split the Difference 51:17 Favorite Movie: The Wizard of Oz Special Guest: Denise Chaffin.

Kevin Walters, also known as the "Diversity Chef", talks about his experiences with helping companies better understand how to be more inclusive to achieve their diversity goals. Diversity and Inclusion shouldn't be just afterthoughts for leaders. Not being inclusive can cut you off from potential customers and turn away talent. Kevin gives some clear tips on first recognizing if your organization has a inclusion issue and then what are the first steps to fixing it. Special Guest: Kevin Walters.

Chuck young talk about what made him found Talent Agility X which focuses on helping organizations adopt innovative talent acquisition strategies and technologies for more agile engagement of highly skilled workers. Chuck explains why it's so important for companies to re-engage seasonal employees and past applicants. He talks about the 3 different talent pools and how employers can nurture their talent effectively. Special Guest: Chuck Young.

Mitch Gerson of the Gerson Agency joins Mike and David in a conversation about his history in the recruitment marketing field, how and why he founded his own recruitment ad agency, and what the future holds for the industry. Special Guest: Mitch Gerson.

Craig, Mike and David covers various topics related to recruiting, including the importance of understanding the candidate experience, the value of empathy mapping to undersstand candidates better, and the need for effective team structure and budget allocation in recruiting teams. Craig also discuss the power of grassroots marketing and the importance of not overlooking traditional marketing methods when looking for talent. Learn more about and buy Craig's new book at www.hiring-humans.com Special Guest: Craig Fisher.

Mike Seidle, David Bernstein, and Jim Durbin discuss recruitment marketing and the importance of building long-term capability in talent acquisition. Jim Durbin emphasizes the need to focus on what's in it for the client and to help them learn how to do it for themselves. He also stresses the importance of listening to vendors and understanding what they do, rather than just waiting for a pitch and a demo. In addition, Jim highlights the challenges that job boards are facing in terms of job postings and the changes in the model. Companies are trying to figure out if job postings are actually falling or if there is a new normal for it. The transition to cost per application and some of the changes that job boards have made in the last 18 months have been too much for some companies. There is also a need for HR tech departments to upskill in order to work with job boards effectively. The interview also touches on the issue of fake profiles and AI fraud, which are major problems that the industry needs to prepare for. The infrastructure of most HR tech stacks is not ready for this, and there is a risk of identity breaches. It is crucial for companies to be vigilant about these issues and to take the necessary steps to protect their data. About Jim Durbin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimdurbin/ Special Guest: Jim Durbin.

Brian Fink talks about his latest book, Talk Tech to Me: The Non-technical Guide to Technology Recruiting (https://www.amazon.com/Talk-Tech-Non-Technical-Technology-Recruiting/dp/B0C8RFBT3Y). Brian Fink takes on the stress and strain of difficult technology concepts and simplifies them for the modern recruiter. In the book, he tackles 12 different technical positions he's recruited for including technical writers, software developers, DevOps engineers, site reliability engineers, data scientists, and architects. In this conversation with Mike Seidle and David Bernstein, Brian gives some tips and tricks on how to lead recruiting conversations with these candidates even if you don't have the same technical background. Special Guest: Brian Fink.

Welcome to the Pivot2First Podcast, your go-to source for all the latest trends, tips, and strategies in the world of recruitment. Join us as we chat with the leading experts in the industry about the latest recruitment tools, best practices, and more. So if you're looking to get ahead in the recruitment game, this is the place to be. Tune in every week for your dose of recruitment knowledge! We are thrilled to have Victor Assad as our guest. Victor is the Senior Director of HR at Honeywell and Medtronic, CEO of InnovationOne, and author of Hack Recruiting. He brings a wealth of experience and expertise to the table and will be sharing his insights on Hack Recruiting, his journey to InnovationOne, and what a culture of innovation is all about. Stay tuned for an insightful conversation! This epiosde we will cover: What is Hack Recruiting? link to Hack Recruiting  https://www.amazon.com/Hack-Recruiting-Empirical-Research-Digitization/dp/1480876712. Victo's journey to InnovationOne… So what is a culture of innovation? If I’m a CEO or leader, how do I know I need to shift to a culture of innovation Special Guest: Victor Assad .

Welcome to the Pivot2First Podcast, your go-to source for all the latest trends, tips, and strategies in the world of recruitment. Join us as we chat with the leading experts in the industry about the latest recruitment tools, best practices, and more. So if you're looking to get ahead in the recruitment game, this is the place to be. Tune in every week for your dose of recruitment knowledge! On this podcast episode, we have the pleasure of hosting Ira Wolfe, who has been a dentist and is now entered the world of HR. He shares his valuable insights on how the labor market has transformed. Wolfe discusses the challenges and opportunities that have emerged with the rise of automation and the growing demand for more specialized skills. He also touches on the importance of upskilling and reskilling for employees to stay relevant in today's ever-changing job market. Finally, Wolfe shares his thoughts on the role of HR in shaping the future of work and how companies can adapt to the changing trends in the labor market. Topics From Dentist to HR. Ira Wolfe's journey Ira Wolfe has been projecting exactly what is going on in the labor market since the 1990s. What has been happening Post pandemic labor market Special Guest: Ira Wolfe.

Welcome to the Pivot2First Podcast, your go-to source for all the latest trends, tips, and strategies in the world of recruitment. Join us as we chat with the leading experts in the industry about the latest recruitment tools, best practices, and more. So if you're looking to get ahead in the recruitment game, this is the place to be. Tune in every week for your dose of recruitment knowledge! Today, we are excited to have Kevin Grossman, a thought leader in human resources and talent management, join us. Kevin is the President of The Talent Board, an organization dedicated to elevating and promoting a quality candidate experience. He is also a frequent speaker, writer, and consultant on employer branding, employee engagement, and the future of work. We are looking forward to a great conversation with Kevin today! Topics Kevin Grossman tells us about his journey with the Talent Board and what it stands for. Candidate Experience. Why should CEOs care? Why does candidate experience get lost in the mix? What are we doing wrong when it comes to candidate experience? Book release Book Candidate Experience: How to Improve Talent Acquisition to Drive Business Performance. (https://www.koganpage.com/product/candidate-experience-9781398605336) Special Guests: David Bernstein and Kevin Grossman .