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    How bad will recession be and what will recovery look like?

    enApril 19, 2020

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    • UK Economy Braces for 35% Contraction, 2 Million Job LossesThe UK economy is projected to contract by 35% and potentially lose 2 million jobs due to the COVID-19 pandemic and lockdown measures, but is expected to rebound once restrictions are lifted.

      The economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic and resulting lockdown measures is expected to be significant, with the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) predicting a potential 35% contraction in the UK economy and 2 million potential job losses. This comes as countries around the world face a massive rise in debt due to the outbreak. The context is that a large portion of the economy comes from everyday consumer activity, which has been significantly reduced due to the lockdown. While some productivity is still being achieved through remote work and essential services, a large portion of the economy has come to a standstill. The OBR expects this to plummet during the lockdown period but to rebound sharply once restrictions are lifted. Despite these challenging times, it's important for individuals to stay informed and up-to-date with the latest money news.

    • The coronavirus crisis's true economic impact may be more profound than current figures suggestThe OBR predicts a 13% GDP decrease, significant unemployment increase, and massive government deficit, but a prolonged recovery and potential second wave of downturn could lead to more significant long-term economic consequences.

      The economic impact of the coronavirus crisis is more significant than it appears based on current figures, which demonstrate a large decline followed by a large rebound. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) predicts a 13% decrease in GDP for the year, significant unemployment increase, and a massive government deficit. However, the OBR also anticipates a prolonged economic recovery, with unemployment taking longer to return to pre-crisis levels and potentially leading to a second wave of economic downturn. This uncertainty, combined with the long-term effects of the crisis, may have a more profound impact on the economy than currently anticipated. The eventual recovery may be gradual and may require significant adjustments from businesses and individuals. The impact of the crisis on various industries, particularly those that rely on in-person interactions, could be particularly severe and prolonged.

    • Economic Impact of Pandemic on Businesses: Complex and VariedThe pandemic's economic impact on businesses is complex and varied, with some struggling to bounce back while others adapt. The OBR and IMF reports predict a significant global downturn, but individual business outcomes depend on their industry, location, and adaptability.

      The economic impact of the pandemic on businesses, particularly those in the hospitality industry, is complex and difficult to forecast. While some businesses may be severely affected and struggle to bounce back, others may be able to innovate and adapt to the new normal. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) and International Monetary Fund (IMF) reports provide valuable insights into the potential trends, but the exact impact on individual businesses can vary greatly depending on their specific circumstances. The IMF predicts a global economic downturn of significant magnitude, with the UK expected to experience a 6.5% decrease in output this year followed by a rebound to 4% growth in 2021. However, the IMF also notes that the pain caused by the lockdowns may outstrip that of the credit crisis in 2008-2009. The OBR and IMF reports provide important context, but it's essential to remember that the impact on individual businesses will depend on various factors, including their industry, location, and ability to adapt to the changing market conditions.

    • Global Economic Crisis: Uncertainty and Long-Term ConsequencesThe global economic crisis is causing uncertainty about future livelihoods, with millennials being particularly impacted for a second time, and bold actions are needed to mitigate potential long-term damage.

      The IMF predicts a global economic contraction of 3% this year, which is significant given the growth rates in emerging economies. The crisis is causing uncertainty about future livelihoods and generations, with early to mid-career individuals being particularly impacted. The millennial generation, in particular, is experiencing this recession for the second time, with potential long-term consequences. The decision to balance health concerns and economic recovery is an incredibly difficult one, and the impact on future generations is a real concern. The economic downturn will have a profound effect on various sectors and industries, with some experiencing more significant disruption than others. The long-term consequences of the crisis are still uncertain, but it's clear that bold actions are needed to mitigate the potential damage.

    • Economic crises impact recent graduates and retireesRecent graduates face challenges finding jobs during economic crises, while retirees can be affected by investment losses. Possible solutions include higher taxes or changes to social safety net programs.

      During a economic crisis, recent graduates often face difficulty finding jobs and can be overlooked in favor of new graduates entering the workforce. This was the case during the 2008 financial crisis, and there are concerns it could happen again. The economic impact on these individuals can be significant, potentially hindering their career progression and earning potential for years to come. The older generation, who may be retired or reliant on investments, can also be heavily impacted by economic downturns, particularly if they have invested in the stock market. The question then becomes, who should bear the burden of addressing these economic challenges? Possible solutions include higher taxation or changes to social safety net programs like the state pension. The Social Market Foundation has proposed scrapping the triple lock on the state pension as a way to help alleviate some of the financial strain caused by the economic crisis. However, this idea is controversial and would require careful consideration.

    • Triple Lock Policy: Protecting Pensioners or Unsustainable?The triple lock policy, ensuring pensioners' income growth based on inflation, average earnings, or 2.5%, has been controversial. While it safeguarded pensioners during financial crisis, it leaves younger generations facing challenges. The future of the policy remains uncertain, with a double lock compromise proposed as a potential solution.

      The triple lock policy, which guarantees state pension recipients the highest of inflation, average earnings growth, or 2.5% annual increase, has been a contentious issue. Intended to protect pensioners from pitiful increases in the past, it has become popular but also unsustainable, as pensioners' incomes have been better protected since the financial crisis while younger generations have faced significant challenges. The high street was already struggling before the crisis, with sales at record lows and non-essential shops closing. The situation could worsen, leaving many businesses and workers in a precarious position. The triple lock policy's future remains uncertain, but some suggest a double lock compromise could be a viable solution. Ultimately, the debate centers around fairness and the impact on different generations.

    • Consumer spending patterns during lockdownDuring lockdown, consumer spending fell overall but rose in specific areas like supermarkets, travel, specialist food and drink stores, and digital content. Shops may struggle to enforce minimum spend levels for small reopenings, but consumers could benefit from cheaper prices.

      Debt can be a major factor in the downfall of businesses, and the current economic situation caused by the lockdown has led to significant changes in consumer spending. In March alone, consumer spending fell by 6%, but supermarket spending rose 21%. Travel spending and spending at specialist food and drink stores saw large increases, while digital content and subscription spending rose 17.4%. With more people shopping online, this trend is expected to continue. Some suggest introducing minimum spend levels for small shop reopenings to discourage frequent trips, but this would be challenging to enforce. On the plus side, consumers may see cheaper prices as shops try to shift stock. The current situation showcases herd mentality and the importance of understanding economic trends and behaviors.

    • Tech stocks defy economic downturnsDespite initial doubts, tech stocks like Amazon, Google, Facebook, Netflix, and Tesla have thrived during economic downturns, monetizing their platforms effectively and continuing to grow, even during a stock market crash. Their resilience during the pandemic highlights their importance in the modern economy.

      Tech stocks, particularly those like Amazon, have performed exceptionally well during economic downturns, despite initial doubts about their valuations. The tech sector led the final leg of the stock market boom, with companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, Netflix, and Tesla seeing significant growth. Initially, there were questions about their ability to make meaningful profits, but they managed to monetize their platforms effectively, leading to a wave of investment. Even in a stock market crash, these highly valued growth companies have held their ground, defying the trend for investors to shy away from speculative investments. The coronavirus pandemic has further highlighted the resilience of tech stocks, with many people relying on technology for work, education, and entertainment during lockdowns. While sectors like hospitality and leisure have suffered, tech stocks have continued to thrive, underscoring their importance in the modern economy.

    • Tech companies thrive in the digital economyInvestors favor tech firms during economic downturns, but caution is advised as some prices may be inflated

      The tech sector, particularly companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, Netflix, and Tesla, are thriving in the current economic climate as people work and stay at home. These digitally-focused companies are seen as safe bets due to the lack of options and the shift towards a more digital world. Older, more traditional companies, on the other hand, are facing challenges, especially those reliant on advertising revenue. However, it's important to note that while this trend may continue, investors should be cautious as some companies' share prices may have gotten ahead of themselves. Additionally, history shows that after a major economic downturn, big companies tend to recover well, but it's unclear whether it will be the tech giants or more traditional companies that will fare better this time around.

    • Economic downturn presents challenges and opportunitiesThe economic downturn may benefit certain old economy companies and potentially ease regulatory pressures, but the length of time needed to not lose money on investments may now be longer than five years due to increased volatility and uncertainty.

      The recent economic downturn may benefit some old economy companies, particularly in areas like advertising spend and digital services, as well as potentially easing regulatory pressures. Meanwhile, for investors, the length of time needed to substantially decrease the odds of losing money may now be longer than five years, according to recent analysis. This is due to the increased market volatility and uncertainty caused by the economic downturn. However, it's important to remember that past performance is not a guarantee of future results, and the length of time needed to not lose money depends on the specific start and end dates of an investment. Overall, the economic downturn presents both challenges and opportunities, and it's crucial for individuals and businesses to carefully consider their strategies in response.

    • Cash savings outperformed UK stock market in past 7 yearsWhile stocks typically beat cash over long term, past 7 years saw cash savings outperform UK stock market and even some investment trusts. Past performance doesn't guarantee future results, but trusting investments and their ability to beat inflation is key.

      While investing in the stock market generally beats keeping money in cash over the long term, it's important to note that there are exceptions. For instance, over the past 7 years, cash savings would have outperformed the UK stock market and even the average dividend-paying UK Equity Income Investment Trust. However, it's crucial to remember that past performance is not indicative of future results. The difficulty lies in measuring your own performance and keeping track of your investments over long periods. Trusting in the productivity of your investments and their ability to beat inflation is often the best approach. If you're unsure about your investment strategy or have any questions, feel free to reach out to the This is Money team. Remember, you can keep up with the latest money news by visiting thisismoney.co.uk or downloading the app. And don't forget to rate and subscribe to our podcast for more insightful discussions.

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