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    From the Vault: Carnivorous Plants

    enOctober 06, 2018

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    • The fear of killer trees in fiction and realityTrees, due to their size and potential danger, can instill fear in us, whether in fiction or reality, and the idea of animate or conscious trees amplifies this fear.

      Trees, whether in fiction or reality, can be perceived as "killer" due to their size, potential danger, and even the fear of them becoming animate and turning against us. The description of a tree with smooth, white, eye-shaped hollows and digestive enzymes is an example of a killer tree in a fantasy context. In reality, trees can cause damage and even loss of life when they fall. The fear of trees turning against us is amplified by their size and the potential for animate or conscious trees, as seen in movies like Poltergeist. This fear is not unfounded, as trees can indeed pose a significant threat, especially when they become large, old, and unstable. The idea of killer trees, whether in fiction or reality, taps into our primal fears and highlights the power and unpredictability of nature.

    • Discussing Animate Trees and Murderous Plants in FilmsFilms like 'The Druid' and others depict animate trees and murderous plants, often involving sacrifice and contamination. Examples include 'The Last Unicorn,' 'The Ruins,' and 'Evil Dead,' as well as Middle Eastern folklore about jidra. The unique cinematic possibilities of man-eating plants are also explored.

      The discussion revolves around the theme of animate trees and murderous plants in various films. The conversation mentions "The Druid" directed by William Friedkin, where an evil druid sacrifices babies to a killer tree. The tree absorbs the babies' faces into its surface. The film is considered part of a fictional druidsploitation genre. Other films with similar elements include "The Last Unicorn," "The Ruins," and "Evil Dead." These films often involve plants that not only attack but also contaminate their victims. Examples include man-eating vines, animate trees, and carnivorous plants. Many of these examples are from modern fictional inventions, but there are also mentions of jidra, a Middle Eastern folklore where plants become animate and man-killing in foreign environments. The conversation also highlights the technical possibilities and unique aspects of man-eating plants in cinema.

    • Man-eating Plants and Trees in MythologyMyths of man-eating plants or trees date back to ancient times, depicting rooted creatures consuming humans. Originating from the mandrake, these stories challenge our understanding of nature and push boundaries of imagination.

      Throughout history, there have been myths and stories about man-eating plants or trees, such as the Jidra. These stories often describe these creatures as emerging from the ground, rooted in place, and consuming anything in their vicinity, including humans. The only way to kill them is to detach them from their root. The origin of these myths may be influenced by the mandrake, an animal-vegetable hybrid creature. Despite the abundance of myths about monstrous creatures in history, there seems to be a lack of clear examples of man-eating plants in the works of ancient historians like Pliny the Elder. The appeal of man-eating plant or tree stories lies in their taboo nature, as they involve a crossing of categories that is not typically found in nature. These stories challenge our understanding of what is possible and push the boundaries of our imagination.

    • Reports of impossible food chainsHistorical accounts of carnivorous plants or trees consuming humans may lack credibility, but they remind us of nature's mysteries and challenges to our understanding.

      Throughout history, there have been reports of seemingly impossible or even reversed food chain situations, such as trees or plants consuming humans. While many of these accounts lack credibility, they highlight our fascination with the natural world and the unexpected ways it can challenge our understanding. For instance, in the 1800s, James William Buell's book "Sea and Land" contained allegations of a carnivorous plant that consumed humans. Although such accounts may be exaggerated or inaccurate, they serve as reminders of the wonders and potential dangers that exist in the natural world.

    • Mythical Man-Eating Plants and TreesDespite tales of man-eating plants and trees throughout history, there's no solid evidence to support their existence. Many elements, like carnivorous plants, have some basis in reality, but others, like trees with writhing tentacles, are likely fabrications or exaggerations.

      The discussion revolves around the description of mythical man-eating plants and trees, as presented in various accounts throughout history. While some elements, such as the idea of carnivorous plants and their "sprung traps," can be reasonable, many other aspects, like trees with writhing tentacles or the use of trees for punishment, are likely fabrications or massive exaggerations. The comparison of these plants to medieval torture devices like the Iron Maiden further highlights the unlikely nature of these stories. It's essential to remember that there is no solid evidence to support the existence of such trees or plants, and the biological sense behind their proposed survival tactics is questionable. The discussion also mentions that these accounts are not unique, as there are other supposedly true stories of exotic man-eating trees from foreign lands.

    • European tales of man-eating plants may be more fantasy than factEuropean explorers' accounts of man-eating plants are likely literary fabrications, driven by colonial xenophobia and a desire for the exotic.

      The idea of man-eating plants, as depicted in various accounts from European explorers, may have more to do with colonial xenophobia and a desire for the exotic, rather than factual evidence. An account of a man-eating plant in Madagascar, described in graphic detail, is likely a literary fabrication, despite some belief in its legitimacy. Similar stories exist of man-eating trees in other parts of the world, and while the concept is intriguing, it may carry an "ickiness" factor for modern readers, implying a belief that such phenomena belong in distant, savage lands. The desire to believe in these stories may stem from a sense of superiority over nature, rather than a genuine curiosity or scientific inquiry.

    • Adapting to Less Than Ideal ConditionsIntel and certain plants showcase the importance of adaptation and innovation in acquiring necessary nutrients when the environment falls short, be it through AI implementation or insect digestion

      Both Intel and certain types of plants, despite being able to produce their own energy, have the capability to acquire nutrients through unconventional means. For Intel, it's through the implementation of AI in various industries, while for these carnivorous plants, it's by trapping and digesting insects. The need for these additional nutrients arises when the environment lacks sufficient essential nutrients. This underscores the importance of adaptation and innovation, whether it's in technology or in nature, to thrive in less than ideal conditions. Stay tuned to Technically Speaking and the Michigan Chronicle Digital Daily to learn more about groundbreaking advancements and authentic stories that challenge the status quo.

    • The Importance of Essential Nutrients for Humans and PlantsHumans and plants need essential nutrients to thrive, with vitamin C crucial for humans and nitrogen for plants. Some plants, like oyster mushrooms and carnivorous ones, adapt to obtain nutrients through convergent evolution.

      Both humans and plants require essential nutrients to thrive, and when these nutrients are lacking, health issues can arise. For humans, a vitamin C deficiency can lead to symptoms such as dry, splitting hair, rough skin, inflamed gums, nosebleeds, and slow wound healing. In extreme cases, this can result in scurvy. Plants, on the other hand, need nitrogen to grow properly. If the soil is nitrogen poor, plants can suffer from a nitrogen deficiency, which can result in stunted growth, yellowing leaves, and wilted structures. To survive, some plants, like oyster mushrooms, have adapted to prey on insects or other sources of nutrients. This phenomenon, where different species independently evolve similar traits, is called convergent evolution. Carnivorous plants, which use this strategy to obtain nutrients, come in various forms, such as snap traps (like Venus flytraps) and other methods. It's important to note that the average person does not consume spiders while sleeping, as is commonly believed. This is a myth. Overall, the importance of essential nutrients for both humans and plants highlights the interconnectedness of all life forms.

    • Carnivorous Plants: Monstrous Yet Beautiful Survival MachinesCarnivorous plants like Venus flytraps and pitcher plants have unique methods to capture prey, pollinated by insects, and have fascinating survival mechanisms, with no evidence of giant prehistoric carnivorous plants.

      Carnivorous plants, such as Venus flytraps and pitcher plants, have unique methods of capturing prey, with Venus flytraps using snap traps and pitcher plants using pitfall traps filled with digestive enzymes. These plants have a long history with insects serving as pollinators and some of the earliest evidence of carnivorous plants may be a pitcher plant from the mid-Cretaceous period. Despite popular imagery, there is no fossil evidence of giant carnivorous plants from prehistory. Carnivorous plants continue to fascinate with their monstrous yet beautiful features, such as the lobster trap plants that trap creatures using special structures. The intricacies of these plants' survival mechanisms highlight the incredible diversity and adaptability of the natural world.

    • Carnivorous Plants: Unique Adaptations for SurvivalCarnivorous plants, such as pitcher plants, sticky traps, and suction traps, have unique methods to capture and consume prey. Proto carnivorous plants are part of the family, but not yet fully capable of digesting meals. Treat these plants and animals with care and respect.

      Carnivorous plants come in various types, each with unique methods for capturing and consuming prey. These include pitcher plants with openings that may seem like an easy exit but are actually traps, sticky traps that use a substance to catch insects, and suction traps with hinge doors and trigger hairs. Proto carnivorous plants, which are not yet fully capable of digesting their meals, are also part of the carnivorous plant family. The discussion also touched upon the importance of treating these plants and animals with care and respect, even if they are not typically considered beneficial to humans. The various types of carnivorous plants demonstrate the fascinating ways in which nature adapts to its environment to survive.

    • Fig wasps and fig trees: A mutualistic relationshipFig trees and fig wasps have a complex, mutually beneficial relationship where fig wasps pollinate fig trees and fig trees provide food and shelter for fig wasps, resulting in increased nutrient intake for the fig tree

      Fig trees and fig wasps have a complex, mutualistic relationship. Fig trees rely on fig wasps to transport pollen between plants, while fig wasps find their only source of food and shelter within fig trees. The fig tree's structure, called a zirconium, acts as an inverted flower with all parts located inside. Once a female fig wasp enters the zirconium, she must navigate a narrow passage to lay her eggs. If she ends up in an edible fig, she will eventually die, but she does deliver the pollen. If she enters a male fig, her eggs will develop into male and female wasps, which then emerge and fly out to find new figs carrying pollen. When a female wasp dies inside an edible fig, the fig digests her carcass, making it a part of the resulting fruit. This process provides fig trees with an additional source of nutrients, making it an efficient use of resources in this mutualistic relationship.

    • Exploring AI advancements in various industries and authentic storytelling in the black communityIntel is pioneering AI technology in industries like medicine, healthcare, retail, entertainment, and personal computing. Stay informed and empowered through authentic storytelling and elevating black voices in the Michigan Chronicle Digital Daily.

      Artificial intelligence (AI) is at the forefront of the future technology landscape, and Intel is leading the charge in implementing AI to revolutionize various industries, including medicine, health care, retail, entertainment, and personal computing. The latest episode of Technically Speaking, an Intel podcast, explores these advancements and features interviews with industry pioneers. Meanwhile, the Michigan Chronicle Digital Daily emphasizes the importance of staying informed, empowered, and connected within the black community through authentic storytelling and elevating black voices. An interesting research study from 2016, published in Scientific Reports, focused on the genus Drosera, or sundews, which are carnivorous plants with sticky traps. The study investigated how these plants manage to attract pollinators without trapping and killing them. The solution? They offer different visual, spatial, and chemical signals to attract non-pollinators to the traps, allowing a balance between capturing prey and ensuring pollination. For those interested in carnivorous plants that prey on vertebrates, the puyachilensis, a bromeliad plant native to the arid parts of the Andes in South America, is one of the alleged examples. Stay tuned for more fascinating discoveries and advancements in technology and science.

    • Plant Trapping Myths and FactsWhile some plants like Puya puyachilensis are rumored to trap and kill large animals, there is little scientific evidence to support this claim. Nepenthes, however, have pitfall traps that primarily target insects but can sometimes trap larger animals. Some species of Nepenthes even have symbiotic relationships with animals for nutrient exchange.

      While the "sheep eating plant" or Puya puyachilensis has been widely reported to trap and kill large animals like sheep, there is a lack of scientific evidence to support this claim. The plant, which resembles a giant pineapple, has been known to use its sharp spines to trap smaller insects for fertilization. However, the idea of it trapping and killing large animals seems more like a myth or coincidence. On the other hand, Nepenthes, the tropical pitcher plants, are known to have pitfall traps that primarily target insects. However, there have been instances where larger animals, such as rodents and even monkeys, have fallen into these traps. While these incidents are rare, they demonstrate the adaptability of these plants to utilize larger prey when available. Additionally, some species of Nepenthes have a symbiotic relationship with birds, bats, and shrews, where the animals deposit nutrient-rich feces into the pitchers, providing the plants with essential nutrients.

    • The Misconception of Pitcher Plants Trapping Humans or Large MammalsPitcher plants cannot trap or kill humans or large mammals, but the concept of proto-carnivorous plants trapping animals for predators to scavenge is an intriguing theory worth investigating.

      While pitcher plants are known to trap and digest small animals for nutrients, there is no evidence to suggest that they are capable of trapping and killing large mammals or humans. However, the concept of proto-carnivorous plants, such as blackberry brambles, trapping and holding animals long enough for predators to scavenge, is an intriguing theory worth exploring further. The idea is that the animals, unable to escape, could be held captive by the plants long enough for predators to consume parts of them, leaving the rest to rot and provide nutrients. This is purely speculative and requires further scientific investigation to determine if it is an adaptation that has evolved through natural selection.

    • Carnivorous Plants: Surviving in Inhospitable ConditionsCarnivorous plants may develop carnivorous traits to survive in nutrient-poor environments, but scaling up to capture larger prey presents engineering challenges, and the possibility of proto-carnivory exists.

      The evolution of carnivorous plants, like the fig tree or the death's claw, could potentially be explained by their environment and nutrient needs. These plants may develop carnivorous traits as a means to survive in inhospitable conditions where essential nutrients are scarce. However, scaling up fast-moving plant body parts to capture larger prey, such as humans or bears, presents engineering challenges. The plant would need an immense amount of compression force to hold in a larger creature, and it's unclear why such an extravagant morphological contrivance would evolve. Additionally, the discussion touched upon the possibility of a plant exhibiting proto-carnivory, starting with accidental snagging of animals, and eventually evolving into full carnivory. The death's claw, a grapple plant, was used as an example of a species that has evolved to use animals to spread its seeds over long distances without causing harm to them. Overall, the conversation emphasized the fascinating adaptations of carnivorous plants and the complex interplay between plant evolution, environmental conditions, and animal interactions.

    • The human-sized snap trap in nature is unlikelyCarnivorous plants exist but haven't evolved to depend on large prey due to added effort and decreased advantage. Man-eating plants are more fiction than fact.

      The idea of a human-sized snap trap evolving in nature is unlikely. Carnivorous plants do exist, but they typically rely on smaller prey and have not evolved to depend on increasingly larger and rarer specimens due to the added effort and decreased advantage to their evolutionary ascent. The concept of a man-eating plant is more often found in fiction and mythology rather than in scientific reality. While it's possible to engineer such a plant in the future, it would not naturally arise in nature. Instead, the focus of evolution is on survival and reproduction, and organisms will not tend to grow larger unless there is a clear advantage to doing so. The discussion also touched on various fictional and mythological scenarios involving carnivorous plants, highlighting the fascination humans have with the idea of plants that can trap and consume animals.

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