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    Exclusive interview with General David Petraeus, Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency

    enSeptember 09, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Ukraine's Military Progress Against RussiaUkraine has been making significant gains against Russia, with successes in areas like Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Chernihiv, while receiving substantial military support from the West. Despite Russian defensive tactics and extensive fortifications, Ukraine's resilience and determination to win the war continues.

      The Ukrainian forces have been making significant progress in the ongoing war against Russia, despite the costly battles and Russian defensive tactics in certain areas. General David Petraeus, a renowned military leader, believes that Ukraine has been winning back territory and successfully counter-attacking, most notably in the areas of Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Chernihiv. However, the Russians have shown effectiveness in defense, particularly in the south, where they have established a deep defense line with extensive anti-tank and anti-personnel mines, tank ditches, and dragon's teeth. The Ukrainians have received substantial military support from the West, with the US providing over $44 billion in arms, ammunition, and assistance. Despite the challenges, Ukraine's resilience and military successes demonstrate their determination to gain a decisive advantage on the battlefield and ultimately win the war.

    • Ukraine's Grinding Counteroffensive Against RussiaUkraine's counteroffensive against Russia is a slow, challenging process with significant gains made but not yet a failure. US support includes sanctions, economic measures, and military aid to help isolate Russian forces and cut communication lines.

      The ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia is a complex and challenging situation, with the counteroffensive being a difficult, grinding process. While significant gains have been made by Ukraine, it's premature to declare the offensive a failure. The Ukrainians are adapting by keeping the Russians engaged and stretched thin, rather than trying to bowl through their defenses. The lack of air cover and heavy armor makes progress slow, but the Ukrainians are determined to keep pushing forward. The US and its allies are providing support, including financial sanctions, economic measures, and military aid, but more is needed to help Ukraine isolate Russian forces and cut key communication lines. The conflict is expected to continue into the fall and possibly the winter, with the ultimate goal of isolating Crimea and changing the dynamics of the war.

    • Ukraine's Strategy to Counter Russian OffensivesUkraine targets Russian fuel, ammo, and communication points to weaken their defensive positions, making them vulnerable to attacks. Western allies provide aid and assistance to support Ukraine's counter-offensive efforts.

      The Ukrainian forces have been employing a strategy to "starve, trip, and strike" against the Russians, aiming to undermine their ability to fuel, feed, and rearm their troops. This tactic includes targeting Russian fuel depots, ammo supply points, headquarters, lines of communication, and bridges. The Ukrainians have also been attacking Russian artillery units and making good use of Western-provided assets. The ultimate goal is to make the Russians move out of their defensive positions, making them more vulnerable to attacks. The Ukrainian forces have been making progress in this counter-offensive, although it has been a challenging process. The strategic advisory council for the defense of Ukraine, which includes retired military generals, has been working to help governments understand the critical needs of the Ukrainian forces and facilitate aid and assistance. The US, UK, Germany, and several other countries have provided significant financial and military support to Ukraine.

    • Delays in Military Aid for UkraineUrgent decisions are needed to provide critical military equipment to Ukraine, considering the ongoing conflict's complexities and the approaching muddy season and winter.

      The decision-making process regarding military aid for Ukraine has taken longer than anticipated, leading to delays in providing critical equipment. This includes items like MLRS, cluster munitions, advanced drones, and air defense systems. While there have been concerns about escalation and provocation, it's crucial to accelerate these decisions to support Ukraine's defense against Russia. The war's geometry and the environment also play a significant role. The upcoming muddy season and winter could make movement more difficult and bring additional hardships for both sides. However, whether the geography favors Ukraine or the defender depends on whether Russian forces crack under the pressure and potentially collapse. The Ukrainians are fighting for their independence, and Russian soldiers may not be as committed to the cause. It's essential to continue monitoring the situation closely and providing necessary support to Ukraine.

    • Understanding the complexities of the Russian forces' resolve in UkraineThe Ukrainian conflict requires a multifaceted approach, involving diplomatic, economic, and military pressure to precipitate a Russian surrender, and learning from Soviet Afghanistan's eventual defeat serves as a reminder of the limits of military might.

      The ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia may not be as straightforward as it seems, and the key to resolution might lie in understanding the subtle signs of potential cracks in the Russian forces' resolve. The Ukrainians are actively trying to find ways to precipitate a Russian surrender, and the international community, including the US, can play a role by increasing pressure on Russia economically and diplomatically. The Soviet experience in Afghanistan serves as a reminder that even powerful military forces can ultimately admit defeat when the cost becomes too high. While Putin may see himself as a strong leader, he is not invincible, and there will likely come a point where he recognizes the futility of continuing the war. The battlefield in Ukraine is a hybrid of traditional and modern warfare, with the use of drones, social media, and smartphones adding new dimensions to the conflict. Ultimately, a comprehensive approach that includes diplomatic, economic, and military pressure is necessary to bring about a resolution and avoid a new frozen conflict.

    • The complex geopolitical situation in Afghanistan made the withdrawal challengingDespite a potential peace deal, lack of understanding of human terrain, resources, and organizational structure led to chaos after US withdrawal.

      The complex geopolitical situation in Afghanistan, including underlying dynamics and external influences, made the withdrawal from the country challenging and ultimately led to chaos. The understanding of the human terrain and tribal structures was developed late in the war, and the lack of resources and proper organizational architecture hindered effective intervention. The presence of Taliban and Haqqani network sanctuaries in neighboring regions, along with the challenging context of low revenue, limited infrastructure, and high illiteracy rate, made for a particularly difficult situation. A sustainable way forward may have existed when the Doha agreement was struck, but it was not pursued. The withdrawal of US forces and contractors ultimately left the Afghans without support, leading to the current state of affairs.

    • Consequences of hasty U.S. withdrawal from AfghanistanThe hasty U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan led to the collapse of Afghan forces, the release of Taliban detainees, and a population unable to participate in the economy. A sustainable alternative, keeping a small number of troops, would have been preferable.

      The hasty withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, as seen in the discussion, had disastrous consequences. The lack of appreciation for the importance of continued support for Afghan forces led to their collapse, and the release of 5,000 Taliban detainees in exchange for the agreement to allow U.S. troops to leave was a shameful episode. The sustainable alternative, keeping a small number of troops, would have been preferable to the current situation, where half the population is unable to participate in the economy and the Taliban harbor known terrorists. Regarding Putin, he is a grievance-filled, revisionist leader who justifies brutal invasions of neighboring countries. Determining who could take him down and what would follow is a complex issue, with potential outcomes ranging from a hardliner taking over and continuing imperialist ventures to a weakened Putin unable to engage in such activities. The implications of Putin's removal or weakening are significant, as Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Analyzing these issues comes with many cautions and qualifications.

    • Russia's Economic and Military Challenges Amidst Ukraine ConflictRussia's isolation from the global economy and brain drain are making it difficult to sustain oil production and gas exports, while the EU and Western countries have cut off natural gas supplies and many firms have left. The conflict in Ukraine is a bridge to the future of warfare, with a focus on unmanned systems in air, sea, ground, space, and cyberspace.

      The ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and the international response to it, is leading Russia towards a challenging economic and military future. Russia's isolation from the global economy and brain drain are making it difficult for the country to sustain its crude oil production and natural gas exports, which are major sources of overseas earnings. The European Union and Western countries have successfully cut off natural gas supplies, and many American and Western firms have left Russia or reduced their presence. Moreover, there's a significant brain drain and military draft evasion, which further undermines Russia's military capabilities. Russia's President Putin is not yet convinced of the unsustainability of the conflict, but historical parallels and the evolution of warfare suggest that the future of warfare will involve seeing, hitting, and killing everything, making it crucial for Russia to transition to a vastly greater number of unmanned systems, not just in the air but on the surface of the sea, subsurface, ground, space, and cyberspace. The ongoing conflict in Ukraine serves as a bridge between the past and future of warfare, with glimpses of the future already visible.

    • Hybrid Warfare in Eastern Europe: Past, Present, and FutureHybrid warfare in Eastern Europe involves a mix of traditional and modern tactics, advanced technology, intelligence from social media, and clandestine activities, making it a complex and ever-evolving conflict.

      The ongoing conflict in Eastern Europe between Russia and Ukraine represents a hybrid warfare scenario, where elements of the past, present, and future are intertwined. While technology such as drones, optics, and computers have advanced, traditional warfare tactics like trenches and minefields are still in use. The intelligence battlefield has also evolved, with open source intelligence from social media and aggregated websites playing a significant role. However, understanding the intentions of key players like Vladimir Putin remains a challenge despite the wealth of available information. The intelligence services continue to engage in clandestine activities, and the use of big data presents new challenges for analysis and assessment. Overall, the conflict serves as a reminder of the complex and ever-evolving nature of modern warfare.

    • The complexities of modern espionage and intelligence gatheringRussia continues intelligence activities, past conflicts influence international relations, China poses short-term and long-term threats, and a mutually beneficial relationship between the West and China is crucial for the current world order.

      The world of espionage and intelligence gathering has become significantly more complex in the face of advanced technology and surveillance states. Traditional tradecraft is no longer effective, as everything is connected and data is constantly being captured. Russia, for instance, has continued its intelligence activities despite the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the shadow of past conflicts, such as Iraq and Afghanistan, still influences international relations and gives countries like Russia and China moral power. Looking ahead, China poses both short-term and long-term threats, with issues like Taiwan and broader areas of friction causing concern. However, it is crucial for the West and China to strive for a mutually beneficial relationship, as tensions could lead to existential threats to the current world order.

    • US-China Relationship: Preventing Conflicts and Promoting StabilityThe US and China's relationship is complex and significant, requiring deterrence and communication to prevent conflicts and promote stability. The US, allies, and partners must ensure effective deterrence and invest in capabilities, while the UK continues its global role with diplomacy, intelligence, and special operations.

      The relationship between the US and China is a complex and significant issue that poses a challenge to the rules-based international order. Beijing's stated goals include promoting their political ideology and system, which could undermine this order. To prevent potential conflicts, there is a need for deterrence and communication between the two countries. The US, along with its allies and partners, must ensure that deterrence is effective and work towards a more even keel in the relationship. Additionally, the UK, as a key player, should continue to invest in capabilities that underpin its global role, such as its diplomatic corps, intelligence, and special operations. Ultimately, the goal is to find a mutually beneficial relationship and avoid enabling activities that could benefit a potential adversary. This is a challenging issue, but one that requires continued attention and effort from all involved.

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      Staying informed about the latest news and developments in Ukraine is easier and more accessible than ever before through various platforms like The Telegraph's website and podcast. For those interested in Ukraine news, they can sign up for the Dispatchers newsletter, follow updates on the Ukraine live block, or listen to the weekly podcast. The podcast offers insights from award-winning foreign correspondents and can be accessed on various podcast apps. Additionally, listeners are encouraged to leave reviews and share their listening locations. Another key takeaway is the importance of being prepared for unexpected changes in life, such as job loss or missed open enrollment for health insurance. UnitedHealthcare Tri Term Medical plans offer budget-friendly, flexible coverage for these situations, lasting nearly 3 years in some states with access to a nationwide network of doctors and hospitals. Lastly, for businesses looking to streamline their mailing processes, stamps.com offers a no-brainer solution with up to 89% off USPS and UPS shipping through their mobile app. Over one million other businesses have made the same decision, making stamps.com a reliable choice for businesses of all sizes. Use code "program" for a special offer.

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    Roland Oliphant (Senior Foreign Correspondent). @RolandOliphant on X.


    With thanks to Peter Pomeransev. @peterpomeranzev on X.

    Peter's book, How to Win an Information War, is out now.


    Antony Beevor on Putin’s Stalin-like blunders, Lenin and Hitler: https://youtu.be/DFW5V4IB_PA


    Two Year Anniversary Special, Live from Kyiv:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LutJ6UwFvAg 


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    Ukraine hails 'historic step' as EU takes Kyiv closer to membership & understanding a war time budget

    Ukraine hails 'historic step' as EU takes Kyiv closer to membership & understanding a war time budget

    Day 621.

    Today, we bring you the latest updates from Ukraine, discuss the news that Ukraine has been formally recommended for EU membership and we deep-dive into Ukraine’s war time budget. 


    Contributors:

    David Knowles (Host). @djknowles22 on Twitter.

    Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on Twitter.

    Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on Twitter.

    Joe Barnes (Brussels Correspondent). @Barnes_Joe Twitter.

    With thanks to Yurii Gaidai, Senior Economist at the Centre for Economic Strategy.


    Read more: https://www.hudson.org/foreign-policy/fourteen-facts-about-us-aid-support-cost-ukraine-luke-coffey


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