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    Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition

    enJune 01, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Copper's crucial role in the energy transition and potential supply shortageThe energy sector's growing demand for copper, essential for electrification, is outpacing new mine discoveries and declining production from existing mines, posing a significant challenge to achieving net zero emissions by 2050.

      The energy transition towards net zero emissions by 2050 is facing a significant challenge due to the potential looming shortfall in copper supply. Copper is essential for the electrification process, with demand increasing for transmission lines, solar and wind projects, and electric vehicles. The issue isn't a lack of resources but rather the difficulty of finding new mines and dealing with declining production from existing ones. The situation is particularly pressing as the demand for copper is growing rapidly, and its importance in the energy sector cannot be overlooked. Events like Transition AI Boston and Canary Live Seattle offer opportunities to learn more about the latest developments and connect with industry experts. Copper's role in the energy transition is a pressing issue that needs attention, and finding solutions to ensure a steady supply is crucial for achieving net zero emissions by 2050.

    • Understanding Copper's Role in a Green EconomyCopper is essential for a green economy due to its extensive use in electronics and renewable energy technologies. With the shift towards electric mobility, demand for copper is expected to surge, making it a crucial industry to invest in.

      Copper is a crucial element in our modern world, particularly important in the context of the energy transition and decarbonization. Copper is used extensively in electronics and plays a significant role in producing and transmitting electrons. With the shift towards a green economy and electric mobility, the demand for copper is expected to increase dramatically due to its use in electric cars, charging stations, wind turbines, and solar panels. The world currently produces approximately 22 million tonnes of copper per year, with Chile being the largest producer, accounting for about one-third of the global supply. This production is largely due to the natural abundance of resources in the region. Copper is an essential material for our daily lives and is almost everywhere we touch, making it a vital industry to understand and invest in, especially as we strive to mitigate climate change.

    • Understanding the political climate is crucial for investing in the copper industryThe copper industry is shaped by natural resources and political stability. Major producers include BHP, Rio Tinto, Freeport McMoran, and Vale, with Chile being the largest producer. Understanding both natural resources and political climate is essential for investing.

      The copper industry is shaped by both natural resources and political stability. While there are abundant natural resources of copper in various parts of the world, including the US, Chile, and Peru, the ability to extract and produce copper depends on the political and economic context. The copper industry is dominated by a few large players, such as BHP, Rio Tinto, Freeport McMoran, and Vale, with Freeport and Codelco being the largest producers. The largest copper mines are located in Chile, with Escondida being the largest individual mine, producing over 1 million tonnes of copper per year. After the top twenty producers, the output per mine decreases to more reasonable levels within the mining industry. Therefore, understanding both the natural resources and the political climate is crucial for investing in the copper industry.

    • From mining to smelting: The complex journey of copperCopper mining involves large-scale operations with trucks having 4m tall wheels, crushing rocks, and using hydrometallurgical methods or concentration processes for extraction. The final concentrate is taken to a smelting facility.

      The mining industry, specifically for copper, involves large-scale operations with massive equipment. Copper mining involves both subsurface and open pit methods, resulting in the extraction of large rocks which are then transported to processing plants in trucks with wheels that can be up to 4 meters tall. Once at the plant, the rocks are crushed and processed using either hydrometallurgical methods like leaching or concentration processes. In leaching, the copper is chemically extracted from the rock using a solution and then electrolysis is used to create a copper plate. In contrast, concentration processes involve grinding the rock into a powder and separating the copper particles, resulting in a 30% concentrate that is taken to a smelting facility. The entire process from mining to smelting is a complex and large-scale operation with huge dimensions and volumes.

    • Hydrometallurgical Process vs Concentrate Flotation: Differences and ImplicationsHydrometallurgical processing produces high-purity copper on-site and uses water and renewable energy, while concentrate smelting is primarily done off-site, has a larger carbon footprint, and China dominates the market.

      The hydrometallurgical process and concentration flotation are two different methods used to refine copper, with significant implications for the global value chain and geography. Hydrometallurgical processing produces a final copper cathode of 99.999% purity on-site, while concentrate smelting is primarily done off-site, with approximately 50% of global smelting capacity located in China. China's dominance in concentrate smelting has led to discussions about its market power. From a cost perspective, the cost to build refining capacity varies between the two methods, with hydrometallurgical processes using water and recovering chemicals, while concentrate smelting requires more energy. Additionally, the environmental impact differs, with hydrometallurgical processes using water and transitioning to renewable energy sources, while concentrate smelting has a larger carbon footprint. The mining process itself is a significant source of greenhouse gases, and while both methods have a base level of emissions, hydrometallurgical processes have lower emissions due to the use of water and the transition to renewable energy sources for electrodeposition.

    • Higher energy, water consumption, and emissions in concentration processThe concentration process in copper production consumes more energy, water, and generates more emissions compared to the leaching process. It requires more energy for crushing, pumping, and dewatering, generates larger tailings, and emits more during smelting.

      The concentration process in copper production, which is the pyrometallurgical route, has a higher overall energy consumption, water consumption, and emission levels compared to the leaching process, which is the hydrometallurgical route. The concentration process requires more energy for crushing and milling to achieve smaller particle sizes, pumping water, and dewatering. It also generates larger quantities of tailings, which require water for setting and movement. Additionally, the concentrate is shipped in bulk form, which requires more energy for transportation, and is then smelted in large facilities with environmental concerns. On the other hand, the leaching process, while having lower environmental impacts, requires a different set of capital investments to build new refining capacity, with costs usually in the billions of dollars. It's important to note that mines typically start processing surface materials, which can be processed through hydrometallurgy, while deeper deposits containing sulfides require concentration processes. Understanding these differences is crucial as we discuss the challenges in the copper market and the need for new solutions to extract more copper efficiently and sustainably.

    • Meeting the Challenge of Increasing Copper DemandThe copper industry faces high costs and complex permitting processes as it transitions from extracting copper oxides to copper sulfides, making it increasingly expensive to meet projected copper demand. Innovative solutions are needed to ensure a sustainable and efficient copper supply chain.

      The copper industry faces a significant challenge in meeting the projected increase in copper demand due to both economic growth and the transition to a green economy. While there are abundant copper reserves, the shift from extracting copper oxides to copper sulfides requires substantial investments and infrastructure, leading to high costs and complex permitting processes. Approximately 80% of copper is currently produced from copper sulfides using concentration methods, while only 20% comes from copper oxides through hydrometallurgical processes. As mines move from copper oxides to copper sulfides, the transition becomes increasingly expensive, with the potential for billion-dollar investments required for concentration plants and the need for new permits for water consumption and tailing dams. With copper demand projected to double in the next few decades, the industry must find innovative solutions to meet this challenge and ensure a sustainable and efficient copper supply chain.

    • Copper mining faces challenges in increasing productionThe copper mining industry must find ways to extract copper from lower-grade ores and refractory minerals or develop new technologies to meet the growing demand in a green economy

      The copper mining industry faces significant challenges in increasing production due to the degrading quality of ore deposits and the increasing complexity of extracting copper from refractory minerals. This process is lengthy, expensive, and resource-intensive, requiring massive investments in new technologies, larger mines, and more water and energy. Additionally, the permitting process for new mines is becoming increasingly difficult and time-consuming, adding to the industry's challenges. As a result, while we have good visibility into new mine capacity over the next decade, it may not be enough to meet the growing demand for copper in a world transitioning to a green economy. The industry must find ways to extract copper from lower-grade ores and refractory minerals using traditional processing methods or develop new technologies to keep up with the demand.

    • Meeting the world's increasing demand for copperSaba's technology uses hydrometallurgical processes to extract copper from sulfide ores, preserving 4 million tons of leaching capacity and contributing to meeting the world's copper needs

      The world faces a significant challenge in meeting the increasing demand for copper, as the amount required in the next 30 years is estimated to be equivalent to all the copper produced in history. Traditional mining methods are insufficient, as many existing mines have depleting ore grades and face geopolitical challenges in extracting copper from sulfide ores using concentration processes. The transition from oxide to sulfide ores requires expensive and difficult-to-obtain permits and massive capital investment. However, Saba's technology aims to use hydrometallurgical processes to extract copper from sulfide ores using existing infrastructure, preserving the 4 million tons of leaching capacity in the world and contributing to the overall solution to meet the world's copper needs.

    • Extracting refractory ores like chalcopyrite is vital for maintaining and increasing copper mining outputEffectively extracting refractory ores, which hold 70% of copper reserves, is crucial for long-term mining profitability and sustainability. Cash cost and adaptability to changing mineral compositions are key factors for new technology success.

      In the mining industry, particularly in copper mining, using existing infrastructure and finding ways to effectively extract refractory ores like chalcopyrite is crucial for maintaining current output and potentially increasing it in the future. This strategy is important because chalcopyrite holds approximately 70% of the planet's copper reserves, and technology that can effectively extract it can keep current assets productive and provide opportunities for new projects. Moreover, while there are several key factors to consider for a new technology to succeed in the mining industry, two stand out: cash cost and the ability to adapt to changing mineral compositions over time. Mining companies closely monitor cash costs, which can significantly impact their profitability and long-term sustainability, especially during price fluctuations. Additionally, the mining industry is long-term, and operators aim to have assets that can operate for decades. However, the mineral composition can change over time, making it essential for new technologies to be adaptable to these evolving conditions.

    • Considerations for mining technologyTo succeed in mining technology development, focus on being cost-efficient, robust, and environmentally friendly, addressing permitting cycles and infrastructure requirements.

      When it comes to developing technology for mining operations, there are several key considerations. First and foremost, it's essential to be cost-efficient and robust in the face of changing ore grades and compositions. Environmental concerns, such as greenhouse gas emissions and water consumption, are also crucial. The permitting cycle and infrastructure requirements are additional factors that need to be taken into account. As a technology developer, it's necessary to understand and fit into this decision-making process by being as cheap, environmentally friendly, and robust as possible. Cristobal Unduraga, CEO of Sabo, emphasized these points in a recent interview on the Catalyst podcast. The mining industry is complex, and technology developers must consider these factors to be successful.

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    42:00 How early thoughts about waste and experiences with money have led Louise to where she is now.

     

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