Katharina Miller & Sigrid Uray-Esterer: Co-founders of JobTwins

I welcome Nadine Bartenschlager and Catherine Niebuhr as my guests today. Nadine was born & raised in Berlin and Catherine in Frankfurt. Both have a Master's degree in business with marketing specializations. They started working with Beiersdorf 20 years ago and have had successful marketing careers for the NIVEA brand in global, regional and local roles. Nadine and Catherine have been in leadership positions for more than 10 years. They are both mothers of young children and have explored working full-time, part-time and now as jobsharers after starting their families.

How to connect with Nadine & Catherine:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-niebuhr/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadine-bartenschlager/

What we spoke about on the show:

1:42 Where are you calling in from?

2:48 Professional background

5:26 How did you get into job sharing and how did you meet?

8:20 A typical job sharing week & job sharing communication tools

11:30 Most surprising aspect of job sharing?

15:54 How does one get job sharing started in an organization?

20:54 How can job sharing help to increase diversity and gender equality in an organization?

How to connect with the show host, Karin Tischler:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

My guest today is Aaron Merlin Defort. Aaron will talk about many aspects of the future of work with me. From job sharing, taking extended parental leave as a dad, gender equality as well as transferable skills from having lived in many different countries. Aaron is part of the management team of the Center of Digital Technology and Management while writing his Ph.D. focusing on social networks and social capital in entrepreneurial ecosystems.

How to reach out to Aaron:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronmerlindefort/

What we spoke about on the show:

1:29 Where are you calling in from?

2:13 Professional background

5:21 Transferable skills from having lived in many countries 

9:46 Why did you job share & how did you communicate as a job sharer?

15:15 What would you have liked to have known prior to job sharing?

20:57 Extended paternal leave

24:54 Surprising aspect of being a caregiver?

30:45 What needs to happen for more dads to take extended paternal leave?

35:45 Gender proportionality principle - HBR article

https://hbr.org/2021/11/achieving-gender-balance-at-all-levels-of-your-company

How to reach out to Karin Tischler, the show host:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

My guest is Suzanne Brown today. Suzanne is a work-life balance speaker, consultant and award-winning author, and founder of Mompowerment. She helps companies and working moms to create great work-life balance.

How can you connect with Suzanne:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oksuzi/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mompowerment/?hl=en

Twitter: https://twitter.com/mompowerment

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=529749124708197

Website: https://mompowerment.com/

What we spoke about:

1:14 Where Suzanne is calling in from

2:36 Start of Mompowerment

5:55 Interviews with 100+ professional part-time working moms

8:46 Surprising aspects from the interviews

14:07 How has the pandemic changed work-life balance?

17:36 Where will the Future of Work be in 5-10 years?

21:07 Transferable skills from travelling to 40+ countries

How to connect with the host, Karin Tischler:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Maggy Pigott is returning as my guest today. Maggy is a job sharing pioneer! She job shared with her partner for 23 years across 7 positions and retired at a joined chief executive level and received together with her partner a CBE for her efforts regarding job sharing. Today, we will also talk about flexible work in the context of another passion in Maggy’s life, “aging well”. Maggy wrote the book “How to Age Joyfully: Eight Steps to a Happier, Fuller Life”.

How to connect with Maggy:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maggy-pigott-cbe-frsa-86684031/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MaggyPigott

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgeingBetter

Website: https://howtoagejoyfully.com/

Our previous podcast episode together: https://jobsharingandbeyond.libsyn.com/2020/05

What we spoke about in the episode:

1:47 Where Maggy is calling in from

4:26 How Maggy got into job sharing

13:29 Intergenerational job sharing

17:25 Maggy's book "How To Age Joyfully: Eight Steps to a Happier, Fuller Life

27:13 Reflecting on the last few years prior to retiring

32:34 Going from full-time to part-time work prior to retiring

How to contact the show host, Karin Tischler:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

My guests are Julia Koller and Silke Schank today. Julia and Silke are jobsharing managers in finance at Daimler Truck AG in Germany. Their flexible work model enables them to also be a career and systemic coach (Julia) and a mindfulness trainer (Silke) besides their finance position. Silke and Julia’s leadership philosophy is that more voices make a stronger whole. Trust is their foundation and they act as one, taking out complexity in that manner.

How to contact Silke & Julia:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-koller-130734216/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/silke-schank-1b2a02170/

What we spoke about during the episode:

1:37 Where are you calling in from?

3:42 Professional background (Julia then Silke)

9:06 How did you get started jobsharing together?

13:52 What mindset does it take to be successful at jobsharing?

18:21 How do you move together as a jobsharing team to a new position?

24:32 What would you have liked to have known prior to becoming jobsharers?

36:18 What concerns do people have regarding jobsharing?

44:29 Most surprising thing regarding jobsharing?

How to contact the host, Karin Tischler?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

The guests on today's show are Eva Dienel and Christine Bader. Eva is a freelance writer, editor and communications consultant with 25 years of experience telling stories that matter. She is the founder of The Life I Want story telling project and Christine has been a contributor to it from 2019 to 2022. Christine is a TED and TEDX speaker, book author, was Amazon’s former director of social responsibility and has been teaching students at multiple universities.

How to connect with Eva & Christine:

Eva Dienel:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-dienel-19a8a72/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/EvaDienel

Christine Bader:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinebader/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/christinebader

The Life I Want: https://www.thelifeiwant.co/

What we talked about on the show:

1:55 Where Eva & Christine are calling in from

4:16 Professional background - Eva

10:34 Professional background - Christine

19:08 The Life I Want

44:40 Message for business leaders/ HR leaders

Additional resources that were mentioned on the show:

Leslie Forde: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslieforde/

Otter: https://withotter.com/journey

Amy Henderson: https://www.amyhenderson.org/the_book

Katherine Goldstein: https://www.thedoubleshift.com/

How to reach out to the host, Karin Tischler:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Siran Cao is the CEO & Co-Founder at  Mirza. She is on a mission to close the gender pay gap through human centered technology and AI that creates equitable futures. She was an early Uber employee, is an experienced leader, and is driven by systems change.

How to find Siran on social media:

LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/siran-cao/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/hey-mirza/

Twitter:

https://twitter.com/heysiran

https://twitter.com/MirzaSaysHey

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/mirzasayshey/

What we spoke about:

1:47 Start of Mirza

4:37 Why did you pick the name "Mirza"?

7:55 Why is financial empowerment your North star?

9:35 Retain caregivers in the workforce

14:57 Younger generations helping support the gender pay gap

24:37 Future of Work in 5-10 years

If you would like to support the podcast:

Ko-fi Account: Ko-fi.com/karintischler

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/ 

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

 https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Inspired by the wonderful Aoife O'Brien and her solo episodes on her podcast "Happier at Work" I have created this solo episode!

In this special episode I talk about about flexible work and in particular why we still have a very long way to go regarding part-time work as well as remote & part-time work in North America and beyond.

In the episode I also invite you, my listeners to contemplate some of your views about part-time work. 

I referred to several articles in the podcast:

Happier at Work:

https://happieratwork.ie/

Zurich UK:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/zurich-flexible-working-women-diversity/

Salesforce:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/silicon-valley-no-longer-recruiting-175435240.html

Air B’nB:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/11/airbnb-ceo-those-who-dont-embrace-remote-work-are-at-a-disadvantage.html

Part-time jobs:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/15/the-mothers-who-job-share-counter-terrorism-at-gchq

New shift allowing for moms/ caregivers:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bhushansethi_greatresignation-workforce-talent-activity-6929513450360467456-HpVF?utm_source=linkedin_share&utm_medium=member_desktop_web

If you enjoyed this episode, I also highly recomment the recent podcast episode with Johanna Fink who specialises in part-time careers:

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/johanna-fink-business-coach-podcast-host-leadership/id1505170119?i=1000559948007

For an overview episode of part-time work in the form of job sharing, I put this episode together in celebration of the 100th episode: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/special-celebratory-overview-episode-part-1/id1505170119?i=1000554540484

While I may not have focused particularly about the importance of part-time work for *everyone* in this solo episode, I am a big believer that we can only get to more flexible work if we have especially male role models taking on care work and working flexibly. This summary episode talks about my 20+ episodes with dads and dad advocates. 

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/special-celebratory-overview-episode-part-2/id1505170119?i=1000558008092

If you would like to support the podcast:

Ko-fi Account: Ko-fi.com/karintischler

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/ 

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

 https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Brian Anderson is a husband and father to two spirited daughters that keep him inspired and exhausted every day. In his professional life, he has been a social worker, community organizer, university chaplain and interfaith leadership development consultant.

As the Co-Founder and Executive Director of Fathering Together, he brings those experiences to empowering fathers to be agents for social change. He has worked with dads from a variety of backgrounds to help them achieve deeper relationships with their families and connections in their work and communities.

He wears many hats, specifically as a coach for dads, spiritual director, community organizer and non-profit leader.

In our conversation today, we will be covering the start of the Fathering Together non-profit, his book “Fathering Together: One dad’s journey to building a village and the current “This Working Dad cares” campaign. As I am a big believer that unpaid care work is for everyone, I was really appreciative that Brian shared some insights from his attendance at the recent Power Plus Summit at the Institute for Women’s Policy Research.

How to connect with Brian:

LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/briananderson80/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/fathering-together/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/fatheringtogether/

Twitter:

https://twitter.com/FatherTogether

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/fatheringtogether

What we spoke about:

3:11 Start of Fathering Together

6:55 Most surprising aspect of Fathering Together

10:41 Fathering Together Book

15:02 Transferable Skills

18:45 "This Working Dad Cares" campaign

26:15 Future of Work in 5-10 years

If you would like to support the podcast:

Ko-fi Account: Ko-fi.com/karintischler

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/ 

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

 https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Johanna Fink works as a trainer and coach for part-time managers. She advises companies on how part-time leadership can be successfully implemented in the company. Previously, she worked for several years as a part-time executive in the media industry.

With her work, she stands for a healthy mix of enthusiasm for the topic and pragmatism in implementation. She is able to open up new perspectives on part-time leadership for people, thus enabling innovative solutions. Johanna lives with her family in Germany.  

How contact Johanna:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanna-fink/

ww.johannafink.de/

https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/f%C3%BChrunginteilzeit/

We talked about:

3:16 From radio station to self employment

6:31 "Leading in part-time" podcast

9:35 How to do part-time leadership successfully?

21:34 How do we implement part-time leadership more?

25:24 More management in part-time leadership

34:50 Common concerns regarding part-time leadership

If you would like to support the podcast:

Ko-fi Account: Ko-fi.com/karintischler

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/ 

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

 https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true