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    More Jobs for Americans, More Confusion for Investors

    enDecember 02, 2022

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    • US Jobs Report: Higher-than-Expected Earnings and Job LossesThe US jobs market added more jobs than expected in November, but higher-than-expected earnings increase and job losses in retail and transportation sectors could indicate ongoing inflation and economic concerns.

      The US jobs market added more than expected in November, but the average hourly earnings increase and the loss of jobs in retail and transportation sectors could indicate ongoing inflation and economic concerns. The Think Fast, Talk Smart podcast, with its focus on communication skills, can help individuals excel in their personal and professional lives. The podcast features experts discussing tips on making effective small talk, managing speaking anxiety, and taking risks in communication. With over 43 million downloads and available every Tuesday on podcast platforms and YouTube, it's a valuable resource for anyone looking to improve their communication abilities. While the Motley Fool Money team discussed the US jobs report, they noted that the higher-than-expected average hourly earnings increase and the loss of jobs in retail and transportation sectors could impact inflation and the economy moving forward. Despite their preference for discussing company earnings, the team acknowledged the importance of understanding macroeconomic trends.

    • Economic recovery and conflicting signsThe economic recovery is complex with some growth but not back to pre-pandemic levels, low unemployment but potential market downturn, and strong retail sales but consumer financial concerns.

      The economic recovery from the pandemic is not as straightforward as it seems, with some sectors showing growth but still not surpassing their pre-pandemic levels. At the same time, unemployment is low, which is typically good for the economy but could potentially signal a market downturn. The Fed's actions continue to be a significant factor in market movements. Retail sales during the holiday season were strong, but consumer financial health remains a concern with low savings rates, high credit card debt, and a growing number of Americans living paycheck to paycheck. These conflicting signs make it challenging for investors to predict the market's direction.

    • Record-high interest rates and strong employment keep consumers spending, but a downturn could lead to buy now, pay later optionsRetailers like Ulta Beauty buck the trend with impressive sales growth, while Salesforce reports strong earnings but faces leadership changes

      Despite record-high interest rates, strong employment keeps consumers afloat. However, if employment weakens, a downward spiral could ensue, leading consumers to turn to buy now, pay later options. This trend puts both consumers and retailers at risk. One retailer bucking the trend is Ulta Beauty, which reported impressive Q3 results, including a 17% increase in net sales and a 5% increase in comp sales. Ulta's success can be attributed to its ability to build on last year's growth, double-digit transaction growth, and inventory management. Conversely, Salesforce reported strong Q3 revenue and earnings, but the news of co-CEO Brett Taylor's departure overshadowed the positive results. Marc Benioff, Salesforce's CEO, seemed disappointed by the departure, potentially viewing Taylor as a future CEO.

    • VICI Properties acquires MGM Grand and Mandalay Bay, becoming the largest gaming and entertainment REITVICI Properties, a real estate investment trust, made a major acquisition, assuming Blackstone's debt on MGM Grand and Mandalay Bay, making them the world's largest gaming and entertainment REIT. Okta, an identity management software company, broke even in Q3 and saw a 30% stock price increase due to improved business performance and profitability.

      VICI Properties, a real estate investment trust, made a significant acquisition by purchasing Blackstone's stake in the MGM Grand and Mandalay Bay properties on the Las Vegas Strip. This deal makes VICI the largest gaming and entertainment REIT in the world, as they already own prominent properties such as Caesars Palace, Luxor, and The Venetian. The advantage for VICI is that they are assuming the Blackstone debt on these deals, which has a low interest rate of 3.5-6% through 2032. This is beneficial as interest rates are likely to be higher if they had to acquire these properties at this time. Additionally, Okta, an identity management software company, broke even in Q3, despite initial concerns of slowing growth. The market's perception of Okta seems to be changing as the business performance aligns with profitability goals, and the stock price has increased by 30% this week. VICI's focus on cost controls and strong performance in Sales Cloud, Service Cloud, and marketing and commerce sectors, along with the growth potential in Vegas, make these companies noteworthy investments.

    • Strong Q3 results for 5 Below and CrowdStrike lead to contrasting stock reactionsInvestor perception and market expectations play a significant role in stock price movements, as shown by the contrasting reactions to 5 Below's revenue and earnings beat and CrowdStrike's subscription growth miss

      Both 5 Below and CrowdStrike reported stronger-than-expected financial results for their third quarters, leading to significant stock price movements. For 5 Below, the market responded positively to the company surpassing revenue and earnings expectations, despite a decline in comparable store sales. For CrowdStrike, the market reacted negatively due to lower-than-anticipated subscription growth, despite overall revenue growth and raised bottom-line guidance. The divergent reactions highlight the importance of investor perception and the market's forward-looking nature. While 5 Below's results were technically strong, some analysts expressed concerns about the growth coming primarily from new stores and inventory issues. Conversely, CrowdStrike's subscription growth miss was seen as a potential red flag, despite the company's overall financial strength and positive guidance. Ultimately, these reactions underscore the importance of understanding the unique drivers of each business and the market's ever-evolving perception of their value.

    • Commercial Real Estate Facing Challenges with Increased Interest RatesCommercial borrowers and businesses may face significant financial pressure due to higher interest rates and potential large-scale deleveraging process, while investors can consider a basket approach or ETF for diversified exposure.

      The commercial real estate market is facing significant challenges due to the recent increase in interest rates. Commercial real estate loans typically have shorter maturities compared to residential loans, and many borrowers will need to pay down their loans or refinance at much higher interest rates. This could lead to a large-scale deleveraging process, potentially resulting in trillions of dollars in paydowns. While individuals who own homes with long-term fixed-rate loans are less affected, commercial borrowers and businesses may face significant financial pressure. Despite these challenges, companies like Fundrise continue to expand their offerings in the commercial real estate market, focusing on acquisitions and new projects. For investors, a basket approach or an ETF might be a good option for gaining exposure to the cybersecurity industry or the commercial real estate market, respectively. The speaker also expressed a personal opinion that we might be heading for another financial crisis, which he referred to as "the great deleveraging."

    • Opportunity for real estate investors in uncertain office marketReal estate investors can profit from providing gap funding to office property owners amidst economic uncertainty, but the volatile office market presents challenges in pricing and potential foreclosures.

      The current economic climate presents a significant opportunity for real estate investors to provide "gap funding" or rescue money to property owners facing large loan payments. This gap funding can come in the form of mezzanine debt, second trusts, or preferred equity, and often yields higher returns than before. However, the office market poses unique challenges. With remote work leading to decreased office occupancy and a potential cyclical downturn, the value of office properties is uncertain. This uncertainty makes it difficult for lenders and investors to determine if office price drops are temporary or permanent, leading to potential problems in pricing and foreclosures. Office buildings are already being foreclosed on, resulting in significant losses for lenders. The combination of these factors creates a complex situation for the office real estate market.

    • Lenders' hesitancy during market instability leads to market failure in certain assetsDuring uncertain economic times, lenders may avoid financing riskier assets, causing market failure. However, opportunities for opportunistic transactions may arise in a liquidity crisis, particularly in the homebuilding industry.

      During periods of high uncertainty and market instability, lenders may become hesitant to finance certain assets, leading to market failure. This was discussed in relation to the office market, which has seen declining values due to the shift to remote work. Institutions, as a herd, will allocate their dollars to safer assets like rental residential and industrial. This trend is already visible in the market, with rent growth in the residential sector and collapsing values in the office sector. However, there may also be opportunities for opportunistic transactions during a liquidity crisis. The homebuilding industry is facing short-term challenges due to the lag time between starting construction and selling homes, but the long-term outlook is not as dire. Homebuilders' pipelines of homes coming to market were established before the current instability, and these homes can be bought at potentially good prices due to the sellers' need to pay down loans.

    • Economic Downturn Impact on Home Builders and Creative Marketing StrategiesHome builders face a decrease in new construction due to the economic downturn, but have learned from past mistakes to mitigate risks. Creative marketing strategies, like limited-edition meal kits, can effectively reach consumers and build brand loyalty.

      The current economic downturn will cause short-term pain for home builders, leading to a decrease in new home construction and a potential housing supply shortage. However, this is a more controlled situation compared to the 2008 crisis, as home builders and banks have learned from past mistakes and have taken steps to mitigate risks. Meanwhile, non-bank lenders may face challenges. On a different note, companies like HelloFresh are using creative marketing strategies to attract customers, such as limited-edition meal kits inspired by popular culture. The success of these efforts shows the importance of brand building and understanding consumer preferences. The Elf-inspired meal kit is a perfect example of good timing and effective marketing to reach a specific demographic.

    • Meal kits and Christmas movies bring people togetherCompanies like Cerence and Extra Space Storage face challenges but recover with new leadership and partnerships, while Hallmark Christmas movies continue to draw large audiences and revenue.

      Meal kits can create strong bonds between people, especially during special occasions like Christmas. The Hallmark Channel's Christmas movies, despite their cheesy and often unrealistic portrayals, continue to draw in massive viewership and generate significant revenue for the network. In the business world, companies like Cerence and Extra Space Storage have faced challenges but also shown promising signs of growth. Cerence, a provider of conversational AI technology for the automotive industry, had a rough year due to supply chain issues but is starting to recover with new leadership and encouraging partnerships. Extra Space Storage, the top-performing self-storage REIT over the last decade, has thrived with a capital-light business model and a focus on third-party management contracts and joint ventures. Despite the ups and downs, both the entertainment and business worlds offer intriguing stories of resilience and growth.

    • Motley Fool Money Radio Show discusses Extra Space Storage as potential investment opportunityThe Motley Fool Money Radio Show discussed Extra Space Storage as a potential investment opportunity due to its unique business model and positive growth prospects in the storage sector.

      Key takeaway from this discussion on Motley Fool Money Radio Show is the mention of Extra Space Storage as a potential investment opportunity. Dan and Jason shared their positive experiences with the company and suggested it as an addition to one's watchlist. Dan also mentioned a unique business model he had heard of, where storage companies offer climate-controlled units for customers to store their seasonal items. This model could be a potential differentiator for companies in the storage industry. Overall, the conversation highlighted the potential growth and value in the storage sector, making it an interesting area to keep an eye on for investors. If you have any year-end investment questions, feel free to drop us an email at podcasts@fool.com. We'll be here to help. Thanks for listening to this week's show, and we'll see you next time! The show is mixed by Dan Boyd, and I'm Chris Hill.

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