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    “Juneteenth and the GOP’s anti-anti-racism.” (with Jelani Cobb!)

    enJune 17, 2021

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    • Senator Joe Manchin's opposition to certain provisions in the infrastructure bill causes tension between progressives and centrists in the U.S. Senate.Senator Manchin's stance on infrastructure bill provisions divides Democrats, potentially obstructing progress on climate, education, housing, caregiving, and immigration legislation.

      The infrastructure and voting rights legislation in the U.S. Senate is facing challenges due to the stance of Senator Joe Manchin. Manchin's opposition to certain provisions has put progressives and centrists at odds, with some Democrats insisting on passing a reconciliation bill to pay for climate, education, housing, caregiving, and possibly immigration. Every senator's vote holds equal weight, making the leverage of each side significant. Progressives argue that it's crucial to address climate change in the infrastructure bill and that passing a large spending bill without significant climate investments could make future legislative accomplishments more challenging. The current infrastructure deal, which has garnered support from both parties, could face obstacles if the progressive wing of the Democratic Party holds firm on their demands.

    • Political players' leverage in infrastructure bill negotiationsThe infrastructure bill's passage hinges on compromise between progressives and moderates in Congress, with key Democrats like Manchin and Sinema holding strong negotiating positions. The bipartisan deal serves as the only concrete proposal, but finding a compromise remains complex and uncertain.

      The infrastructure bill's passage depends on the leverage of various political players, including progressives and moderates in both the House and Senate. The current impasse arises from the lack of commitment from key Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, who are seeking to strengthen their negotiating positions. The bipartisan deal, while insufficient for some progressives, is currently the only concrete proposal on the table. The challenge lies in finding a compromise that satisfies both parties and secures the necessary votes in both chambers. The ongoing negotiations are complex and uncertain, with various reports and statements contributing to the fluid situation. Ultimately, the outcome will depend on the willingness of key players to make concessions and find common ground.

    • Democrats' agenda at a standstill due to infrastructure negotiationsKey senator Manchin's push for bipartisan deal hinders Democrats' legislative agenda, putting pressure on Congress to act before summer recess or face consequences for the party and Biden's presidency.

      The Democrats' legislative agenda, including the American Families Plan and American Jobs Plan, is at a standstill due to the ongoing negotiations over a bipartisan infrastructure deal. Joe Manchin, a key Democratic senator, is holding significant leverage in these negotiations and is pushing for a bipartisan deal to get done before committing to a reconciliation bill. However, the clock is ticking as Congress approaches its summer recess, and the lack of progress on these bills could have significant consequences for the Democratic Party and President Biden's agenda. Republicans, on the other hand, see an opportunity to prevent Democrats from passing legislation that would benefit their base and potentially weaken Biden's presidency. The outcome of these negotiations will have significant implications for the direction of the country in the coming months.

    • Democrats' legislative agenda hinges on reconciliation bill and compromise on voting rightsThe Democrats' legislative agenda relies on passing the reconciliation bill and reaching a compromise on voting rights to address key issues like climate, education, housing, health care, and tax increases, while maintaining party unity.

      The success of the Democrats' legislative agenda, including their priorities on climate, education, housing, health care, and tax increases, hinges on the reconciliation bill and the agreement between progressive and moderate Democrats, such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Joe Manchin. The infrastructure bill may have bipartisan support, but the reconciliation bill requires unanimity among Democrats to pass without Republican votes. The compromise on voting rights and election reform, which includes measures like banning partisan gerrymandering and early voting, but also voter ID requirements, is a potential solution to a long-term problem, despite its imperfections. The White House and Senate Democrats should keep pushing for progress on both tracks and avoid making a definitive choice between them. Stacey Abrams, a prominent voting rights advocate, supports the compromise as a step towards addressing the issue of partisan gerrymandering.

    • Senator Manchin's opposition to the 'For the People Act' and ongoing filibuster discussionsSenator Manchin's opposition to the 'For the People Act' in its current form hinders its passing. Discussions around filibuster reform and potential compromises continue, with Manchin reportedly open to changes.

      The passing of the "For the People Act" in its current form is unlikely due to the opposition of Senator Joe Manchin. Manchin, who holds significant power with his vote in the Senate, has repeatedly stated that he will not support the bill without modifications. The conversation around the filibuster and potential compromises is ongoing, with Schumer hinting at a possible compromise bill being put on the floor in late June. Regarding voter ID, there are conflicting views on how it could impact various states. Some argue that it could benefit Democrats in states with current voter ID requirements, while others warn about the potential burden on states without voter ID laws. The most significant development, however, is Manchin's reported openness to filibuster reform, which could potentially lead to a compromise on the voting rights bill. Despite this, it remains unclear whether any Republican votes can be secured for such a compromise.

    • Sen. Manchin's Private Comments Offer Hope for Bipartisan Voting Rights DealSen. Manchin may work with Republicans to lower filibuster threshold for voting rights legislation, offering a potential path for bipartisan compromise on the For the People Act.

      While hope for bipartisan compromise on voting rights and election reform may seem distant, there is still a possibility for progress. Sen. Joe Manchin's private comments suggest he may be open to working with Republicans and lowering the filibuster threshold if he can secure a few GOP votes. This offers a glimmer of hope for the For the People Act, which had previously appeared dead in the water due to lack of Republican support. However, the road to bipartisanship may be long and hard, as many Republicans have shown resistance to voting rights legislation. The recent signing of Juneteenth as a federal holiday serves as a reminder of the ongoing struggle for equality and the importance of continued advocacy for voting rights and election reform.

    • Political push to restrict teaching of critical race theory in schoolsDespite being an academic field predominantly related to law, critical race theory is being politically targeted for restriction in schools, with critics mischaracterizing it as racist and psychologically enslaving, rather than engaging with the actual literature.

      There's a political push to restrict the teaching of critical race theory in schools, labeling it as psychologically enslaving and aggressively racist, despite it being an academic field predominantly related to law. Critics of critical race theory have not engaged with the actual literature, instead using the term as a way to frame white people as victims. The controversy started after the murder of George Floyd, with many people seeking to understand the historical context and causes of systemic racism. The efforts to restrict critical race theory are seen as an attempt to curtail the impact of this newfound knowledge and understanding of race in American society.

    • The debate over critical race theory in schools goes beyond just what's being taught, it's about systemic racism in societyThe debate around critical race theory in schools is not just about curriculum, but also about power dynamics and maintaining cultural dominance in American politics.

      The debate around critical race theory in schools is not just about what is being taught, but also about the larger issue of systemic racism in American society. This debate has been ongoing for some time, with differing perspectives on the existence and scope of racism. While some argue that only a few individuals hold racist views, others focus on institutional practices and disparities. The current political climate, fueled by right-wing media and think tanks, is using this issue to excite the Republican base and maintain their political power. Historically, Republicans have been successful in using fear and resistance to multiracial democracy to win votes, particularly in the context of education. From busing to textbooks to critical race theory, schools have been a focal point of this backlash. Ultimately, the issue is about more than just winning elections; it's about maintaining power and cultural dominance, and it's a game of interests in American politics.

    • Political Discourse Around Critical Race Theory: Facts vs. FeelingsDespite misrepresentations, critical race theory aims to study racial dynamics, but its goals are being turned against it, leading to controversy and backlash.

      The political discourse around critical race theory has become a contentious issue, with Democrats focusing on facts and Republicans on feelings. Critical race theory is being misrepresented and used as a buzzword to sow insecurity and disorientation among voters. The metaphor of a mirror reflecting infinity describes how the critical race theory movement's goal of studying racial dynamics is being turned against itself. Derrick Bell, a cornerstone thinker in critical race theory, predicted this reaction, as even progressive reforms can lead to the engineering and reengineering of racial hierarchies. A letter denouncing white supremacy in a small town led to a national campaign against the school board, despite the lack of critical race theory being taught. Effectively persuading suburban parents to teach about structural racism is a challenge, as they may not understand the historical context or the origins of the parties they vote for. To be more effective, the language used should be parsed differently to avoid predictable backlash.

    • Republicans exploiting critical race theory for political gainRepublicans use CRT as a political tool to divide and distract, while accurate discussions of American history are crucial for understanding our past and progress

      Republicans are exploiting the conversation around critical race theory in schools for political gain, despite it not accurately representing what is being taught. This is part of their effort to fire up their base and maintain the old power structure, which is being questioned due to its flaws and cruelty. Democrats and progressives should acknowledge this motivation and focus on framing the issue as an attempt to divide us and starve schools of resources. Instead of engaging in the Republicans' framing of critical race theory, it's important to have open and accurate conversations about American history, including topics like the founding documents and the debates over the electoral college. These conversations are necessary for understanding the past and moving forward, but it's important to recognize that there will continue to be attempts to take these discussions out of context and turn them into major stories.

    • The complex history of American power and idealsUnderstanding America's flawed past is crucial for progress towards a more equitable society, acknowledging historical power imbalances and striving for improvement.

      The founding of the United States was built on a flawed system that has continually strived to live up to its idealistic promises, despite its historical shortcomings. The debates around the constitution and the electoral college explicitly show that political power was given to southern white people through the use of enslaved people. It's essential to acknowledge this history without allowing those who use it to claim the mantle of patriotism. The ongoing debate around critical race theory and American exceptionalism highlights two contrasting perspectives. One view holds that America is exceptional due to its achievements, while the other recognizes the country's flaws but values its commitment to improving. The latter perspective emphasizes the importance of understanding the past and continuing the effort to live up to the American creed. The media's sensational coverage of political events, such as the summit between Biden and Putin, often fails to accurately represent the reality of the situation. Instead, it's crucial to focus on the substance of discussions and the potential for progress towards a more equitable society.

    • Media hype vs. reality of Biden-Putin summitThe media often exaggerates diplomatic meetings, like the Biden-Putin summit, creating a false sense of drama, while clear and respectful communication between world leaders is crucial.

      The media hype surrounding the Biden-Putin summit greatly surpassed the actual outcome, with much of the coverage bordering on the absurd. The summit, while newsworthy due to the historical context and geopolitical significance of US-Russia relations, was portrayed as a dramatic showdown, when in reality, it was just a diplomatic meeting. The Biden administration may have intentionally leaned into the pageantry of the summit to signal a new era in US-Russian relations, but the president's off-the-cuff remarks to the press may not have been the best diplomatic move. Ultimately, the summit served as a reminder of the long and complex history between the two nations, and the importance of clear and respectful communication between world leaders and the media.

    • Politician's temper vs Media FreedomMedia criticism and assaults on the free press should be distinguished. Politician's temper does not equate to an attack on media or threat to democracy.

      While it's understandable for politicians or public figures to lose their temper, it's important to distinguish between media criticism and actual assaults on the free press. An incident where a politician snaps at a reporter does not equate to an attack on the media or a threat to democracy. The media and the public should be able to have a nuanced conversation about media criticism and separate it from actual threats to journalistic freedom. For instance, during the Trump era, there was a conflation of media criticism and assaults on the media, which diluted the significance of real threats. It's crucial to recognize that incidents like a politician getting snippy with a reporter are not the same as significant threats to the role of the free press in American democracy.

    • Media's role in current political climateReporters must understand that being tough on Dems won't stop GOP attacks and focus on serving their audience instead.

      The media's role has shifted in the current political climate, and reporters need to understand that being tough on Democratic politicians won't stop attacks from the Republican base. The GOP's decades-long war against the media has changed the game, and reporters must recognize this to effectively adjust their approach. CNN and other media outlets should continue to ask tough questions and hold politicians accountable, but they should not expect it to win over MAGA voters or stop being labeled as "fake news." Instead, their focus should be on serving their existing audience and informing them accurately. The media's role is crucial, and they should not be discouraged by attacks, but they must acknowledge the current political reality and adapt accordingly.

    • The role of journalism in American politicsDespite challenges, journalists and those interested in American democracy must find new ways to contribute and add value in the face of Republican aggression and mainstream media appeasement.

      Key takeaway from this episode of Pod Save America is that the role of journalism in American politics has shifted dramatically. In the past, journalists and political thinkers saw journalism as a powerful force that could hold politicians accountable and shape public opinion. However, in the face of Republican aggression and mainstream media's response of appeasement, that role has been diminished. Instead, journalists and those interested in American democracy must find new ways to contribute and add value. Despite the challenges, there is still a valuable role to play, whether through subscribing to various news outlets or finding new ways to engage with the political process. It's important to remember that the media landscape may have changed, but the importance of an informed and engaged public has not.

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