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    GE’s Legacy & Lessons for Investors

    enJanuary 22, 2023
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    • Myths and Legends of GE's FoundingGE's history is filled with myths about its founding, including the belief that Thomas Edison was a founder. The truth is that Charles Coffin was the first executive and GE's success was not due to any single individual but a combination of factors and leadership changes.

      Myths and legends have played a significant role in shaping the narrative of General Electric (GE) throughout its history. One notable example is the common belief that Thomas Edison was a founder of the company, which is not true. Edison actually opposed the merger that created GE and quickly sold his resulting stock. Instead, the first executive was Charles Coffin. Despite this and other myths, GE grew to become one of the largest companies in American history. However, finding a successful CEO has been a major challenge for the company. Jack Welch, a former CEO, went through an unusual process to secure the position, including participating in a letter-writing contest. Cohen's book, "Power Failure," delves deeper into the origins of GE and the factors that led to its decline. Despite recent mergers and acquisitions, Cohen believes a merger between Warner Brothers Discovery and Comcast is inevitable for GE's future. Overall, the story of GE serves as a reminder that the truth behind corporate legends may not always be as glamorous as the myths that surround them.

    • Selecting a CEO Successor: A Complex and Psychologically Challenging ProcessSuccess of CEO selection depends on multifaceted assessment of candidate's abilities, character, and potential to lead.

      The process of selecting a CEO successor can be a complex and psychologically challenging endeavor, even for highly intelligent and experienced individuals. The fear of being outperformed or overshadowed by a successor can influence their decision-making. Jack Welch, for instance, may have had mixed feelings about his successor, Jeff Immelt, despite initially endorsing him. People's performance in high-pressure roles can be unpredictable, and some individuals may excel at winning approval but struggle once in the job. Despite his abrasive style, Welch was appreciated by many for his support, encouragement of dissenting opinions, and opportunities for professional growth. However, it's important to remember that not everyone's experience with him was positive. Ultimately, the success of a CEO selection hinges on a multifaceted assessment of the candidate's abilities, character, and potential to lead.

    • Jack Welch's consistency in meeting earnings estimatesJack Welch's consistent earnings reports earned him a cult-like following among Wall Street analysts, contributing to GE's reputation as the most valuable and respected company in the world.

      Jack Welch's consistency in meeting earnings estimates was a significant factor in the success and reputation of General Electric during his tenure. Welch's ability to meet earnings estimates to the penny or over, but never under, for 80 straight quarters was a major reason why GE was considered the most valuable and respected company in the world. This consistency earned Welch a cult-like following among Wall Street analysts, who came to rely on his promises of earnings numbers. While some may view this as earnings manipulation, Welch's determination to meet these numbers was a driving force behind GE's success during his leadership.

    • Leveraging GE Capital for Earnings GrowthJack Welch and Jeff Immelt utilized GE Capital to contribute significantly to GE's earnings, with Welch using GE's AAA credit rating to borrow cheaply and lend expensively, and Immelt continuing this strategy despite facing challenges like the 9/11 attacks.

      Jack Welch and Jeff Immelt, two former CEOs of General Electric (GE), effectively utilized GE Capital to drive earnings growth. Before Welch took over, Kitter Peabody, a Wall Street investment bank that joined GE, experienced a culture clash with GE Capital. Both Welch and Immelt leveraged GE Capital to meet earnings targets. Welch, an engineer with no finance background, excelled at using GE's AAA credit rating to borrow cheaply and lend expensively, generating significant earnings. By the time Immelt took over, GE Capital accounted for 40-50% of GE's earnings. However, Immelt faced misfortune when he started as CEO on September 10, 2001, and the following day, the world changed with the 9/11 attacks. Despite their different experiences, both Welch and Immelt effectively used GE Capital to boost earnings.

    • Jeff Immelt's Misjudgments at GE Capital During the 2008 Financial CrisisJeff Immelt's overconfidence and underestimation of risks in GE Capital led to significant financial losses during the 2008 crisis, requiring government intervention and costing him his job.

      Jeff Immelt's tenure at GE was marked by his underestimation of the risks in GE Capital and his overconfidence in his abilities, which led to significant financial losses during the 2008 financial crisis. Despite facing challenges such as the aftermath of 9/11 and the passage of the Sarbanes Oxley Act, GE Capital continued to perform, but Immelt lacked the same understanding and expertise as his predecessor Jack Welch. During the crisis, Immelt had to beg for government intervention to save GE Capital, which became a Systemically Important Financial Institution (SIFI), and he deeply resented the price paid for this protection. Immelt's insistence on a $2 a share goal for GE, which he couldn't deliver, ultimately cost him his job. An anecdote from Immelt's leadership style is his forcing a reluctant security guard, Ed Galenic, to climb Mount Kilimanjaro with him, illustrating Immelt's disregard for opposing opinions. I did not have the opportunity to ask Immelt about his side of the story regarding the Kilimanjaro incident.

    • Jeff Immelt's Personal Involvement in GE's Business DealsImmelt's intense focus on GE extended to personal matters, like forcing an employee to climb Mount Kilimanjaro, and his sale of NBC Universal is similar to Warner Brothers Discovery's current cost-cutting measures, possibly indicating potential sales or mergers.

      Jeff Immelt's leadership at GE extended beyond business deals to personal matters, as evidenced by his forcing Ed Gallenich to climb Mount Kilimanjaro for his daughter's graduation wish, which nearly killed Gallenich. This incident reflects Immelt's intense focus on GE and its impact on his personal relationships. Additionally, Immelt's sale of NBC Universal, which he described as a necessary luxury, shares similarities with Warner Brothers Discovery's current cost-cutting measures. While Immelt's perspective on NBC Universal's sale may be debated, the parallels between the two situations suggest that Warner Brothers Discovery may be preparing for potential sale or mergers.

    • NBC Universal and Warner merger: An InevitabilityDespite current restrictions, a merger between NBC Universal and Warner Brothers is likely due to industry competition and the financial burdens of their leaders.

      NBC Universal and Warner Brothers Discovery, both facing challenges from larger tech companies and needing to compete with media giants like Disney, are likely to merge in the future despite current restrictions. The merger would allow them to combine resources and better compete in the industry. David Zaslav, Warner Brothers Discovery's CEO, may be motivated to make the deal due to the financial burden of taking on $55 billion in debt from AT&T. Brian Roberts, Comcast's CEO, has historically aimed to grow Comcast into a $200 billion market value company, and acquiring NBC Universal was seen as a bargain at the time. The competitive landscape and the ambitions of the leaders involved make a merger between these corporations an inevitability, even though it may not happen right away. However, it's important to note that corporations do not have to merge and can continue to operate independently.

    • Forming a streaming industry powerhouse through a Comcast-Discovery mergerThe potential merger between Comcast's NBCUniversal and Discovery could result in a significant competitor against Disney and Apple, with debt spread out and increased cash flow.

      The potential merger between Comcast's NBCUniversal and Discovery could create a major competitor in the streaming industry against Disney and Apple, allowing for the spreading out of debt and increased cash flow. However, this merger would likely require Comcast to control a majority stake due to Brian Roberts' desire for ownership control. Regarding General Electric, the corporate autopsy identifies several key moments leading to its downfall, including the sale of NBCUniversal in 2009 without an auction, the overpayment for Alstom, the forced sale of GE Capital, and the bringing in of Nelson Peltz as an activist investor. The time of death for GE, according to the discussion, is around 2017 when Jeff Immelt was fired, even though the company's demise took a few more years to fully materialize.

    • GE's Rise and Fall: A Complex Business SagaWilliam Cohen's book 'Power Failure' explores GE's transformation from a powerful American icon to a company facing challenges, highlighting leadership, corporate scandals, and adaptability in business.

      Key takeaway from this discussion with William Cohen, the author of "Power Failure: The Rise and Fall of an American Icon" and co-founder of Puck, is the fascinating history of General Electric (GE) and its transformation from a powerful American icon into a company facing significant challenges. Cohen's book provides a thorough and engaging account of GE's rise to prominence under the leadership of Jack Welch and its subsequent fall due to various factors, including corporate scandals and mismanagement. This discussion serves as a reminder of the complexities of business leadership and the importance of adaptability in an ever-changing business landscape. Listeners are encouraged to read "Power Failure" for a more in-depth understanding of this American business saga. Lastly, please remember that Motley Fool staff members may have investments in the companies discussed, and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against certain stocks. Therefore, do not make investment decisions based solely on this program.

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    Vad ska Bibiche ge barnen? Johan Bergendorff, global hälsokorrespondent

    Vad ska Bibiche ge barnen? Johan Bergendorff, global hälsokorrespondent

    En julhälsning Sveriges Radios globala hälsokorrespondent.

    Lyssna på alla avsnitt i Sveriges Radio Play.

    Henning ställde in hinkarna. Ropade att barnen skulle ta på sig ordentligt och komma ut – han hade en överraskning”.

    “Sedan placerade Henning Agge längst fram, satte sig själv med ryggen mot de bakre stolparna och tog Emelie i knäet. Sköt dem framåt med klackarna, kände farten öka, höll tag om barnen som skrek av förtjusning.”

    “[...] så for de iväg igen, den branta sista biten av Stora Bondegatan ner till Barnängsbryggan och ut på isen. Där fick Henning bråttom att bromsa, några risker ville ha inte ta”.

    Jag har precis läst om Per Anders Fogelströms underbara bok “Mina drömmars stad”, om hur det var att leva i Stockholm på 1860- och 1870-talen. Om den unge Henning som får tre barn med sin Lotten, och hur de försöker klara sig, trots smus och övergrepp och trångboddhet, trots tbc och smittkoppor, svält och extremt hårt arbete.

    Det gäller att se till att barnen har nått att äta, är hela och rena och får gå i skolan så de kan få ett jobb som förhoppningsvis ger dem ett bättre liv.

    Lille Agge som satt på kälken skulle kunnat vara min farfarsfar, det är inte längre sen än så.

    Som global hälsokorrespondent har jag träffat många fattiga föräldrar som gör allt för att deras barn ska överleva och få en ljusare framtid. Jag tänker till exempel på 25-åriga Bibiche i Goma i Demokratiska republiken Kongo som jag mötte i våras. Hon har nio barn och har tvingats fly undan gerillakriget i Kivuprovinsen där det nu också sprids ebola.

    Bibiche jobbar med att bära saker till marknaden. För det får hon några kronor om dagen.

    – Jag är så orolig för barnen, de får så lite att äta, som om de vore kycklingar, säger Bibiche.

    När vårdpersonalen på sjukstugan mäter hennes tvååriga son och treåriga dotters magra överarmar visar måttbandet rött. Barnen väger bara sju-åtta kilo, det dubbla vore normalt. Om undernäringen pågår länge kommer deras hjärnor utvecklas sämre och de får svårt att klara skolan.

    Det är lätt att känna förtvivlan. Men Bibiche och hennes barns situation är trots allt undantag, även om det fortfarande gäller upp mot en miljard människor på jorden. Det stora flertalet har trots allt fått det mycket bättre.

    Medelåldern i Stockholm på 1860-talet var runt 40 år.

    – Alla länder på jorden har högre medellivslängd än för tvåhundra år sedan, så världen har blivit friskare och rikare, men skillnaderna mellan de rikaste och fattigaste länderna är fortfarande enorm, förklarar bortgångne professor Hans Rosling i en av sina berömda föreläsningar.

    Det finns inget land på jorden idag som har lägre medellivslängd än drygt 50, och det är bättre än de allra bästa länderna på 1860-talet som alla fanns i Norden.

    Det är fem miljoner fler barn idag som överlever sin femårsdag än i början av 2000-talet, tack vare vaccinering och barnmorskor, rent vatten och bättre mat. Global ekonomisk tillväxt blandat med tuffa FN-mål och bistånd har hjälpt. Nya världsmålet är att all svår fattigdom utrotas inom tio år och att ingen dör av enkelt botbara sjukdomar.

    Utopiskt, men fullt möjligt om världens resurser fördelas en smula mer jämlikt, enligt FN.

    Han räckte henne det tunna paketet. Emelie stannade i gathörnet, vecklade upp pappret. Stod och såg på näsduken som var så fin och mjuk, silkeslen.

    Det är ett E, viskade hon” i boken “Mina drömmars stad”.

    Jag undrar vad Bibiche i Kongo ska ge sina barn till jul? Hennes två kronor om dagen räcker knappt till mat. Musikhjälpen samlade in över 50 miljoner kronor i år. Biståndsbudgeten är på över 40 miljarder kronor. Svenska folket är generösa vilket glädjer många som har det svårt. Kanske kan även Bibiche få hjälp?

    En riktigt god jul tillönskar jag er alla,