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    From the Vault: Oh Goat, You Devil - Part 2

    enOctober 12, 2023

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    • Building strong community connections and exploring goats in folklore and mediaIn uncertain times, fostering community bonds and discovering the unique stories behind creatures like goats can bring meaning and connection

      Even in an uncertain world, building strong community connections is essential. Neighbor to Neighbor, a California volunteer's network, emphasizes the importance of relying on neighbors for social bonds and disaster preparedness. Meanwhile, in a different context, the goat is a creature with gentle reality but a darker image in mythology and folklore. Goats have been portrayed as demonic or half-human hybrids in various films and literature. Despite their infrequent appearance in horror movies compared to cats or dogs, they leave a lasting impression with their unique and often terrifying depictions. In summary, whether it's growing a connected community or exploring the intriguing representations of goats in folklore and media, there's always something meaningful to discover.

    • Complex portrayals of fauns and satyrs in 'The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe'The book and film versions of 'The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe' present fauns and satyrs as compassionate and heroic figures, not just for their sexual connotations.

      Both the book "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" by C.S. Lewis and its adaptations, particularly the 2005 film version with James McAvoy's portrayal of Mr. Tumnus, have complex and intriguing representations of mythological creatures, including fauns and satyrs. Although these creatures can have sexual connotations, the portrayals in the book and film are not solely focused on that aspect. Instead, they depict compassionate and even heroic figures, such as Mr. Tumnus, who ultimately help the main characters. The poem "The Satyr" by Lewis, which he wrote as a young atheist, also explores the sublime qualities of the satyr, adding another layer to the exploration of these creatures in Lewis's works. Overall, these stories offer rich and complex portrayals of mythological creatures that go beyond simple sexual connotations.

    • The origin of the term 'scapegoat' comes from the Latin word 'scapegoatius' meaning 'goatlike' and the biblical ritual of the Day of AtonementThe biblical ritual of the Day of Atonement, where a goat was used as a scapegoat to symbolically remove sins from the community, may have influenced the cultural perception of goats as having a connection to the devil or wickedness.

      The association between goats and devilish or wicked impulses in Western culture may have roots in the biblical tradition, specifically the Day of Atonement ritual in the Hebrew Bible. During this ritual, two goats were used: one was sacrificed to the Lord for purification, and the other became a "scapegoat," a vessel for the sins of the Jewish people. This goat was then driven out into the wilderness, symbolizing the removal of sins from the community. The origin of the term "scapegoat" comes from this ritual. The satyr from "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" can be seen as a representation of the animalistic and potentially wicked side of goats, while Mr. Tumnus, the faun, shows that a man can control these impulses and treat a woman with kindness. This biblical tradition may have influenced the cultural perception of goats as having a connection to the devil or wickedness.

    • The Azazel goat and its association with demons in ancient Jewish traditionThe Azazel goat, a symbol of defilement and wickedness in Jewish Yom Kippur ritual, may have influenced later depictions of hell and the association between goats and underworld creatures.

      The biblical figure Azazel, in the context of the Yom Kippur ritual, can be interpreted as a supernatural entity or demon, symbolizing defilement and wickedness. The goat carrying the sins of the people was believed to be sent to meet this demon in the desert. This interpretation may have influenced later depictions of hell and the association between goats and creatures of the underworld. The practice of acknowledging a thought or feeling and then letting it go, as in the meditation exercise "leaves on a stream," may have parallels with this ancient religious ritual. The imagery of the goat being sent to meet a demon in the desert could make encounters with feral goats or other domestic animals gone wild seem haunting or eerie. The scapegoat ritual, involving the expulsion of sins, is not unique to Jewish tradition and can be found in various ancient cultures.

    • Ancient Greek festival of Thargalia and modern community-building effortsCommunities have long sought ways to cope with uncertainty and foster bonds, from ancient rituals to modern initiatives, and finding solutions to challenges is crucial for both individual and collective growth.

      Throughout history, communities have looked for ways to cope with uncertainty and foster social bonds. An ancient Greek example is the festival of Thargalia, where a couple would be selected and paraded as scapegoats to transfer guilt and impurity onto them before banishing them. Today, organizations like Neighbor to Neighbor encourage building stronger communities by helping neighbors connect and support each other. Meanwhile, modern solutions like Astepro's fast-acting allergy spray offer relief from physical discomfort, allowing individuals to focus on their connections. In the Bible, the metaphor of separating the sheep from the goats symbolizes judgment and distinction between the righteous and the wicked. These examples demonstrate the importance of community, connection, and finding solutions to challenges, whether historical, modern, or spiritual.

    • Parable of the Sheep and the GoatsThe parable emphasizes the importance of caring for others as if they were caring for Christ himself, leading to separation between the righteous and unrighteous.

      The parable of the Sheep and the Goats in the Bible is a metaphor for separating the righteous from the unrighteous. The sheep represent the righteous who will inherit the kingdom of God, while the goats represent the unrighteous who will be annihilated. The reason for the use of goats and sheep in this context is unclear, with theories suggesting agricultural reasons or differences in reproduction rates. However, the main focus of the parable is on the separation and the actions of individuals towards the least of their brothers and sisters. The parable emphasizes the importance of caring for others as if they were caring for Christ himself. The underlying message is one of compassion, kindness, and service to others.

    • Goats in Folklore and MythologyGoats held significant symbolic meaning in various folklore and mythologies, representing both mischievous creatures and divine or supernatural entities. They were often used as euphemisms for Satan and the devil, and their image was depicted as goat-headed men or goat-man creatures.

      Goats have held significant symbolic meaning in various folklore and mythologies throughout history. While some depictions portray goats as mischievous creatures visiting the devil to have their beards combed, others associate them with divine or supernatural entities. Goats were often used as euphemisms for Satan and the devil in European folklore, and their image was frequently depicted as a robed goat-headed man. In literature, such as Daniel Defoe's Robinson Crusoe, goats appeared alongside references to the devil. Additionally, there were goat-man type creatures like the Bachman and Krampus, used as nursery bogeys to keep children away from the forest. These diverse representations reflect the complex and multifaceted role goats played in folklore and mythology.

    • Goats in Mythology and Folklore: From Benevolent Protectors to Malevolent CreaturesGoats have played various roles in mythology and folklore, from benevolent protectors to malevolent creatures, and their interpretations can differ greatly between cultures.

      Throughout history and folklore, goats have held various roles from being benevolent protectors to malevolent creatures designed to scare children into good behavior. Goats have been depicted as seductresses in Scottish Gaelic mythology with the glistig, and as terrifying creatures that roam lonely roads in Irish folklore with the buccanach. In Norse mythology, goats pull Thor's chariot across the skies. However, interpretations of these creatures can vary, and the translation of mythological creatures from different cultures may take on different forms, as seen with the yale or centicore. Additionally, goats have been used as a base point for interpreting new creatures in distant lands. The zlaturaga, a white golden horned goat from Slovenian traditions, is a fabulous creature with real gold horns that has eluded hunters and may lead them to their demise. Overall, goats have held significant roles in various mythologies and folklore, and their interpretations can range from benevolent to malevolent.

    • A Slovenian Beer's Mascot and Drinking CultureThe gold horn creature represents a Slovenian beer's identity, while the division between Union and Lashco bars and the custom of bringing unlabeled wine to social gatherings showcase unique aspects of Slovenian drinking culture.

      The gold horn creature, also known as the mascot of a Slovenian beer called Zlatarog, was once a significant part of the beer drinking culture in Slovenia. The speaker shared his personal experience of trying this beer while in Slovenia, where he noticed a division between bars selling Union and Lashco beer. He consumed Lashco beer, possibly the Zlatarog variety, but cannot be certain. The speaker also mentioned the common practice of bringing unlabeled jugs of wine to social gatherings in Slovenia, and his appreciation for trying the local beer while traveling. Overall, the speaker's story highlights the unique experiences and traditions surrounding beer and drinking culture in Slovenia. If you have had the Zlatarog beer or have experiences to share about drinking culture in Slovenia, please do let us know.

    • Goats' spiritual roles in mythologies and culturesDespite negative stereotypes, goats hold spiritual and protective roles in various mythologies and cultures, such as Mari in Basque mythology and the xishi in Chinese traditions.

      Goats hold significant spiritual and protective roles in various mythologies and cultures, contradicting the demonic stereotypes often associated with them. For instance, in Basque mythology, there's a protector deity named Mari, who is sometimes represented by a black billy goat figure. This goat spirit is believed to guard people's livestock and protect their flocks. In Chinese traditions, there's a sacred goat-like creature called the xishi, often translated as a unicorn. The xishi is a benevolent and holy figure in Chinese folklore. These examples demonstrate that goats are not inherently malevolent creatures and that their spiritual significance extends beyond the negative connotations commonly attributed to them. Additionally, the discussion highlighted Visible, a wireless carrier offering transparency and affordability, emphasizing the importance of understanding the true nature of things based on their essential qualities rather than superficial labels.

    • Goats in Mythology and CultureGoats have played important roles in various mythologies and cultures throughout history, symbolizing divine beings, offerings to deities, and more.

      Goats have held significant roles in various cultures and mythologies throughout history. From ancient civilizations like Greece and China, to Indian traditions in Hinduism, goats have been depicted as divine creatures, vehicles for gods, and even transformed beings. The goat's image and symbolism vary, with some depictions resembling goats with humanoid features, while others resemble animals with distinct goat-like morphology. In some mythologies, goats are associated with sacrifice and are offerings to deities. The goat's presence in human traditions has led to a rich tapestry of folklore, mythology, and symbolism. Whether viewed as divine beings or as offerings, the goat continues to capture our imagination and fascination.

    • Exploring Goats and Community Connections on Stuff to Blow Your MindListeners can engage with the podcast through feedback, suggestions, and personal experiences, while building community connections through Neighbor to Neighbor. The podcast covers a wide range of topics, including goats in 'The Devil Rides Out,' and is sponsored by Visible's wireless plan.

      The hosts of Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast welcome listeners with diverse backgrounds and experiences to share insights on the various traditions and topics they discuss, including goats. The podcast covers a wide range of episodes, from core discussions to short form facts, listener mail, and weird films. One film that stands out is "The Devil Rides Out," which features goat people. Listeners are encouraged to engage with the podcast by writing in with feedback, suggestions, and personal experiences. The hosts believe that building community connections is important, and they encourage listeners to visit Neighbor to Neighbor to learn how they can grow their community. The podcast is produced by iHeartRadio, and listeners can find it on various podcast platforms. The hosts are currently working on their 90th film for the Weird House Cinema segment. Visible is a sponsor of the podcast, offering a transparent wireless plan with unlimited 5G data for $25 a month. For more information, listeners can visit visible.com.

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