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    LGBTQ Vets Still Suffering The Consequences of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    en-usJuly 04, 2023

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    • Impact of societal norms and policies on individuals' livesHistorically, societal norms and policies have influenced individuals' identity and personal freedoms. The 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy in the US military, which hid LGBTQ+ individuals' sexual orientation, was a compromise. It was in effect until 2011 and emphasized the importance of acknowledging individual differences for a more inclusive society.

      Societal norms and policies can significantly impact individuals' lives, particularly in areas related to identity and personal freedoms. This discussion highlights the historical context of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in the US military, which allowed LGBTQ+ individuals to serve but required them to hide their sexual orientation. This policy, signed by President Bill Clinton in 1993, was a compromise between individual rights and military needs. People like Latonya White and Tammy Smith had to live a double life while serving their country. This policy was in effect until 2011 when it was repealed, allowing LGBTQ+ individuals to serve openly. This discussion also emphasizes the importance of acknowledging and respecting individual differences to create a more inclusive and equitable society. Progressive Insurance and CFP professionals continue to support and advocate for such changes.

    • The 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' era and its impact on LGBTQ service membersDuring the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' era, thousands of LGBTQ service members were discharged, denying them benefits and opportunities. The repeal of the policy in 2011 allowed for open service but left a lasting impact on those affected.

      During a significant period in American history, known as the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" era, LGBTQ service members faced immense fear and uncertainty due to the risk of being outed or discharged from the military. This led many to hide their identities and maintain separate social circles. Thousands were discharged under this policy, denying them benefits and opportunities. However, after a long-fought battle, the policy was repealed in 2011, allowing LGBTQ individuals to serve openly. Despite this progress, many veterans who received other than honorable discharges under the policy still face challenges in accessing their benefits. The repeal marked a significant step towards equality, but the consequences of the law's implementation continue to impact the lives of affected individuals.

    • VA extends disability benefits to LGBTQ veteransThe VA's decision to extend disability benefits to LGBTQ veterans is a step forward, but mental health assistance remains a challenge for many.

      The recent decision by the VA to extend disability benefits to LGBTQ veterans is a positive step forward, but there is still a long way to go in ensuring these veterans receive the mental health assistance they need. The NPR report highlights the stories of two men, Stefanidis and Alexander, who joined the military around the same time and faced different outcomes due to the military's discriminatory policies. While Stefanidis was discharged and struggled to receive benefits, Alexander was able to serve a successful career. The VA's decision to extend benefits is a step in the right direction, but it's important to remember that many LGBTQ veterans still face unique challenges and need continued support. The NPR report also highlights the importance of renewed investment in mental health services for all veterans, regardless of sexual orientation.

    • Impact of military's ban on openly gay troopsThe military's ban on openly gay troops led to varying outcomes: some hid their sexuality for decades, while others faced dishonorable discharges, loss of benefits, and homelessness.

      The military's ban on openly gay troops led to different outcomes for individuals. For some, like Alexander, they were able to hide their sexuality for decades, climbing the ranks in the military, but living in fear of being discovered. For others, like Stefanidis, being caught led to a dishonorable discharge, loss of VA benefits, and social ostracism, ultimately leading to homelessness and substance abuse. The ban's end in 2011 brought new opportunities for open service, but the experiences of those who served before then left lasting impacts.

    • Challenges for LGBTQ veterans in receiving benefits despite progressDespite progress, over 100,000 LGBTQ veterans may not have received benefits they deserve due to 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' discharges, and the process for upgrading is lengthy and challenging for many

      Despite the progress made in allowing LGBTQ service members to serve openly in the military, many veterans who were discharged under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy are still facing challenges in receiving the benefits they deserve. Bob Alexander, a gay veteran who came out during his service and faced validation and acceptance, later realized the importance of helping other veterans who didn't have the same experience. However, finding and reaching out to these veterans was a challenge. The Pentagon's process for upgrading discharges is lengthy, and many veterans may not want to reopen old wounds. The VA offers a quicker solution, but it doesn't track the number of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" veterans it has upgraded. Advocates estimate that over 100,000 veterans were discharged for their sexuality since World War 2, and only about 1% have been upgraded by discharge review boards. The VA encourages veterans, survivors, and family members impacted by "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" to come forward and seek the benefits they have earned.

    • Societal stigmas prevent individuals from accessing resourcesSocietal stigmas can prevent individuals from recognizing their eligibility for essential resources and support. Recognizing and addressing these stigmas is crucial for ensuring that everyone has access to the benefits they deserve.

      Societal stigmas and misconceptions can prevent individuals from accessing essential resources and support, even when they are eligible. This was the case for Stefan Stefanidis, a gay veteran who was unaware of his eligibility for VA benefits due to the trauma of being discharged from the military for being gay. Bob Alexander, a veteran advocate, recognized the need and set up a booth at a homeless fair in San Francisco to help restore VA benefits to those who had been overlooked. Despite Stefan's initial reluctance, the acknowledgement and validation from the VA as a veteran was a transformative experience for him. This story highlights the importance of addressing societal stigmas and ensuring that individuals are aware of their rights and resources, regardless of their background or past experiences. Alexander's work continues to inspire and support LGBTQ veterans, and Stefan now runs a support group in San Francisco for this community.

    • Thousands of veterans may miss out on benefits due to complex processDespite political challenges, it's crucial to continue efforts to help veterans access their rightful benefits

      Thousands of veterans are likely living without their benefits due to the complex and time-consuming process of upgrading their paperwork. NPR reported that finding these veterans and upgrading their records is an unlikely task given the current political climate and criticisms of the military as "woke." This issue highlights the challenges veterans face in accessing the benefits they deserve, and the importance of sustained efforts to address these issues. It's a reminder that supporting and caring for our veterans is an ongoing responsibility, not just a one-time act.

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