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    Is this fictitious civil war closer to reality than we think?

    en-usApril 19, 2024

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    • A deeply divided nation in 'Civil War' reflects current American politicsThe new movie 'Civil War' highlights the growing tensions and conflicts in American politics, mirroring a polarized climate and the potential consequences of division.

      The current state of American politics and society, as depicted in the new movie "Civil War," showcases a deeply divided nation. The film, which imagines a civil war resulting in the secession of 19 states, reflects the growing tensions and conflicts between various factions over issues like climate change, immigration, and the 2020 election. The lack of clear political alignment in the movie mirrors the current polarized climate, making it challenging to discern good from bad sides. The film's dystopian vision serves as a stark reminder of the potential consequences of this division. It's essential to acknowledge and address these divisions to prevent further escalation and maintain unity.

    • Reflections on the Dystopian Premise of 'Civil War' and Real-World Parallels40% of Americans believe a civil war is possible within the next decade, highlighting the need for thoughtful engagement with complex societal issues

      The dystopian premise of the film "Civil War" - a near-future United States in the throes of a violent civil conflict - is causing many viewers and pundits to reflect on the real-world parallels of a deeply polarized society. While the film is a work of fiction, polling shows that 40% of Americans believe a civil war is at least somewhat likely within the next decade. The film's exploration of armed groups and conspiracy theories adds to this conversation. The BBC, a sponsor of NPR, encourages listeners to engage with these complex issues, as the best stories challenge us to think deeply. Chevron, another NPR sponsor, is taking action to address methane management in the energy industry, contributing to a lower carbon future.

    • Individuals and groups wishing for civil war see themselves as culture soldiersDespite not being imminent, some Americans believe civil war is a possibility within the next decade. The government must maintain control over armed militant groups to prevent escalation of political division and potential threats of civil war.

      The film's depiction of civil unrest in America may reflect real-life undercurrents of political division and extremism. According to Amy Kuder, a researcher at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, there are individuals and groups who wish for a civil war and see themselves as "culture soldiers" to revert society to a past format. While a civil war is not imminent, there is a significant number of Americans who believe it's a possibility within the next decade. Kuder emphasizes the need for the government to maintain control over armed militant groups and prevent the escalation of political division. History offers lessons on the potential threats of civil war, and as sociologists, we should not be overly optimistic about the current situation. The United States is experiencing extreme political polarization, and some individuals believe they will have to defend themselves against perceived threats to their interests.

    • Understanding Extremist Groups' Motivations and ActionsWhile most people in society want peace, extremist groups pose real risks and it's crucial to understand their motivations and actions to prevent conflicts. Real life infighting among these groups weakens their power, but growing movements oppose extremist beliefs and work towards a more inclusive society.

      While there are concerns about the outsized influence of extremist groups, it's important to remember that the vast majority of people in society are pro-democracy and want to make the country a better place. However, these extremist groups pose real risks of violence and harm, and it's crucial to understand their motivations and actions to prevent potential conflicts. The film's depiction of constant infighting among extremist groups is an accurate reflection of real life, as these groups often have strong ideological differences and infighting that weakens their overall power. Despite the challenges, it's essential to recognize that there are also growing movements opposing extremist beliefs and working towards a more inclusive and peaceful society.

    • Risks of Extremist Violence in the USThe US faces a significant risk of extremist violence despite efforts to monitor online activities and increase preparedness.

      The threat posed by extremist groups in the US, even though a minority of them may intend to do harm, can have significant societal impact. These groups are often hard to track and monitor due to their online activities and planning amongst themselves. Despite increased preparedness since the January 6th Capitol attack, there is a risk of further violence against state buildings, politicians, and flashpoints around elections or school board happenings. Amy Kuder, director of research at the Center on Terrorism, Extremism, and Counterterrorism at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, believes that the US government may be underestimating this risk.

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