Logo
    Search

    Monsters of the Shān Hǎi Jīng, Part 2

    enFebruary 11, 2021

    Podcast Summary

    • Exploring the power of community and connectionBuilding relationships, engaging in intergenerational conversations, and exploring new perspectives are all essential for personal growth and preparedness. Ancient texts like the Shan Hai Xing remind us of the depth and richness of human imagination and the importance of connection.

      Community and connection are essential for personal growth and preparedness, as emphasized by the Neighbor to Neighbor network and various podcasts. Whether it's building relationships with neighbors or engaging in intergenerational conversations, the power of community is a recurring theme. The Shan Hai Xing, an ancient Chinese text, also highlights the importance of understanding and connecting with the world around us, as it introduces us to various gods, monsters, and mythical beings. These stories serve as reminders of the depth and richness of human imagination and the value of exploring new perspectives. So, whether you're looking to build stronger bonds with your neighbors or delve into the fantastical world of ancient mythology, there's something for everyone. Connect, engage, and explore the wonders of the world around you.

    • The mythological creature Dijiang from Shanghai Jing and its connections to chaos and confusionThe ancient Chinese text Shanghai Jing describes a creature named Dijiang, which is depicted as a six-legged, winged being with no face or eyes, and is associated with chaos and confusion. Different translations can lead to varying interpretations of the creature's appearance and the term hundun.

      The ancient Chinese text, Shanghai Jing, describes a mythological creature named Dijiang, which is often depicted as a six-legged, winged being with no face or eyes. This creature is also associated with the concept of hundun, which can refer to chaos and primeval chaos or a person who is ignorant and muddle-headed. The translation of the text can vary, leading to differences in interpretations. For instance, the mountain in one translation is called Mount Sky, while in another it's called the celestial mountain. The term "muddle thick" in one translation is translated as "exists in a state of confusion with no face or eyes" in another. The creature's lack of bodily orifices is emphasized in parallel texts from the 4th century BCE. The creature's appearance and the term hundun have connections to modern concepts, such as chaos theory in mathematics and the Chinese dish wontons. It's important to keep in mind that the translation of ancient texts can be complex and nuanced, and different interpretations can lead to various understandings of the same text.

    • The Myth of Hundun: A Warning Against Forcing Order on NatureForcing artificial order on the natural world can lead to disastrous consequences, as depicted in the ancient Chinese myth of Hundun.

      The myth of Hundun, a chaos deity from ancient Chinese texts, can be interpreted as a warning against imposing artificial order on the natural world. The deity, described as faceless and eyeless, yet the originator of song and dance, bears resemblance to the chaotic and supernatural character Judge Holden from Cormac McCarthy's "Blood Meridian." Hundun resides in a central region where two gods, representing fast and swift, come to meet and express their gratitude. However, they struggle to repay the deity due to its lack of openings for senses, leading them to drill holes into it, ultimately causing its death. The myth is traditionally interpreted within Daoism as a reminder against inflicting purposeful activity or unnatural order on the natural world, which can lead to disastrous consequences.

    • The dangers of imposing order on chaosTrying to control or order chaos can lead to the destruction of creativity and natural beauty.

      The pursuit of order and control can sometimes lead to the destruction of creativity and natural beauty. This idea is exemplified in ancient texts like the "Classic of Mountains and Seas," where the chaos creature HunDun represents the perils of trying to impose order on the natural world. The movie "Wayne's World" offers a modern-day example of this concept, as the organic and improvised nature of the TV show is lost when it is formalized and commercialized. This pattern of stifling creativity is also seen in other areas, such as the goose that lays golden eggs and the attempt to extract all the eggs at once, resulting in the goose's death. The Dijiang, a creature from the "Classic of Mountains and Seas," is another representation of this formless chaos that exists before order, with its featureless body and lack of direction. The comparison of the Dijiang's body to a dead god's body and the universe's creation from it is an intriguing concept, but its significance is not fully clear. Overall, the lesson is that sometimes, it's important to let things be and not try to control or order them too much, as doing so can lead to their demise.

    • Mythical Creatures Daijing and Hun Dun: Interconnected Yet DistinctThe Daijing and Hun Dun are mythical creatures from Chinese folklore, each with distinct meanings. The Daijing is a cosmic creature associated with confusion, while Hun Dun is a personification of chaos or confusion. Though their interpretations have evolved, the Daijing and Hun Dun reflect the human need to find order in a chaotic world.

      The Daijing and Hun Dun are mythical creatures from Chinese folklore with interconnected yet distinct meanings. The Daijing, a supernatural bird with six legs, four wings, no face, and no eyes, is often associated with cosmic confusion in Chinese mythology. On the other hand, Hun Dun, the evil son of Theor Kong, is also known as Hyundun and is described as a personification of chaos or confusion. Both the Daijing and Hun Dun have been interpreted in various ways throughout history, with some seeing them as opposing forces to the benevolent animals in Chinese cosmology. Despite these interpretations, the textual basis for identifying the Daijing with Hun Dun is slim, and they can be regarded as separate entities. The concept of Hun Dun as a personified deity has mostly vanished from Chinese pantheons, but the term "Hun Dun" continues to denote an impersonal state of universal chaos before the birth of the bipolar forces of yin and yang. In a broader sense, the myths of the Daijing and Hun Dun reflect the human desire to make sense of the chaotic world around us and to find order in the seemingly uncertain.

    • Embrace solutions for physical and emotional challengesAstepro provides allergy relief, 'A Really Good Cry' offers emotional support, Shopify helps grow businesses, and deep-sea discoveries surprise us

      There are solutions for both physical and emotional relief. Astepro is a 24-hour, steroid-free allergy spray offering fast relief from nasal congestion, runny and itchy nose, and sneezing. On the emotional side, Radi DeLucia's podcast, "A Really Good Cry," provides a space to process emotions, learn from experts, and build a happier, healthier life. For business owners, Shopify is a versatile platform to help grow a business, no matter the size or stage. Meanwhile, in the realm of the unexpected, a faceless fish was discovered during a deep-sea expedition. This creature, named typhlonos nasus, is a blind hake, and its lack of facial features is not uncommon in some deep-sea creatures. These findings serve as reminders that there are always solutions for various challenges, whether physical or emotional, and that the world continues to surprise us with its wonders. To summarize, Astepro offers allergy relief, "A Really Good Cry" offers emotional support, Shopify offers business growth, and the deep sea offers faceless wonders. Embrace the solutions and the surprises.

    • Deep-sea creatures' unique featuresDeep-sea creatures, like the Cusk Eel and Lookflesh, have evolved features essential for survival in their extreme environments. Respect for nature is crucial to avoid harming these fascinating creatures.

      The Cusk Eel, a deep-sea creature discussed in the text, has eyes covered by skin on its head, making it appear faceless. This unique feature might make customers uneasy when encountering the fish, but it's essential for the creature's survival in its extreme environment. The Cusk Eel is not senseless as it may seem; deep-sea organisms have highly evolved senses to adapt to their surroundings. The text also highlights the importance of respecting the natural world and avoiding causing harm to it, as seen in the third Creature from the Black Lagoon film. The Lookflesh creature, another denizen of the deep sea, is another bizarre creature mentioned in the text, often listed casually alongside other creatures. It is a part of the global, timeless, big rock candy mountain, a metaphorical utopia where everything is surreal and unusual, just like the deep-sea creatures described in the text.

    • The Look Flesh Creature: A Utopian Symbol of Endless SustenanceAncient populations saw the look flesh creature as a source of endless food, while modern examples like the beefsteak fungus have no proven evolutionary advantage for their meat-like appearance.

      The look flesh creature in the text is described as a utopian symbol of endless sustenance, represented by a mass of flesh that regenerates when consumed. This idea resonated with impoverished ancient populations, offering a source of food that would never run out. The creature's eyes, though seemingly unnecessary for its purpose, may serve as a reminder that it is a living organism. In nature, there are examples of organisms, like the fistulina hepatica fungus, which resemble raw meat, but its resemblance to meat may not have any adaptive purpose. The fungus, known as "beefsteak fungus," looks and acts like raw meat when cut, with a red juice similar to myoglobin. However, its taste and texture are debated, making it an adventurous culinary endeavor for some. Despite its appearance and potential edibility, there is no evidence that the resemblance to raw meat serves any evolutionary advantage for the fungus.

    • Nature's Intriguing Ways to Attract PollinatorsNature uses various strategies to attract pollinators, such as the corpse flower's rotting meat smell. Literature offers imaginative descriptions of creatures, and building a more connected community can lead to stronger relationships.

      Nature has some fascinating ways of attracting pollinators. The Amorphophallus titanum, also known as the corpse flower, is a prime example. This giant plant only blooms every few years and emits a smell of rotting meat to lure in insects, which then carry its pollen to other flowers. This "rotten meat sex" strategy is a clever evolutionary adaptation. It's a reminder of the intricate relationships between different species in the natural world. Another interesting tidbit from the discussion was the mention of a mushroom dog in the Shanhaixing. It's not a dog made of mushrooms but rather a description of an animal. This just goes to show the rich and imaginative descriptions of creatures in literature. Lastly, the conversation touched upon the concept of building a more connected community. Neighbor to Neighbor is an initiative that encourages people to form bonds with their neighbors, creating a stronger and more resilient community. So, in essence, nature has some intriguing ways of attracting pollinators, literature offers imaginative descriptions of creatures, and building a more connected community can lead to stronger relationships.

    • The Power of Self-Belief and Embracing EmotionsSelf-belief and optimism can lead to new opportunities and discoveries, as Danielle Robae's podcast, The Bright Side, explores. Mythological creatures like the Zou Wu and Ghoul's inhabitants remind us of the universal presence of fantastical beings and the importance of embracing emotions.

      Self-belief and optimism can lead to new opportunities and discoveries. Danielle Robae shares her belief in the power of self-confidence and the importance of embracing emotions. She encourages listeners to tune in to her podcast, The Bright Side, for daily conversations about culture, trends, and inspiration. Grand Canyon University offers affordable education with significant scholarships for online students. In mythology, the Zou Wu, or "escort my," is a large, five-colored creature with a long tail. Riding it allows one to cover great distances. Its description shares similarities with the panda, and it has been depicted in various texts and even in the Fantastic Beasts movies. The land of Ghoul, also known as May, is home to beings with human bodies and black heads, and their eyes are set vertically in their faces. This parallel passage in ancient texts also describes the inhabitants as having porcine heads with vertical eyes and loose hair. These creatures, known as May Hobgoblins, are dangerous and can attack unwary travelers. Despite the differences in translations and cultures, there seems to be a universal presence of creatures like goblins and trolls in various mythologies. These creatures, such as the Zou Wu and the beings of Ghoul, continue to fascinate and inspire us.

    • Mythical Creatures from Ancient Chinese TextThe 'brave pig' or 'hero pig' is actually a porcupine that defends itself by bristling its quills, while the 'thoroughly odd' creature is an ox-like being with porcupine-like needles and a dog-like howl, believed to eat people with long, untied hair.

      The Classic of Mountains and Seas, an ancient Chinese text, contains descriptions of various mythical creatures. One of these creatures is referred to as the "brave pig" or "hero pig," which is believed by some to be a porcupine. However, contrary to popular belief, porcupines do not shoot their quills like projectiles. Instead, they defend themselves by bristling their quills when threatened. Another creature mentioned is the "thoroughly odd," described as an ox-like creature with porcupine-like needles and a dog-like howl. It is said to eat people with long, untied hair, which was believed to be the style of demons and shamans during ancient Chinese times. The origins of these stories may have come from local shamanistic traditions that were later recorded in the Classic of Mountains and Seas.

    • Mythical Creatures and Deities in the Classic of Mountains and SeasThe Classic of Mountains and Seas is known for its intriguing collection of mythical creatures and deities, each with unique characteristics and symbolic meanings, such as the Thoroughly Odd, reminiscent of the gnostic demiurge or Yaldabaoth, and the Vermilion Yan Beast, an omen of great war.

      Key takeaway from our discussion on the "Classic of Mountains and Seas" is the intriguing presence of various mythical creatures and deities, each with unique characteristics and symbolic meanings. One such deity is the Thoroughly Odd, who is described as an untalented son of a thearch, reminiscent of the gnostic demiurge or Yaldabaoth. This comparison highlights the human tendency to attribute the existence of evil or chaos to the offspring of higher beings. Furthermore, the text mentions various creatures, some with ominous significance, like the Vermilion Yan Beast, an ape with a white head and red feet, which is an omen of great war. The text's illustrations, such as the one of the Vermilion Yan Beast, add to the intrigue, as they often depict creatures that are not only fascinating but also carry symbolic meaning. Overall, the "Classic of Mountains and Seas" is a rich source of mythological creatures and stories that continue to fascinate readers and scholars alike.

    • Exploring the Fascinating Creatures of Shanhaixing in Chinese MythologyThe Shanhaixing, a collection of mythical creatures from ancient Chinese folklore, continues to inspire art and media with intriguing beings like Hundun and Deejang. Join us for insights into Chinese culture and mythology.

      The Shanhaixing, a collection of mythical creatures and entities from ancient Chinese folklore, continues to inspire and captivate our imaginations, influencing various forms of art and media. From the enigmatic Hundun to the powerful Deejang, these beings offer intriguing insights into Chinese culture and mythology. If you have any additional information, artwork, or thoughts on these creatures, we'd love to hear from you. You can find new episodes of Stuff to Blow Your Mind on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Mondays for listener mail, Wednesdays for artifact episodes, and Fridays for Weird House Cinema. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast. A special shout-out to our audio producer, Seth Nicholas Johnson. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To contact us, email contact@stufftoblowyourmind.com.

    Recent Episodes from Stuff To Blow Your Mind

    Smart Talks with IBM: AI & the Productivity Paradox

    Smart Talks with IBM: AI & the Productivity Paradox

    In a rapidly evolving world, we need to balance the fear surrounding AI and its role in the workplace with its potential to drive productivity growth. In this special live episode of Smart Talks with IBM, Malcolm Gladwell is joined onstage by Rob Thomas, senior vice president of software and chief commercial officer at IBM, during NY Tech Week. They discuss “the productivity paradox,” the importance of open-source AI, and a future where AI will touch every industry.

    This is a paid advertisement from IBM. The conversations on this podcast don't necessarily represent IBM's positions, strategies or opinions.

    Visit us at ibm.com/smarttalks

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Weirdhouse Cinema: The Dungeonmaster

    Weirdhouse Cinema: The Dungeonmaster

    In this episode of Weirdhouse Cinema, Rob and Joe return to the glorious world of 80s Charles Band productions with 1984’s “The Dungeonmaster,” a supernatural dreamscape with eight directors starring Jeffrey Byron, Richard Moll and Leslie Wing. It’s time to reject the devil’s reality and substitute your own! 

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Related Episodes

    #366 How to connect with your innate creativity, cultivate your vulnerability, and enhance your imagination, with Patrick Williams.

    #366 How to connect with your innate creativity, cultivate your vulnerability, and enhance your imagination, with Patrick Williams.

    Unlock the secrets of your own creative potential as we journey with Patrick Williams, a self-taught painter whose evolution from child artist to creative maestro is nothing short of inspiring. Our conversation isn't limited to the canvas - it's about the creativity that permeates every facet of our lives.

     

    Discover how to rekindle the imaginative play of your youth and harness the inner creative spark that's been waiting to burst forth. Patrick's story is a testament to the universal nature of creativity, reminding us that it's an innate quality we all share, ready to be expressed in myriad ways beyond the traditional arts.

     

    Venture into the spiritual dimensions of creativity as Patrick and I explore how a deeper awareness enhances the creative process. Discover practical techniques for tapping into your creative wellspring, such as focused breathing and immersion in nature. 

     

    We reflect on the deep connection between vulnerability and creativity, and acknowledge the fears that often accompany the act of creation. This discussion promises to shift your perspective, illustrating how vulnerability is not just a challenge to overcome, but a powerful ally in amplifying your creative voice.

     

    Finally, we examine the intricate dance of personal development within the creative journey, encouraging you to nurture your creative spark with the care it deserves, and to listen closely to the whispers of your heart as you create your next masterpiece.

     

    𝗞𝗘𝗬 𝗣𝗢𝗜𝗡𝗧𝗦 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗧𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗦𝗧𝗔𝗠𝗣𝗦

    0:01:56 - Exploring Creativity and Identity

    0:06:05 - Defining and Understanding Creativity

    0:14:14 - Levels of Creativity

    0:20:53 - The Connection Between Vulnerability and Creativity

    0:26:27 - Creativity and Improvisation in Creating Something

    0:31:04 - Artistic Creativity and Social Media Discussion

    0:34:12 - Personal Development and Creativity 

    𝗠𝗘𝗠𝗢𝗥𝗔𝗕𝗟𝗘 𝗤𝗨𝗢𝗧𝗘

    "Don't go too fast. Slow down." 

    𝗩𝗔𝗟𝗨𝗔𝗕𝗟𝗘 𝗥𝗘𝗦𝗢𝗨𝗥𝗖𝗘𝗦

    Patrick's website: http://patrickwilliams.com/

    Instagram: @pmwcreativity

    𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗛𝗢𝗦𝗧

    I am Agi Keramidas, a podcaster, knowledge broker, and mentor. My mission is to inspire you to take action towards a purposeful and fulfilling life.

    Get a free copy of my book "88 Actionable Insights For Life":

    https://agikeramidas.com/88

    𝗦𝗨𝗠𝗠𝗔𝗥𝗬

    1. Embracing Vulnerability in Creativity: Learn the importance of embracing vulnerability as an integral part of the creative process. By understanding that making mistakes and taking risks are necessary for authentic expression, you can unlock a richer and more genuine creative voice.

    2. Connecting with Your Inner Creativity: The conversation provides practical advice on reconnecting with your innate creativity. This includes engaging in simple practices such as focused breathing and spending time in nature, as well as recalling the imaginative play of your childhood to tap into your unique creative potential.

    3. Enhancing Imagination through Practice: The podcast outlines exercises that can stimulate your imagination, such as the practice of drawing circles and making various marks on paper. By doing this regularly, you can train your mind to think more divergently, thereby expanding your creative abilities.

    12. Let’s Get Friendly with Jack - creativity, life paths and the next great Australian novel

    12. Let’s Get Friendly with Jack - creativity, life paths and the next great Australian novel

    Today we’re bringing in a special guest, someone very close to the show and my heart. The wonderful Jack - one of our co-writers and podcast inspos - joins the podcast to talk creative pathways, reflecting on your younger years, our inner child and our concepts for the next greatest Australian novels.

     

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The SpaceShip Earth - Episode 16 - Fridays for Future School Climate Strike Live from Bristol

    The SpaceShip Earth - Episode 16 - Fridays for Future School Climate Strike Live from Bristol
    In this episode I head to Bristol with my son to join the Schools Climate Action strike - Fridays for Future and chat to students to gets a sense of why they're striking and what they hope to achieve. This is experimental, noisey and insightful! Enjoy! Show notes https://www.fridaysforfuture.org/ https://ukscn.org/ https://ukscn.org/ys4c-2 https://www.ipcc.ch/