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    Meltdown and Spectre will kill us all

    enJanuary 05, 2018

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    • Meltdown and Spectre: Major Security Vulnerabilities in Intel ProcessorsTwo major security bugs, Meltdown and Spectre, have been discovered in Intel processors, allowing unauthorized access to sensitive information and potentially impacting all modern processors for years to come.

      A major security vulnerability affecting Intel processors, known as Meltdown and Spectre, has been discovered. These bugs allow unauthorized access to sensitive information, such as passwords and encryption keys, by exploiting the way processors handle kernel memory during speculative execution. Meltdown specifically affects Intel processors, while Spectre can potentially impact all modern processors. The discovery of these bugs marks a significant development in computer security, and their impact could be felt for years to come. The Verge team will be covering the fallout from this news, including the response from Intel and other affected companies, at CES next week through their Circle Breaker show on Twitter.

    • Meltdown exploit: Unauthorized CPU access through out-of-order executionMeltdown exploit lets attackers access sensitive data by manipulating CPU's out-of-order execution and branch prediction capabilities, posing a significant security risk

      The Meltdown exploit, discovered by Google's Project Zero team, allows unauthorized access to sensitive information by taking advantage of a CPU's out-of-order execution and branch prediction capabilities. This results in illegal actions happening in a parallel universe, with the CPU effectively acting as a semaphore, allowing the results of these actions to be detected. This is a serious security vulnerability, as it allows unauthorized access to memory that should be off-limits. Google, through Project Zero, has been proactive in discovering and disclosing such vulnerabilities to improve overall cybersecurity. The metaphors used to explain this concept may have added complexity rather than simplifying the understanding, but the underlying issue is that CPUs are processing instructions in an unintended order, leading to potential security breaches.

    • Recent processor vulnerabilities affect multiple companiesGoogle discovered Meltdown and Spectre, complex vulnerabilities allowing unauthorized memory access and exploiting branch prediction, impacting Intel and AMD processors, requiring patches and ongoing vigilance

      The recently disclosed Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities affect multiple processors, including those from Intel and AMD, and not just one specific company. These vulnerabilities are complex and have widespread implications, making it challenging to keep information under embargo. Google, in partnership with academic researchers, discovered these serious security flaws. Meltdown allows an attacker to access sensitive information, such as passwords, by tricking the processor into accessing unauthorized memory. Spectre, on the other hand, exploits branch prediction to read information from areas of memory that should be off-limits. AMD processors may be safer from Meltdown due to their architecture, but both vulnerabilities pose significant risks. The implications of these vulnerabilities are still being explored, and it's crucial for organizations and individuals to stay informed and apply patches as they become available.

    • Spectre vulnerability targets CPU's isolation of processesThe Spectre vulnerability is a significant threat to computer security, allowing unauthorized access to sensitive information even at low privilege levels, and can be exploited through JavaScript code on web browsers, affecting various devices including iOS and Apple's A series processors.

      The Spectre security vulnerability is a significant threat to computer security as it allows unauthorized access to sensitive information, even at the lowest privilege levels. This attack is particularly concerning because it targets the fundamental building blocks of computer security, specifically the CPU's isolation of processes. The vulnerability can be exploited through JavaScript code running on a web browser, and the implications are still being evaluated. Researchers have been quietly patching against the vulnerability, but the lack of clear communication and the potential impact on various devices make it difficult for individuals to know how to protect themselves. The Spectre vulnerability is not limited to desktop computers and affects any processor that uses out-of-order execution and speculative execution branch prediction. While there have been patches released, the impact on devices like iOS and Apple's A series processors is still unclear. Overall, the Spectre vulnerability represents a significant challenge to computer security and highlights the importance of ongoing research and communication in the field.

    • Spectre and Meltdown: Uncertain Impact on Performance and SecuritySpectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities affect multiple processors, allow unauthorized data access and privilege escalation, patches may cause performance degradation, uncertainty surrounds long-term implications for Moore's Law, underlying issues with chip design need addressing for secure computing systems.

      The Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities affect multiple processors, including those from AMD and Intel, and the industry is working on patches to mitigate the issue. The exact impact on performance and the extent of the vulnerability on different chips are still uncertain. The Spectre vulnerability allows unauthorized access to sensitive data, while Meltdown enables privilege escalation. Google and Intel have reported that patches will cause minimal performance degradation, but concerns remain about potential slowdowns and the long-term implications for Moore's Law. The vulnerabilities exploit the way modern processors handle exceptions, which are common in C and C++ programming. The industry learned about these techniques for improving chip performance 20 years ago, and it's unclear why they wouldn't work on Apple chips. The uncertainty surrounding the patches and their potential impact on performance has caused widespread concern and anger, particularly towards Intel, who was initially the most affected by the Meltdown vulnerability. The long-term consequences of these vulnerabilities and their patches remain to be seen, but it's clear that significant changes are needed to address the underlying issues and ensure the security of modern computing systems.

    • A shift in tech industry priorities towards battery life, security and balanced approachApple battery controversy highlights consumers' acceptance of slower performance for longer battery life or greater security. Tech giants like Intel face challenges with fundamental design flaws. Cloud security is a major concern as hundreds of apps can access each other's info.

      The technology industry may be experiencing a recalibration in priorities, as companies grapple with the limitations of processor performance and the importance of battery life and security. The recent Apple battery controversy is an example of this trend, with consumers showing a willingness to accept slower performance in exchange for longer battery life or greater security. This shift could have significant implications for tech giants like Intel, whose dominance in the industry makes their chips an industry-wide problem when a fundamental design flaw is discovered. Additionally, the vulnerability of cloud servers to security threats is a much more concerning issue, as hundreds of apps running on these servers can potentially access each other's information. Overall, the industry may be moving away from an obsessive focus on processor speed and towards a more balanced approach to technology development.

    • Spectre security vulnerability: Uncertain fixes and ongoing researchDespite initial concerns, Intel's response to the Spectre security vulnerability may have been effective, but long-term implications and trust remain uncertain. Ongoing research is necessary to fully understand the situation.

      The Spectre security vulnerability, initially perceived as a major threat with long-term consequences, may have been mitigated faster than anticipated by tech giants like Google and Amazon. However, the robustness and effectiveness of these fixes remain uncertain, and ongoing research is necessary to fully understand their implications. The initial lack of trust in Intel's response to the issue, due to a history of conflicting statements and executive stock sales, has made it difficult for the public to fully trust the current narrative. The complex nature of these security vulnerabilities, which can have multiple variants and evade detection, adds to the challenge of achieving a definitive resolution. The upcoming CES event featuring Intel's CEO is expected to provide new insights into the situation. It's important to note that these vulnerabilities are not simple bugs, but rather sophisticated defenses against security threats, and Intel's processors continue to be widely used despite concerns. Additionally, side channel attacks, like the one used against Spectre, are a type of cryptographic attack that exploit information leaked through indirect channels rather than direct vulnerabilities in the code.

    • Physical processes in digital securityUnderstanding physical processes in digital security, like encryption and cache systems, is crucial for identifying vulnerabilities and staying secure. Open-source architectures may offer transparency but still require effective patching and addressing of vulnerabilities.

      Even in the digital world of computers, there are physical processes at play that can be exploited for security vulnerabilities. For instance, in the context of bank vaults and computer caches, data is protected through encryption and special writing techniques, but these processes leave detectable signs that can be observed and deciphered with the right tools. This concept is not limited to cache systems; it also applies to cryptography and other areas of computer security. As computers have become more solid-state and less transparent, the idea that physical processes are still happening inside them can be a hard concept to grasp. However, it's important to remember that every security assumption is based on certain logical elements, and when those elements break down, vulnerabilities can arise. For example, the open-source processor architecture RiskV has gained popularity due to its simplicity and transparency, but it remains to be seen if it will be any more immune to vulnerabilities than more complex, proprietary architectures. The idealistic notion that open architecture will lead to more efficient problem-solving is true, but the challenge lies in applying patches and addressing vulnerabilities in a timely and effective manner. Ultimately, it's crucial to remain aware of the physical processes happening within our digital devices and to approach security with a multifaceted, proactive mindset.

    • Companies' responsibility to patch vulnerabilitiesCompanies need to quickly address and distribute patches for vulnerabilities. Open-source systems can pose challenges, but individuals should prioritize updating devices as soon as patches are available.

      The control and responsibility for patching vulnerabilities lie heavily with the companies producing the hardware and software. Intel's ability to quickly address and distribute patches for its processors is an advantage, but the open-source nature of some systems can lead to vulnerabilities being exploited before patches are widely distributed. The ongoing challenge is for companies like Google to effectively address and patch vulnerabilities in their software, particularly in the case of Android devices. The open-source community can also pose challenges, as seen in the recent Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities, where patches were shared through unofficial channels and caused performance issues. Ultimately, the average person should prioritize updating their devices as soon as patches become available to protect against known vulnerabilities. However, the complexities of the tech industry mean that there is still much we don't know about the full implications of these vulnerabilities and the best ways to address them.

    • New XPS 13 laptop with mustard-resistant design unveiled at CES 2023Dell's new XPS 13 laptop boasts a mustard-resistant design, but the Windows Hello camera's location remains a drawback.

      Dell is introducing a new mustard-resistant version of its XPS 13 laptop at CES 2023. This white laptop, which features a woven carbon fiber texture on the palm rest, is claimed to wipe off staining materials like mustard within a week without any damage. However, the speaker's excitement was dampened when they discovered that the Windows Hello camera, which is essential for the laptop's login feature, is still located at the bottom of the device. Despite the laptop's improved design and other features, the speaker expressed disappointment that Dell didn't address the issue of the camera's location, which had been a common complaint among users. Overall, the mustard resistance feature is an intriguing addition, but its significance remains to be seen in the context of the laptop's other features and user experience.

    • Discussing camera placement and mustard resistanceAddressing existing problems before introducing new features is crucial in product development. Be mindful of consumer needs and avoid unnecessary complications.

      Prioritizing and solving existing problems before introducing new features is essential in product development. This was evident in a discussion about camera placement and mustard resistance, where the team acknowledged the importance of addressing the former before focusing on the latter. The conversation also touched upon the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show (CES) and the expected influx of new gadgets, with some concerns raised about unnecessary features and the potential for outdated technology. For instance, the addition of Google Assistant to WebOS TVs was seen as a solution to a problem that might not exist for many consumers. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of carefully considering consumer needs and avoiding unnecessary complications in product design.

    • Expanding beyond ecosystems: Challenges for Alexa and Google AssistantAmazon Alexa and Google Assistant aim to be de facto virtual assistants, but face unique challenges: Alexa needs to improve interaction outside home, while Google Assistant leverages user data for natural interaction but lacks third-party support. User experience remains a key concern with frustrations over ad integration and inconsistent functionality.

      Both Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant are making strides in expanding their presence beyond their respective ecosystems, but each faces unique challenges. Alexa, with its vast array of skills and apps, needs to improve its ability to understand and interact effectively outside the home. Google Assistant, on the other hand, leverages its knowledge of users' digital lives to provide a more natural interaction, but lacks the same level of third-party support. The race is on for these virtual assistants to become the de facto standard, with Amazon leading currently but Google and Apple pushing hard to catch up. However, the user experience remains a key concern, with frustrations around ad integration and inconsistent functionality. Ultimately, the success of these virtual assistants will depend on their ability to seamlessly integrate with users' lives and provide value beyond the basics.

    • Holiday tech challenges and misconceptionsDespite the complexities of technology, it's important to make it accessible and understandable for all users. Many people hold misconceptions about tech and avoid fixing issues, but simple solutions can make a big difference.

      Many people have limited understanding of how technology works and when things break, they often avoid fixing it or create workarounds instead. This was evident during the holiday season when the speaker encountered numerous tech-related issues and misconceptions. For instance, they and their roommates struggled to find a way to count down to midnight using Siri, and many people they encountered had outdated software or misunderstood basic tech concepts. The speaker was amazed by the number of assumptions people held about technology, such as believing Alexa is always listening or that Facebook listens to your conversations to serve ads. Despite these challenges, the speaker found solace in the simplicity of Netflix's New Year's Eve countdown shows for children and the fact that even the most complex tech companies can create user-friendly solutions. Overall, the holiday season served as a reminder of the importance of making technology accessible and understandable for all users.

    • Exploring New Devices: User Satisfaction and ConvenienceThe focus on user satisfaction and convenience drives technology advancements, from smartphones to smart homes, despite some inconveniences.

      Technology continues to evolve with new devices and innovations, but the focus on user satisfaction and convenience is becoming increasingly important. The speaker discusses his recent purchases, including an Osmo mobile with a 3.5 millimeter jack and a USB-C switch, a Nikon D7500 DSLR, a Bluetooth speaker, and a smart home device. He expresses his appreciation for the convenience and functionality these devices offer, despite some of their inconveniences. He also mentions his sister's use of an Echo Show for setting timers and checking remaining time. The speaker also touches on the growing backlash against tech companies and Facebook's efforts to prioritize user satisfaction over time and money. He expresses cautious optimism about Mark Zuckerberg's 2018 project to work on making Facebook a better place, including potential exploration of decentralization and cryptocurrencies.

    • Upcoming live shows at CES with special guestsThe Circuit Breaker podcast is hosting live shows at CES with guests like Sam Sheffer, Paul, and the return of Why Did You Push That Button with Caitlin Tiffany and Ashley Carmen, as well as a new show by Casey Newton.

      The hosts of the Circuit Breaker podcast are looking forward to their upcoming live shows at CES, featuring guests like Sam Sheffer and Paul, as well as the return of Why Did You Push That Button with Caitlin Tiffany and Ashley Carmen. They also mentioned that Casey Newton will be starting a new show this year. However, they lamented about the loss angle in the rise of Bitcoin prices and expressed hope for a David Fincher-directed movie about Zach Morris and the Winklevoss twins. Despite some challenges, such as scheduling the last episode the day after their staff party, they are excited for the upcoming events and encouraged listeners to tune in. Additionally, they recommended other stable programs on the Recode Network for those not interested in CS.

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    10 things in cybersecurity that you might have missed in 2017, a flaw in major browsers, a critical flaw in phpMyAdmin, beware of a VMWare VDP remote root issue, how to protect your home router, Meltdown and Spectre explain how chip hacks work, and Intel is in the security Hot Seat over a serious CPU design flaw!

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    Jake Williams, SANS - Paul's Security Weekly #543

    Jake Williams, SANS - Paul's Security Weekly #543

    Jake Williams is the founder of Rendition Infosec and is a Senior Instructor at the SANS Institute. MalwareJake clears last weeks news story with the latest news on Meltdown and Spectre. He joins us this week for an interview!

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    Episode 19 (6th April 2018): Apple could make an Intel-ligent switch to its own processors

    Episode 19 (6th April 2018): Apple could make an Intel-ligent switch to its own processors
    This week on the Friday News Update: - Apple could start using its own processors instead of Intel's in its Macs by 2020 - Apple could start producing microLED screens for Apple Watches this year and might use the screens in AR glasses and future iMacs - The new Mac Pro is coming in 2019 - OnePlus confirm some specs of the OnePlus 6 and that you will be able to hide its notch - New wireless OnePlus Bullets earphones could be announced alongside the OnePlus 6 - Samsung is apparently working on Galaxy A6 and A6+ mid-range phones with Infinity Displays - Galaxy S6 will no longer receive software or security updates - Samsung announce the Notebook Odyssey Z gaming laptop with great specs - The Pixel 3 is definitely coming, possibly alongside a mid-range Pixel - LG G7 ThinQ rumoured renders published online - The Moto G6 could be announced on the 19th of April - You can now buy games from Razer via the Razer Game Store Get every episode of the Friday News Update with the Friday News Update Alexa Flash Briefing