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    How This CEO Bootstrapped A Sales Team

    enJanuary 31, 2023
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    About this Episode

    It’s been 14 years since Bob Vaez started EventMobi and he’s had considerable growth without investment from Venture Capital or Private Equity. How did he do it? It wasn’t always easy.

    EventMobi’s early sales model was classic founder led with Bob doing it all from mining his network for leads to closing deals. 

    His decision to bootstrap versus take external investment meant that hiring an experienced sales leader was out of the question. Instead he hired young, hungry graduates who could listen and tell stories.

    His strategy worked. Growth was great, annual sales revenue soared.  

    Then the pandemic hit and revenue plummeted to near zero.

    Within a few months, Bob pivoted the in-person event platform into a virtual one.

    Sales rebounded and are stronger than ever with a return to in-person.

    Bob’s 14 year journey is a great how-to for any CEO looking to bootstrap their startup.

    Highlights:

    05:20 I had this passion for events and they would give you this tote bag full of paper and this show guide that's 300 pages. I'm like, why is this not on my phone?

    06:38 We were building a product that no one had ever heard of, software for events.

    06:57 I realized the other part of the product we have to build is a platform for planners and event organizers because their data was all over the place. 

    08:10 I think honestly at the beginning for a lot of startup founders, sales is not the main concern. But in reality, you want to make sure you have product market fit and selling is the best way to determine that.

    13:10 EventMobi is a bootstrap company and so very different from a VC backed company.

    13:43 From zero to the first $500K was very experimental. I didn't know if the company was going to exist in the next few months.  After that, I couldn't do everything myself, so I had to hire someone to do online demos using WebEx

    14:49 We weren't really hiring traditional salespeople. We were hiring people that were empathetic. They were really good listeners and they were really good storytellers.

    15:12 I ran it like that until we had about 12 people on the sales team. I was still managing marketing and support with a few junior managers, and we hit 5 million. That’s when I realized it was too much for me so we promoted our first sales manager from within the sales team. That took us to $10M.

    17:35 I think a lot of early CEOs hire what I call full-stack salespeople - they take it from lead to renewal. This has to be divided into different roles as you grow. How you define those roles and the timing is critically important.

    22:46 When the pandemic hit, we went from $10M to 0 overnight because all of the confidence got canceled. We retooled our platform to support virtual and suddenly our leads grew by a factor of five.

    28:45 We had a two pronged strategy in terms of building the sales team. One was to promote from within. And the other was to hire staff from the industry.

    31:40] Customer demands are changing. They are expecting a different type of response and they have different pain points. We need to train and enable the sales team to be able to help them in a way that they can benefit from rather than let me show you 12 tools we have.

    32:05] Information overload is real. There's so much noise and there're so many competitors. The customers can't even remember who said what.

    About Our Guest:

    Bob has over 10 years of experience in software, semiconductor and mobile industry in various capacities from engineering to business development. He has worked for a number of small and large companies in Toronto, Canada and Silicon Valley, California such as BTE, ATI, AMD and Nvidia.

    Currently Bob is the CEO of EventMobi.com.

    EventMobi is an interactive mobile event guide app that helps engage audiences, further green practices and generate revenue. We empower event organizers with simple but powerful tools to create mobile event guides for their attendees in minutes!

    Connect with Bob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobvaez/
    Follow Bob on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BobVaez

    About Guest Company:

    EventMobi's end-to-end Event Management and Virtual Conference Platform makes it easy for event organizers to plan, promote, monetize and deliver engaging virtual, hybrid and in-person event experiences. 

    From website, registration and an award-winning event app, to the Virtual Space and fully managed online event production, the EventMobi platform has been used by 10,000+ event planners in 72 countries around the world since 2009.

    Sign up for a free demo: https://eventmobi.com/demo
    Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/eventmobi

    You can learn more about and connect with Alice Heiman in the links below.

    Website: https://AliceHeiman.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

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    Connect with Scott on Linked In

    (99+) Scott Gillum | LinkedIn

    Carbon Design

    (99+) Carbon Design LLC: Overview | LinkedIn

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    (99+) Alice Heiman | LinkedIn

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    Social Links 

    Connect with Malin on Linked In

    (99+) Malin Schmidt | LinkedIn

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    Kodiak Hub | Supplier Relationship Management Platform

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    (3) Matt Brown | LinkedIn

    Link to the Matt Brown Show:

    Telling the stories of influencers and business thought leaders, one conversation at a time. - The Matt Brown Show

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    05:29 Being great as a leader benefits others and brings success   

    06:46 Need to appreciate and celebrate team achievements   

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    10:50 Suggestions for showing appreciation: handwritten notes, asking preferences   

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    Social Links 

    You can learn more about and connect with Andee Harris in the links below.

    Challenger:

    The Challenger Sale | Sales, Marketing, & CS Approach (challengerinc.com)

    Winning The Challenger Sale podcast:

    Winning the Challenger Sale - Sales Podcast | Challenger Inc

    Andee on LinkedIn:

    (99+) Andee (Weissman) Harris | LinkedIn

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    (99+) Alice Heiman | LinkedIn

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    Alice Heiman | Sales Consultant and Strategist for CEOs

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    04:35 How successful penetration tests led to a referral and the start of Rhymetec

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    06:35 Justin's steps to become a CEO practically overnight

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    34:49 Key takeaways on the importance of hiring people with the right mindset in sales

    About Guest

    Justin Rende is the Founder and CEO of Rhymetec, a cybersecurity firm providing cybersecurity, compliance and data privacy needs to SaaS companies. With over 20 years of experience in cybersecurity, Justin has focused exclusively on developing the most innovative and customizable cybersecurity solutions for modern SaaS-based companies.

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    The Importance of Sales Leadership in a Changing Economy with Gretchen Gordon

    The Importance of Sales Leadership in a Changing Economy with Gretchen Gordon

    In a world where sales strategies are swiftly evolving, CEOs can no longer afford to overlook the critical role of exceptional sales leadership. Alice Heiman’s latest guest, Gretchen Gordon, author of "Happy Sales Manager" and President of Braveheart Sales Performance, shares her profound insights on empowering sales teams to excel in any economic climate.

    Episode’s Key Takeaways:

    Adaptability: With predictions of a fluctuating 2024 economy, CEOs must ensure their sales leaders have robust plans to adapt and thrive regardless of market conditions.

    Strategic Sales Planning: It's not just about the numbers; it's about understanding the market, retaining customers, and fostering growth through value-driven relationships.

    Mindset and Skills: A winning sales team is built on a foundation of confidence, business acumen, and the ability to act as trusted advisors to their customers.

    Curious about transforming your sales team and leading them to new heights Watch the full episode below for a deep dive into Gretchen's strategies for stellar sales leadership.

    Chapters

    02:17 - Anticipating 2024's Economy: Evaluating economic predictions for 2024's potential challenges and opportunities.

    08:35 - Gaining More Market Share: Tactics for sales leaders to expand market share in fluctuating economic conditions.

    14:29 - Effective Market Positioning: Discussing strategies to stand out in the market for enhanced sales results.

    18:29 - Customer Retention Strategies: Techniques for retaining customers by showcasing value and differentiation.

    25:35 - Elevating Sales Roles: Transforming sales teams into trusted advisors and industry peers.

    28:20 - Boosting Sales Confidence: Overcoming confidence barriers in sales through practice and support.

    32:13 - Sales Attitude and Impact: The influence of mindset on sales effectiveness and client interactions.

    38:05 - Leveraging Referrals: Using existing networks for referrals to new customer segments.

    40:56 - Responsive Sales Planning: Adapting sales goals and methods to align with economic shifts.

    42:47 - Leadership in Sales: Balancing tactical skills and mindset for optimal sales leadership.

    When it comes to leading sales teams, it's about balancing the trio of acquiring new customers, ensuring customer retention, and driving growth. As Gretchen eloquently puts it, being a sales leader is about "driving sales and leading teams with ease and fun."

    For more insights on sales leadership and how to empower your team for success, subscribe to The Sales Talk with CEO’s podcast.

    About Guest

    Gretchen Gordon is the author of "Happy Sales Manager" and the President of Braveheart Sales Performance. With over 14 years of experience, she helps salespeople and leaders excel in any economy.

    I am an author, keynote speaker and I lead a team of experts who cultivate sales teams so sellers can sell and leaders can lead. 

    We focus on People, Processes, and Pipeline to accelerate sales and profits and transform organizations permanently.

    You can learn more about and connect with Gretchen Gordon in the links below.

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    Relationships Over Sales Pitches with Eduardo Coll

    Relationships Over Sales Pitches with Eduardo Coll

    Forget the traditional sales pitch; it's all about relationships and networks. This was the sage advice from Eduardo Coll, when he talked with Alice on "Sales Talk for CEOs." His innovative approach to business growth, focusing on conversational selling and leveraging networks, provides a fresh perspective for CEOs and entrepreneurs.

    Embrace Conversational Selling

    • Relationships Over Sales Pitches: Eduardo's team showcases the effectiveness of building connections first, without immediately pushing for a sale. This approach fosters trust and opens doors for genuine business opportunities.
    • Solving, Not Just Selling: Focus on understanding and solving client problems rather than just selling a product or service. This shift in approach can create more impactful and lasting client relationships.

    Leverage Your Network for Expansion

    • Tap into Personal Connections: Eduardo stressed the significance of utilizing personal and professional networks, particularly in a business's early stages, as a more effective strategy than traditional sales methods.
    • Empower Your Team in Sales: Encourage every team member to see themselves as potential contributors to sales, utilizing their unique networks and connections.

    Key Takeaways for CEOs

    1. Prioritize Relationship-Building: Train your sales team to focus on establishing relationships first.

    2. Maximize Your Network: Use your personal and professional networks to identify potential clients and opportunities.

    3.Encourage Team-Wide Sales Contribution: Foster a culture where all team members can aid in sales through their networks.

    "Forget that you need to sell and start focusing more on the relationship... that's a better start," Eduardo advised, highlighting a pivotal shift in sales strategy.

    Eduardo's methods remind us that in today's business landscape, success is as much about how you connect and whom you know as what you sell.

    Chapters

    01:18 The importance of sales-driven growth and funding through growth   

    03:23 Importance of building relationships and focusing on problem-solving   

    11:57 The importance of having a team of partners with complementary skills   

    15:17 Initial sales strategies, focusing on referrals and leveraging contacts   

    18:34 The value of a strong network in generating leads   

    22:30 Transitioning from founders doing all the selling to hiring salespeople   

    24:08 Having a lead flow before hiring salespeople   

    26:31 Hiring salespeople through personal connections and trust   

    32:17 Discussion on when to involve senior executives in sales process   

    36:08 Challenges of finding clients through digital marketing for service companies   

    About Guest

    Eduardo, or Edu, as he prefers to be called, is a Systems Engineer specialized in business and agile methodologies and has 22 years of experience in the IT industry as a developer, a manager, a director and most recently, as co-founder of 2 companies, Incutex and Exomindset. 

    In 2019, he founded exomindset.co with a partner to provide local and international clients with software engineering and development services, his belief was that teamwork and agile methodologies could overcome any cultural and language barriers, that coding is universal. He speaks Spanish and English fluently as well as some Portuguese and while he’s immensely proud of his home country, Argentina, his knowledge of the culture of other countries makes him perfectly suited to run a company that works with clients from many different parts of the world.

    Connect with Eduardo on LinkedIn

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    https://www.linkedin.com/company/exo-mindset

    About Company

    Software Development Company | ExoMindset

    https://clutch.co/profile/exomindset

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    Using My Time: Drink Your Coffee While it's Hot!

    Using My Time: Drink Your Coffee While it's Hot!

    This week Alice shares her reflections after having time to think during the holidays. 

    In this podcast she considers how CEOs should use their time to do what is most important to them and that are things only they can do.

    She talks about how CEOs need to stay in their genius zone and find others to do the rest. It’s tempting to continue doing so many things, just because you can, when someone else could do them better and leave you to do what you do best. 

    As CEOs you always have so much going on and most of you are still heavily involved in sales as well. Alice points out that you need to start to think differently about your time. 

    In this episode she recommends that you drink your coffee while it’s hot.

    Chapters

    00:53 Importance of using time effectively as a CEO   

    01:34 Being a better leader and supporting sales strategies   

    02:23 Metaphor of drinking coffee while it's hot  

    03:36 Taking time to enjoy and savor the moment   

    04:45 Tips for keeping coffee hot and writing things down   

    06:00 Importance of morning rituals and self-care   

     

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    From the White House to Wonderhell: Laura Gassner Otting's Journey of Resilient Leadership

    From the White House to Wonderhell: Laura Gassner Otting's Journey of Resilient Leadership

    Summary

    Laura Gassner Otting, TEDx speaker and author of Wonderhell: Why Success Doesn’t Feel like it Should . . . and What to do About it, had an insightful conversation with Alice. Her career has spanned from a pivotal role in Bill Clinton's White House to achieving entrepreneurial heights. Laura and Alice discussed the concept of "Wonderhell," which most CEOs know well, it’s where the exhilaration of success is entwined with the challenges it brings and the feeling of wanting more. 

    This episode offers a unique opportunity to gain insights from Laura's diverse experiences, shedding light on the complex dynamics of ambition, success, and the resilience required to thrive in leadership roles.

    Exploring "Wonderhell"

    Laura's journey through the highs of achievement and the lows of pressure showcases the duality at the heart of success. "Wonderhell" is not just about reaching the peak; it's about thriving amidst the challenges and relishing the journey. 

    Laura shares, "I wrote Wonderhell because I found myself in it.” She reveals, “I was filled with imposter syndrome and anxiety and uncertainty and doubt and envy and exhaustion and burnout. And I was like, it's kind of horrible. Now, I'm stuck with the burden of my potential." 

    She knew she had to figure it out and the book is the result of that.

    Key Insights from this episode:

    • Embracing Ambition: Laura encourages CEOs to see ambition as a catalyst, not a flaw. It's the fuel that drives us towards greater heights. She states, "Embrace your ambition... It's okay for me to want more, that's totally cool."
    • Success Beyond Finances: Success isn't just measured in dollars. Laura places immense value on personal relationships and internal fulfillment. She remarks, "I am proudest of the relationships that I built and deepened with my kids, my husband, and my friends."
    • Emotional Balance: Achieving success brings a spectrum of emotions. Laura's approach is about finding an equilibrium between excitement and the anxieties that come with leadership. She advises, "Get comfortable being uncomfortable... understand that this is not the now; it's actually the new normal."
    • Strategic Focus and Delegation: As a CEO, Laura highlights the importance of focusing on tasks unique to your skillset and delegating to others to enhance efficiency and satisfaction. Laura elaborates, "The highest and best use of your time is to do what only you can do."

    Embracing the Journey

    Laura Gassner Otting teaches us that success is more than a destination; it's a continuous process of growth, challenge, and self-discovery. Her journey from the White House to entrepreneurship exemplifies the nuanced nature of leadership and the importance of embracing every part of the journey.

    Have you experienced your own version of "Wonderhell"? I’d love to hear from you. Join the discussion in the comments below.

     

    Chapters

    08:18 - Valuing Achievements Before Chasing Next Goals

    11:47 - Shifting Leadership Mindset to Positivity

    14:47 - Leveraging Intentional Focus for Opportunities

    18:12 - Prioritizing Culture for Business Success

    22:31 - Empowering Teams with Strategic Questions

    23:57 - Scaling Insights from '10x is Easier Than 2x'

    26:13 - Balancing CEO Ego with Effective Leadership

    30:28 - Importance of CEO-Audience Engagement

    34:07 - Embracing Ambition and Overcoming Doubts

    38:06 - Focusing on Long-term Business Trajectory

    42:57 - Balancing Business and Personal Life Priorities

    About Guest

    Laura’s secret superpower is seeing your greatness and reflecting it back on you, so that you can get “unstuck” — and achieve extraordinary results. 

    A frequent contributor to Good Morning America, the TODAY Show, Harvard Business Review, and Oprah Daily, Laura is the Wall Street Journal Bestselling Author of three books, Wonderhell, Limitless, and Mission-Driven. Laura’s 30-year resume is defined by her entrepreneurial edge. 

    She served as a Presidential Appointee in Bill Clinton’s White House, helping shape AmeriCorps; left a leadership role at respected national search firm to expand a tech start-up; and founded, ran, and sold her own global search firm, partnering with the full gamut of mission driven corporate and nonprofit executives. 

    Laura is turned on by the audacity of The Big Idea and that larger-than-life goal you just can’t seem to shake. She’s an instigator, motivator, and provocateur, and she’s never met a revolution she didn’t like. Just ask her enduringly patient husband, two almost-grown sons, and two troublesome pups with whom she lives outside of Boston, MA.

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    Laura's TED talk:

    Laura Gassner Otting: Why doesn't success bring happiness? | TED Talk

    Wonderhell and Limitless:

    Books — Laura Gassner Otting

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