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    Helping Adoptees Heal from Addiction's Grasp With David Bohl - Ep 129

    enJanuary 22, 2024
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    About this Episode

    "Change can happen incrementally, and oftentimes it's better that it does. We've heard the cliche 'trust the process.' Oftentimes the process is the most important thing." - David Bohl

    Join relinquishee/adoptee recovery coach David Bohl as he confronts the paradox of finding trust and healing in the intersection of adoption and addiction. He guides individuals towards healthy coping mechanisms and support in the face of deep-rooted trauma.

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Understand the possible impacts of adoption trauma on mental health and addiction.

    • Embrace TRUST as a key component in the journey to recovery.

    • Explore the unique challenges of addiction for adopted people.

    • Find safe and supportive communities for healing and growth.

    My special guest is David Bohl

    Meet David B. Bohl, an expert in addiction and adoption, whose personal journey through addiction recovery and exploration of the complex intersection between adoption and addiction brings a unique blend of empathy and expertise to our conversation. With a background that includes serving on the boards of prominent addiction and adoption organizations and receiving credentials from esteemed organizations like the Hazelton Betty Ford Graduate School of Addiction Studies, David's insights are informed, compassionate, and relatable. His memoir, Parallel Universes, and nonfiction book, Relinquishment and Addiction: What Trauma Has to Do with It, not only solidify his expertise but also highlight his commitment to providing support for individuals affected by adoption and addiction. David's balanced approach to destigmatizing addiction and promoting recovery reflects his genuine passion for helping others navigate their healing journey.

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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

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    Embracing trust in recovery -

    David emphasizes the crucial role of trust in recovery. From his own experiences, he realized that as an adoptee he had struggled to trust himself, others, and Higher Powers. His recovery journey was initiated by a process of rebuilding trust and finding healthier ways to deal with life's stressors. This topic is important as it underscores the concept that trust serves as a fundamental pillar in the path to recovery.

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introduction and Background
    Beth introduces herself, and acknowledges her and her son Joe's commitment to helping those impacted by adoption. She also introduces David Bohl as a guest who has struggled and recovered from addiction.

    00:01:00 - David's Adoption Story and Addiction
    David shares his adoption story of being relinquished at birth and adopted, as well as his struggles with alcohol and nicotine addiction. He highlights the impact of trust issues stemming from his relinquishment and adoption experiences.

    00:03:42 - Destigmatizing Addiction
    David discusses the need to destigmatize addiction and use everyday language to describe and address addiction issues. He emphasizes the importance of building trust and using more accepting language in recovery programs.

    00:07:29 - Recovery and Identity Formation
    David shares his journey of recovery, emphasizing the expansion of his identity from a disconnected individual to someone who has learned healthy coping mechanisms and repaired fractured relationships. He highlights the ongoing process of identity formation in recovery.

    00:08:52 - Understanding Relinquishment and Addiction
    Beth expresses empathy for the depth of pain experienced by relinquished individuals and acknowledges the tough challenge of dealing with disconnection from a young age. David emphasizes that addiction is simply a problem to be solved and discusses the need for understanding and support in addressing addiction issues.

    00:12:08 - Importance of Safe Communities and Validation
    David emphasizes the importance of finding safe communities and getting validated in adoption spaces. He explains how it allows individuals to understand different perspectives and get to know themselves better, but also highlights that it is just the minimum needed to start healing.

    00:13:26 - Stabilizing the Situation
    David discusses the need to stabilize the situation in addiction treatment, emphasizing the importance of eliminating unhealthy behaviors and perceptions while enhancing one's ability to feel good about themselves and their place in the world. He stresses the need for careful discussions and robust community support.

    00:15:04 - Addiction and Adoption Constellation Support Group
    David shares insights about the addiction and adoption constellation support group he runs with Celia Center. He explains the purpose of the group, emphasizing the importance of creating a safe place, validating experiences, and facilitating robust discussions within the adoption constellation community.

    00:18:33 - Resources and Support for the Adoption Constellation
    David discusses the availability of resources and support for the adoption constellation community, emphasizing the importance of raising awareness, providing psychoeducation, and letting people know about the various resources that now exist, especially through virtual platforms like Zoom.

    00:20:32 - Helping Adopted Individuals in Addiction
    David shares his approach to helping adopted individuals struggling with addiction, emphasizing the importance of finding someone to trust, getting clear on what's working and what's not, setting up goals, identifying outcomes, and providing resources and support to help individuals overcome their challenges

    00:23:40 - Introduction to Recovery Coaching
    David Bohl discusses his role as a recovery consultant and coach, offering support and resources for those struggling with addiction.

    00:24:50 - Reach Out for Help
    David emphasizes the importance of seeking help and finding resources that work for each individual, encouraging listeners to reach out and find support.

    00:25:34 - Be Gentle with Yourself
    David shares a message of self-compassion and incremental change, reminding listeners to be gentle with themselves and trust the healing process.

    00:26:30 - Coaching Groups for Adoptive Parents
    Beth invites adoptive parents to join coaching groups focused on supporting teens and young adults struggling with addiction, as well as nurturing identity and making connections for younger children.

    00:27:39 - Conclusion and Call to Action
    Beth encourages listeners to share the episode with those who may benefit from the important discussion on addiction, and expresses gratitude to David for his wisdom and mentorship.

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    00:16:08 - Masking True Self
    00:17:44 - Feeling Displaced
    00:18:27 - Seeking Community and Support
    00:20:30 - Advice for Adoptive Parents
    00:22:37 - Discovery of Parents' Knowledge
    00:24:04 - Emotional Impact of Revelation
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    šŸ“¢ Town Hall coming up on March 10, 2024 šŸ“¢

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    Episode Summary

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    Listeners are encouraged to engage with the LGBTQ+ adoptee community, seek support from advocacy organizations, and participate in upcoming events like the town hall meeting addressing the safety and well-being of adopted children.

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    Timestamps:

    00:00:02 - Introduction to Unraveling Adoption
    00:01:15 - Embracing LGBTQ+ Voices
    00:01:37 - Early Childhood and Adoption Story
    00:02:14 - Growing Up in a Conservative Community
    00:03:35 - Coming Out as LGBTQ+
    00:04:39 - Navigating Relationships After Coming Out
    00:05:03 - Challenges of Coming Out Again in Reunion
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    00:07:53 - Coming Out to Friends
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    00:12:29 - Beginning the Search for Biological Family
    00:13:55 - Receiving Information from Adoptee Groups
    00:14:58 - Reunion Process Initiation
    00:15:48 - Emotional Response to Reunion News
    00:16:00 - Initial Contact with Birth Family
    00:17:00 - Concerns About Reunion and Acceptance
    00:18:27 - Authenticity in Reunion Process
    00:19:00 - Emotional Reunion Moment
    00:20:36 - Acceptance and Unconditional Love
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    Food Behaviors and Adoption Trauma with Rebecca Berg - Ep 134

    "The root of the work, I would say, is really slowing down and learning how to sit with the discomfort of different sensations in the body." -- Rebecca Berg

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    Read this episode's transcript: https://app.swellai.com/t/tp_01HQC31S90118VY2NM91EADH9Q

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    Synopsis

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    My special guest is Nelson de Witt

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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

    Email questions or comments to Beth@UnravelingAdoption.com

    Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube

    Support Unraveling Adoption on Patreon: Patreon.com/UnravelingAdoption

    Check out our website: www.UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introduction and Background
    Beth introduces the podcast and herself as an adoptive mom, along with her guest Nelson de Witt. Nelson shares his experience of being separated from his birth family during El Salvador's civil war and being reunited with them at the age of 16.

    00:01:09 - Growing Up and Discovery
    Nelson talks about growing up in his adoptive family, being told he was adopted, and the mystery surrounding his adoption. He shares the shocking news of being reunited with his biological family and the intense emotions and overwhelming experience of meeting them for the first time.

    00:04:18 - Adoption and Reunion
    Nelson's adoptive parents share the harrowing discovery of Nelson's origins, including his parents being revolutionaries in the civil war, the kidnapping of a businessman, and the tragic events that led to Nelson being put up for adoption in the United States.

    00:10:30 - Complexities of Central American History
    Nelson delves into the complex history of conflict in Central America, highlighting the repressive government, violent suppression of activists, and the desperate measures people took to fight back, including taking up arms as a last resort.

    00:13:26 - The Disappeared and Forced Disappearances
    Nelson explains the term "disappeared" and its origin, detailing how individuals were forcibly abducted by the state as a tactic of fear or intimidation during the civil war in El Salvador. He also shares personal accounts of friends who were taken at gunpoint.

    00:14:40 - Forced Disappearance in Central and South America
    Nelson discusses the backdrop of the term "disappeared" (Desaparacido) and the cultural significance rooted in families missing loved ones. Over 100,000 people have been forcibly disappeared since 1950, with the majority presumed dead.

    00:16:08 - The Unresolved Mystery
    Nelson shares his experience of being reunited with his birth father at 16, who knew about his survival and adoption but had no idea about what happened to his wife and child. The unresolved fate of his birth mother is a lingering question.

    00:18:27 - Reconnecting with Birth Family
    Nelson reflects on his incredible journey of reuniting with his birth family and the challenges and excitement of embracing a new culture. He acknowledges the support and difficulty faced by his adoptive parents throughout the process.

    00:21:26 - The Nature of Adoption
    Nelson emphasizes the importance of acknowledging an adoptee's history and roots, beyond the nurture received from adoptive parents. He shares the positive impact of being allowed to explore his birthright in Central America.

    00:25:19 - Continuing Issue of Forced Disappearances
    The conversation ends on a poignant note as Nelson highlights the ongoing issue of forced disappearances in Central and South America to this day. He calls for awareness and support to make necessary changes.

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    Love is an action. It's not always pink and it's not always red. Sometimes it gets black, sometimes it gets blue. But love is an action. - Alicia Murray

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    • Discover the profound importance of sibling connections in adoption.

    • Embrace the value of openness in adoption and birth family connections.

    • Find out how to provide essential post-adoption services and support.

    • Uncover the challenges and realities of adopting older children.

    My special guest is Alicia Murray

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    Embrace openness in adoption
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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

    Email questions or comments to Beth@UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Check out our website: www.UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introduction and Background
    Beth Syverson introduces herself as an adoptive mom and certified coach. Guest, Alicia Murray, shares her experience of being adopted at age ten after multiple foster placements.

    00:00:51 - Alicia's Foster Experience
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    00:04:17 - Reconnecting with Biological Family
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    00:11:20 - Finding Purpose and Healing
    Alicia shares her journey of healing and finding purpose through therapy, introspection, and pursuing a career in foster care and adoption. She reflects on how her own experiences have shaped her approach as a foster and adoptive parent.

    00:13:37 - Fostering and Adoption Journey
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    00:14:07 - Importance of Open Adoption
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    00:15:53 - Challenges of Closed Adoption
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    00:17:33 - Building Relationships with Birth Parents
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    00:21:29 - Post-Adoption Support Services
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    00:25:25 - Empathy and Triggering
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    00:27:51 - Challenges of Adoptive Parenting
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    00:30:19 - The Journey of Older Adopted Children
    Beth shares her personal experience of navigating through challenging years with her adopted child and the transformation she witnessed as he's grown into adulthood. She stresses the importance of support and understanding for older adopted children, as well as the ongoing learning process for parents.

    00:32:35 - Support for Adoptive Families
    Alicia discusses the resources and support provided by her organization, AFFCNY, for adoptive parents, foster parents, and teens. She encourages listeners to explore the services available and consider contributing to the nonprofit organizations, AFFCNY, and Wendy's Wonderful Kids, to help support their initiatives.

    00:33:46 - Importance of Inclusion and Support
    Beth and Alicia express the importance of including the voices of older adopted children in conversations about adoption and advocating for their needs. They emphasize the significance of understanding the complexities of adoption and supporting organizations that work towards enhancing the lives of adoptees and foster youth.

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    A Twice-Adopted Personā€™s Path Toward Wholeness with Julian Washio-Collette - Ep 131

    "I started meditating a lot, and eventually doing retreats, eventually going to monasteries, spending some time in a Zen Buddhist meditation center. So, yeah, I think that's kind of where I took my pain, my anguish, my existential questions, and I think there's some ambiguity there. I think there's also a kind of escapism, because I didn't know how to connect with the world or address questions that other people my age were addressing. Like livelihood, relationships, family. I just sat on a cushion." - Julian Washio Collette

    Can you imagine the weight of not belonging and carrying the trauma of multiple abandonments? The struggle to find a sense of identity and stability after being adopted and then relinquished and adopted again is incredibly challenging. The lack of control over your own story and the feeling of being failed by the system can leave deep emotional scars. Julian's life story will help you understand the impacts of relinquishment, and will make you aware of the importance of finding support and community to help navigate the complexities of adoption.

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    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Understand the unique challenges of being a double adoptee and how it shapes one's identity.

    • Explore the profound impact of abandonment and abuse on adoptees and their journey to healing.

    • Gain insight into the complexities of adoption and the importance of understanding its nuances.

    • Discover the need for better support systems for adoptees and how it can positively impact their lives.

    • Learn about the lifelong impact of multiple abandonments and how it shapes the adoptee's perspective and experiences.

    My special guest is Julian Washio-Collette

    Julian Washio-Collette, a former Catholic monk currently residing in Portland, Oregon, is our guest for this episode. As a double adoptee, Julian's personal journey of being adopted as an infant and then again at the age of nine provides a unique perspective on the complexities of adoption. With a passion for writing about spirituality, adoption, and healing, Julian's insights and experiences contribute to a deeper understanding of the challenges faced by individuals impacted by adoption or abandonment. His story sheds light on the resilience and strength needed to navigate such intricate circumstances, making him a valuable voice in the conversation around adoption.

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    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    • Visit Julian's blog site called Peregrine Adoptee to read his insightful writings about spirituality, adoption, and healing: peregrineadoptee.wordpress.com

    • Explore the Unraveling Adoption website to find information about upcoming events, webinars, and workshops related to adoption and healing, including Mee Ok Icaro's upcoming webinar about Sacred Plant Medicine 101 for the Adoption Constellation: unravelingadoption.com/events

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    Other Resources:

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    Unique Challenges of Double Adoptees
    The unique challenges faced by double adoptees like Julian Washio-Collette are centered around the absence of family continuity and frequent displacement. The uncertainty, disconnection, and confusion induced by double adoptions can leave deep psychological scars. Their unprecedented experiences urge us to shed light on the hidden complexities of double adoption and foster understanding about their distinct needs and perspectives.

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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

    Email questions or comments to Beth@UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introduction and Background
    Beth introduces herself as an adoptive mom and certified coach. Julian's background as a double adoptee is highlighted, setting the stage for a complex and impactful story.

    00:01:21 - Julian's Early Life
    Julian shares details about his first adoption and the secrecy surrounding his birth and early years. The lack of information about his early life creates a sense of fuzziness and identity dissonance.

    00:05:16 - Second Adoption and Family Dynamics
    Julian recounts the circumstances of his second adoption at the age of nine and the abusive environment in his second adoptive family. The lack of support and bond with his adoptive parents led to a feeling of survival mode for both him and his sister.

    00:09:29 - Support Systems and Coping Mechanisms
    Beth and Julian discuss the absence of support for him from social workers, teachers, and extended family members. Julian's coping mechanisms, including withdrawal, guilt, and finding solace in punk music and skateboarding, are highlighted.

    00:11:55 - Surviving and Coping
    Julian reflects on how he navigated through his challenging childhood, highlighting the lack of genuine bond with his adoptive parents and the role of music and skateboarding as outlets for emotional expression and physical activity.

    00:13:32 - Early Years and Spiritual Exploration
    Julian shares his journey from skateboarding and punk rock shows to discovering healing and spirituality. He discusses his involvement in 12-step programs and Zen Buddhist meditation before becoming a Catholic monk.

    00:15:28 - Escaping Into Spirituality
    Julian reflects on using meditation and retreats as a way to escape from addressing societal and personal questions. He discusses his codependent relationships and the concept of "abandaholic."

    00:17:13 - Transition to Catholicism and Monastic Life
    Julian describes his intuitive decision to join a Catholic monastery and the impactful spiritual experience he had there. He explains his connection to the writings of Julian of Norwich and the significance of choosing the name Julian.

    00:19:24 - Cultural Inheritance and Homecoming
    Julian shares his experience of feeling a sense of homecoming to his native religion and cultural heritage at the monastery. He discusses the power of symbolism, rituals, and the impact of his Italian background on his spiritual journey.

    00:23:19 - The Impact of Closed Adoptions
    Julian discusses the lack of care and concern within the adoption system, highlighting the failures of the closed adoption process. He emphasizes the need for change and the impact on both adoptees and birth mothers.

    Breaking Free: Reclaiming Identity as an Intercountry Adoptee with Sariah Baker - Ep 130

    Breaking Free: Reclaiming Identity as an Intercountry Adoptee with Sariah Baker - Ep 130

    ā€œI think for adoptees, my biggest advice for them is to ask if you need something. Whether it be therapy, whether it's understanding your story, whether it's being able to know your identity, ask. And if they don't want to tell you, keep asking.ā€ -- Sariah Baker

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Understand the profound influence of adoption trauma on self-identity and self-worth.

    • Discover the unique struggles and triumphs faced by intercountry adoptees in the LGBTQ+ community.

    • Recognize the pivotal role adoptive parents play in supporting the unique needs and experiences of intercountry adoptees.

    • Learn about effective therapeutic approaches that empower intercountry adoptees to navigate their complex identities and experiences.

    • Ā Observe a journey of self-discovery and personal growth as an intercountry adoptee sheds limiting labels and societal expectations.

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    My special guest is Sariah Baker

    Sariah Baker, a 31-year-old human resources manager living in Portland, Oregon, brings a unique perspective to the complexities of intercountry and interracial adoption. As an intercountry adoptee from China, raised in a white Mormon family, Sariah's story delves into the intricate layers of identity she has navigated throughout her life. Her experiences offer valuable insights into the challenges and triumphs of finding and embracing one's true identity.

    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    Other resources:

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    Uncovering the Impact of Adoption Trauma
    Adoption trauma can have long-lasting effects on an adoptee. It can shake one's self-perception and fuel internal struggles, particularly in relation to identity. Helping adoptees navigate and heal from such trauma requires understanding, patience, and therapeutic intervention.

    Embracing the Vital Role of Adoptive Parents
    Adoptive parents play a crucial role in mitigating the impacts of adoption trauma and providing an accepting space for their children. They hold the responsibility of fostering open communication, providing emotional support, and celebrating the unique backgrounds of their adoptees. Proper understanding and support from adoptive parents can significantly aid in an adoptee's journey towards self-acceptance and self-discovery.

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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

    Email questions or comments to Beth@UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introduction and Background
    Beth introduces the podcast and the guest, Sariah Baker, an intercountry adoptee from China raised in a white Mormon family. Sariah briefly shares her background and the circumstances of her adoption.

    00:02:47 - Challenges of Adoption
    Sariah discusses the complexities of her adoption, including the traumatic experiences in the orphanage and the challenges of being raised in a white Mormon family as a Chinese adoptee.

    00:06:53 - Struggles with Identity and Trauma
    Sariah shares her struggles with trauma, perfectionism, and navigating her sexuality within the context of her Mormon upbringing, leading to emotional pain and self-medication with large quantities of Ibuprofen.

    00:10:15 - Seeking Help and Recovery
    Sariah recounts seeking help for her mental health struggles and the impact of institutional treatment on breaking free from perfectionism and allowing herself to feel emotions.

    00:11:28 - The Dangers of Self-Medication
    Sariah and Beth discuss the dangers of self-medication with Ibuprofen, highlighting the need for parents to secure over-the-counter medications and the underlying psychological need for control in such situations.

    00:12:04 - Overcoming Struggles with Therapy
    Sariah shares her experience with therapy, including DBT (Dialectical Behavior Therapy) and talk therapy, to overcome feelings of perfectionism and unmask her true self.

    00:13:24 - Faith Crisis and Identity Struggle
    Sariah discusses her struggle with her faith and identity crisis, including grappling with her sexuality and the impact of her environment on her mental health.

    00:14:37 - Battle with Bipolar Disorder
    Sariah opens up about her battle with bipolar disorder, including her suicide attempt and the importance of seeking help.

    00:19:39 - Search for Birth Family
    Sariah talks about her ongoing journey to find her birth family, including her experience with DNA testing and the challenges she faces in this quest for self-discovery.

    00:22:53 - Family Support and Validation
    Sariah reflects on the lack of support and validation from her adoptive family in her search for her birth family, emphasizing the importance of understanding and support in an adoptee's journey of self-discovery.

    00:23:57 - Responsibilities of Adoptive Parents
    Sariah and Beth discuss the important responsibilities of adoptive parents, emphasizing the need for a holistic approach to supporting the emotional and healing needs of adopted children, as well as being prepared for potential reunions and therapy.

    00:25:08 - Challenges of Intercountry Adoption
    Sariah and the host discuss the unexpected challenges and expenses of intercountry adoption, including the need for multiple trips to the child's country of origin, potential reunions, and therapy. They highlight the importance of adoptive parents being prepared for these aspects.

    00:28:25 - Cultural Awareness and Identity
    Sariah shares her experience of growing up in a predominantly white and Mormon culture, where her Chinese identity and culture were not fully integrated. She discusses the impact of not being encouraged to explore her cultural heritage and the implications for adoptees.

    00:31:56 - Family Dynamics and Healing
    Sariah reflects on her complex relationship with her adoptive family, expressing a desire for a more nurturing and supportive dynamic. She discusses the challenges of navigating her trauma and seeking acknowledgment and understanding from her family.

    00:34:04 - Challenges of Identity and Acceptance
    Sariah delves into the challenges of navigating her identity as a former Mormon, her sexuality, and the pressure to conform to societal expectations. She shares her struggle with feeling judged by her family and the difficulty of making personal choices.

    00:35:42 - Impact of self-talk and internal struggles
    Sariah discusses the unhealthy impact of self-talk and the internal struggles she faces as an adoptee, including feelings of being a bad person and the trauma of abandonment.

    00:36:33 - Adoptive parents' reinforcement and expectations
    Sariah shares how adoptive parents' reinforcement and expectations can contribute to an adoptee's struggle with identity and acceptance, highlighting the challenges of being gay in a conservative environment.

    00:37:28 - Prioritizing self-needs and coping mechanisms
    Sariah talks about prioritizing her own needs and shares coping mechanisms, including the use of poetry as a way to express emotions and the concept of the "backpack of truths" to acknowledge and accept oneself.

    00:40:34 - Breaking free from societal labels
    Sariah reflects on breaking free from societal labels and embracing her authentic self, emphasizing the importance of personal growth and self-acceptance as an adoptee with multiple identities. Sariah shares a hopeful poem she wrote called ā€œWalls Versus Gates.ā€

    00:44:28 - Advice for adoptees and self-discovery
    Sariah offers advice for adoptees to seek understanding of their identity and emphasizes the importance of self-discovery and self-acceptance, encouraging others to explore their truths and seek support in their journey.

    Helping Adoptees Heal from Addiction's Grasp With David Bohl - Ep 129

    Helping Adoptees Heal from Addiction's Grasp With David Bohl - Ep 129

    "Change can happen incrementally, and oftentimes it's better that it does. We've heard the cliche 'trust the process.' Oftentimes the process is the most important thing." - David Bohl

    Join relinquishee/adoptee recovery coach David Bohl as he confronts the paradox of finding trust and healing in the intersection of adoption and addiction. He guides individuals towards healthy coping mechanisms and support in the face of deep-rooted trauma.

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Understand the possible impacts of adoption trauma on mental health and addiction.

    • Embrace TRUST as a key component in the journey to recovery.

    • Explore the unique challenges of addiction for adopted people.

    • Find safe and supportive communities for healing and growth.

    My special guest is David Bohl

    Meet David B. Bohl, an expert in addiction and adoption, whose personal journey through addiction recovery and exploration of the complex intersection between adoption and addiction brings a unique blend of empathy and expertise to our conversation. With a background that includes serving on the boards of prominent addiction and adoption organizations and receiving credentials from esteemed organizations like the Hazelton Betty Ford Graduate School of Addiction Studies, David's insights are informed, compassionate, and relatable. His memoir, Parallel Universes, and nonfiction book, Relinquishment and Addiction: What Trauma Has to Do with It, not only solidify his expertise but also highlight his commitment to providing support for individuals affected by adoption and addiction. David's balanced approach to destigmatizing addiction and promoting recovery reflects his genuine passion for helping others navigate their healing journey.

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    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

    Email questions or comments to Beth@UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Embracing trust in recovery -

    David emphasizes the crucial role of trust in recovery. From his own experiences, he realized that as an adoptee he had struggled to trust himself, others, and Higher Powers. His recovery journey was initiated by a process of rebuilding trust and finding healthier ways to deal with life's stressors. This topic is important as it underscores the concept that trust serves as a fundamental pillar in the path to recovery.

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introduction and Background
    Beth introduces herself, and acknowledges her and her son Joe's commitment to helping those impacted by adoption. She also introduces David Bohl as a guest who has struggled and recovered from addiction.

    00:01:00 - David's Adoption Story and Addiction
    David shares his adoption story of being relinquished at birth and adopted, as well as his struggles with alcohol and nicotine addiction. He highlights the impact of trust issues stemming from his relinquishment and adoption experiences.

    00:03:42 - Destigmatizing Addiction
    David discusses the need to destigmatize addiction and use everyday language to describe and address addiction issues. He emphasizes the importance of building trust and using more accepting language in recovery programs.

    00:07:29 - Recovery and Identity Formation
    David shares his journey of recovery, emphasizing the expansion of his identity from a disconnected individual to someone who has learned healthy coping mechanisms and repaired fractured relationships. He highlights the ongoing process of identity formation in recovery.

    00:08:52 - Understanding Relinquishment and Addiction
    Beth expresses empathy for the depth of pain experienced by relinquished individuals and acknowledges the tough challenge of dealing with disconnection from a young age. David emphasizes that addiction is simply a problem to be solved and discusses the need for understanding and support in addressing addiction issues.

    00:12:08 - Importance of Safe Communities and Validation
    David emphasizes the importance of finding safe communities and getting validated in adoption spaces. He explains how it allows individuals to understand different perspectives and get to know themselves better, but also highlights that it is just the minimum needed to start healing.

    00:13:26 - Stabilizing the Situation
    David discusses the need to stabilize the situation in addiction treatment, emphasizing the importance of eliminating unhealthy behaviors and perceptions while enhancing one's ability to feel good about themselves and their place in the world. He stresses the need for careful discussions and robust community support.

    00:15:04 - Addiction and Adoption Constellation Support Group
    David shares insights about the addiction and adoption constellation support group he runs with Celia Center. He explains the purpose of the group, emphasizing the importance of creating a safe place, validating experiences, and facilitating robust discussions within the adoption constellation community.

    00:18:33 - Resources and Support for the Adoption Constellation
    David discusses the availability of resources and support for the adoption constellation community, emphasizing the importance of raising awareness, providing psychoeducation, and letting people know about the various resources that now exist, especially through virtual platforms like Zoom.

    00:20:32 - Helping Adopted Individuals in Addiction
    David shares his approach to helping adopted individuals struggling with addiction, emphasizing the importance of finding someone to trust, getting clear on what's working and what's not, setting up goals, identifying outcomes, and providing resources and support to help individuals overcome their challenges

    00:23:40 - Introduction to Recovery Coaching
    David Bohl discusses his role as a recovery consultant and coach, offering support and resources for those struggling with addiction.

    00:24:50 - Reach Out for Help
    David emphasizes the importance of seeking help and finding resources that work for each individual, encouraging listeners to reach out and find support.

    00:25:34 - Be Gentle with Yourself
    David shares a message of self-compassion and incremental change, reminding listeners to be gentle with themselves and trust the healing process.

    00:26:30 - Coaching Groups for Adoptive Parents
    Beth invites adoptive parents to join coaching groups focused on supporting teens and young adults struggling with addiction, as well as nurturing identity and making connections for younger children.

    00:27:39 - Conclusion and Call to Action
    Beth encourages listeners to share the episode with those who may benefit from the important discussion on addiction, and expresses gratitude to David for his wisdom and mentorship.

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    Podcasting to Elevate Adoptee Voices with Sarah Reinhardt and Louise Browne - Ep 128

    Podcasting to Elevate Adoptee Voices with Sarah Reinhardt and Louise Browne - Ep 128

    "Adoptive parents, go do your own work. It's kind of a natural birthright to know who you are." - Louise Browne

    Adoptive parents and allies: Do you want to better understand and support your adoptive child's experiences? Our guests, adoptees Sarah Reinhardt and Louise Browne, will be sharing valuable insights and guidance on how to gain a deeper understanding and provide the support that adoptees need to thrive. By listening to their stories - and other adoptees' stories they share on their Adoption: The Making of Me podcast episodes - you can gain a deeper understanding and provide the necessary support for your adoptive child to flourish. Tune in to gain some new insights to support your adoptive child's journey.

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Understand the unique challenges of adoption experiences.

    • Explore the impact of secrecy and shame in adoption.

    • Gain insight into adoptees' alternate realities and perspectives.

    • Get the inside scoop about Sarah and Louise's friendship and their podcast, Adoption: The Making of Me.

    My special guests are Sarah Reinhardt and Louise Brownee

    Sarah Reinhardt and Louise Browne are the dynamic duo behind the podcast Adoption: The Making of Me. As adoptees themselves, they bring their personal stories and insights in a candid and relatable manner on their own pod. Through their podcast, they aim to unravel the complexities of adoption, offering a blend of humor, empathy, and raw honesty. Sarah and Louise's journey of coming "out of the fog" in real-time adds authenticity and depth to their discussions, making their podcast an invaluable resource for adoptive parents and allies seeking to understand and support their children's experiences. Get ready to dive into their fascinating stories and gain a deeper understanding of adoption through their eyes. And find out more about their podcast's background and hopes for the future.

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    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    • To listen to the Adoption: The Making of Me podcast, visit their website at adoptionthemakingofme.com, or search for them on your favorite podcast platform.

    • Support the Adoption: The Making of Me podcast on Patreon to help them continue their important work in elevating adoptive voices and providing valuable resources to the adoption community. Ā https://www.patreon.com/themakingofmepodcast

    • Come meet Sarah and Louise in New York for a meet-and-greet before Rebecca Autumn Sansom's and Liz DeBetta's Operation Fog Lift NYC Edition on February 2-4, 2024.

    • Here are some of the books that were mentioned in the episode:

      • The Primal Wound by Nancy Verrier

      • Journey of the Adopted Self by Betty Jean Lifton

      • The Baby Thief: The Untold Story of Georgia Tann, the Baby Seller Who Corrupted Adoption by Barbara Bisantz Raymond

    Other Resources:

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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

    Email questions or comments to Beth@UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introducing the Guests
    Beth introduces the guests, Sarah Reinhardt and Louise Browne, who co-host the podcast Adoption: The Making of Me. They aim to uncover adoption complexities and share their own adoption stories.

    00:01:23 - Different Adoption Stories
    Sarah and Louise discuss their different adoption experiences. Sarah had a traumatic beginning, while Louise was adopted into a loving family. They highlight the impact of adoption on their lives.

    00:09:30 - Coming Out of the Fog
    The guests share their journey of coming out of the fog, realizing the complexities of adoption, and experiencing emotional ups and downs. They discuss the awakening moments and the challenges they faced during this process.

    00:11:42 - Starting the Podcast
    Sarah and Louise reflect on starting their podcast without anticipating the emotional intensity of discussing their adoption experiences. They talk about bonding over being adoptees and finding camaraderie with other adoptees.

    00:13:02 - Adoptee Camaraderie
    The guests highlight the unique camaraderie among adoptees, where they can instantly connect with others who share similar experiences. They emphasize the shared understanding and connection that comes from living through adoption.

    00:13:12 - The Beginning of the Podcast Journey
    Sarah and Louise discuss how their podcast journey began as adoptees looking to explore the adoption world and provide a platform for adoptees to share their stories.

    00:14:39 - Unexpected Growth and Community
    Reflecting on the podcast's growth, Sarah and Louise acknowledge the impact of books, their supportive listeners, and the community they've built, highlighting the importance of diverse adoptee voices.

    00:16:39 - Insights from Difficult Topics
    The hosts share insights from discussing difficult topics, such as the book The Baby Thief, shedding light on the impact of historical figures like Georgia Tann and the far-reaching ripple effects of adoption-related trauma.

    00:19:00 - Embracing Adoptee Stories
    Sarah and Louise express their commitment to providing space for all adoptees to share their stories, emphasizing the importance of empathy and understanding regardless of individual experiences.

    00:24:18 - Future Visions and Realities
    The hosts discuss their future vision for the podcast, acknowledging the desire to reach wider audiences and expand their impact, while also recognizing the challenges of balancing real-life responsibilities with podcasting.

    00:25:37 - Weekend Events and Workshops
    Sarah and Louise discuss the upcoming New York event Operation Fog Lift, including a happy hour, a movie screening, and a writing workshop. They highlight the opportunities for adoptees and supporters to connect in person.

    00:26:41 - First In-Person Event
    Louise shares that this is their first in-person event, and they express excitement about meeting people face to face. They emphasize the transformative experience of interacting with others in real life.

    00:27:59 - Advice for Adoptive Parents
    The hosts offer advice for adoptive parents, emphasizing the importance of open communication, doing personal healing work, and not taking things personally. They stress the significance of acknowledging the adoptee's identity and experiences.

    00:32:12 - Abundance of Adoptee Podcasts
    Sarah and Louise discuss the value of the adoption community supporting numerous adoptee podcasts, emphasizing the diversity of voices and the ability to cater to different segments of the audience. They highlight the importance of collaboration and supporting each other within the adoption community.

    00:34:27 - Dream Celebrity Interviews
    The hosts express their desire to interview celebrities such as Keegan Michael Key, Colin Kaepernick, and Simone Biles, who all have adoption connections. They share their bold approach to reaching out to potential guests and the significance of elevating adoptee voices through their podcast.

    00:38:12 - Coaching for Adoptive Parents
    Beth offers coaching services for adoptive parents, specializing in helping them navigate through challenges such as addiction, mental health, and suicidality in their children. Her personal experience allows her to provide valuable support and resources.

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    Joe's Healing Journey, Continued - Ep 127

    Joe's Healing Journey, Continued - Ep 127

    "Today really is the solidified decision is that I'm going to quit marijuana for...not forever, but for one day at a time. That's how people should look at it. You don't have to, but that's how I'm looking at it, to keep myself afloat." -- Joe Nakao

    Unraveling Adoption's co-creator Joe Nakao catches us up on his journey to achieve personal growth and to heal his cannabis addiction, seeking support and understanding along the way.

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Understand the derailing effect of cannabis addiction

    • Unravel the impact of genetic factors on adoptive individuals' addiction.

    • Embrace the importance of self-compassion and support in addiction recovery.

    • Explore the benefits of online support groups in addiction recovery.

    My special guest is my dear son, Joe Nakao

    As a co-creator of this podcast, Joe brings a personal and relatable touch to the discussion. He bravely shares his journey of addiction recovery and healing, shedding light on the complexities of his experiences as a transracial adoptee. Joe's candid and insightful reflections offer a valuable perspective on the challenges of overcoming addiction, making him an authentic and credible voice for individuals on similar paths.

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    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    • Check out the community calendar at unravelingadoption.com/calendar for continuously-updated support groups, including specific groups for adoptees and addiction.

    • Join the interactive workshop How to Change Well on Zoom on Monday, January 8, 2024, at 4pm PST / 7pm EST. The workshop focuses on gracefully and intentionally making changes in your life. The cost is $20.24, and Patreon supporters receive a 50% discount on live events, including this workshop. Register at howtochangewell.eventbrite.com.

    Other Resources:

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    Unraveling Adoption is produced and hosted by Beth Syverson

    Music written and performed by Joseph Nakao

    Email questions or comments to Beth@UnravelingAdoption.com

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    Timestamped summary of this episode:
    00:00:00 - Introduction and New Year Update
    Beth introduces the episode and her son, Joe, who shares his recent achievements, such as getting his driver's permit and enrolling in college. Joe also discusses his struggles with substance abuse and mental health.

    00:04:21 - Impact of Substance Abuse
    Joe discusses the negative effects of marijuana on his life, including memory problems and lack of motivation. He and his mom also reflect on how self-medication with marijuana as a transracially adopted teen makes sense.

    00:10:31 - Influence of Supplements on Recovery
    Joe attributes a portion of his ability to pursue recovery to the supplements he has been taking that were prescribed after his genetic testing. These supplements have helped him feel more focused and engaged in tasks that he would have previously avoided.

    00:11:32 - Embracing Change and Self-Discovery
    Joe expresses a newfound determination to make positive changes in his life. He acknowledges the need to go deeper in his healing process and emphasizes the importance of making the decision to pursue sobriety from within.

    00:13:57 - Intrinsic Motivation for Recovery
    Beth and Joe discuss the significance of intrinsic motivation in the recovery process. Joe recognizes that sustainable change comes from within and highlights the importance of being personally invested in the journey towards sobriety.

    00:14:14 - Recognizing the bigger picture of success
    Joe discusses his realization about the dead-end path of his weed usage and the importance of making a life for himself. He acknowledges the benefits of weed but recognizes its negative impact on his life.

    00:15:39 - Support from friends and addiction
    Joe shares how his friends have been supportive and want him to be better. He reflects on his desire to be in a position to help others in the same way his friends have helped him.

    00:17:41 - Genetics and addiction
    Beth highlights the impact of genetics on addiction and how it can be especially relevant for adopted individuals who may not know their genetic predispositions. Joe emphasizes the importance of self-compassion and reaching out for support.

    00:19:16 - Finding the healing path
    Joe advises individuals struggling with addiction to practice self-compassion and seek external support. He emphasizes the value of meditation and self-expression through art or exercise as part of the healing journey.

    00:23:19 - Reaching out for help
    Joe stresses the importance of reaching out to others for support, even if feeling lonely or in crisis. He encourages individuals to seek online groups, addiction and/or adoption support groups, and to find people who can offer compassionate help.

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