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    My thoughts on the David Dobrik situation... Dropouts Ep.45

    en-usMay 02, 2021

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    • Dispelling Rumors and Sharing UpdatesDropout podcast reassures listeners that recent rumors are false, shares their PO box address, discusses ongoing podcast project including a pet fish named Zeebee, and reflects on experiences and upcoming plans.

      The speakers on the podcast, Dropout, are addressing recent rumors about them and reassuring their listeners that none of the accusations are true. They also shared their PO box address for fans to send them packages, and discussed their ongoing podcast project, including a pet fish named Zeebee who has surprisingly survived for almost a year. They also joked about various topics and mentioned that one of the hosts, Indie, had threatened to quit several times but ultimately decided to stay. The podcast has been running for 45 weeks, and the hosts reflected on their experiences and upcoming plans, including one host's upcoming birthday and upcoming absence due to travel. Overall, the podcast is a lighthearted and entertaining conversation between friends, with occasional jokes and reflections on their personal experiences.

    • Our experiences with landmarks change as we grow upAs we mature, our perspectives on landmarks shift, revealing their historical and cultural significance.

      Even though we may have seen famous landmarks before, our experiences and perspectives can change as we grow older. The speaker shared an embarrassing story about his childhood encounter with the Statue of Liberty, where he felt underwhelmed and even made inappropriate jokes. However, as he grew up and traveled more, he came to appreciate the cultural significance and historical importance of landmarks, even if they didn't live up to his initial expectations. The speaker also reflected on how, when we're young, we may not fully appreciate these experiences due to our lack of understanding or maturity. Despite the occasional disappointment, it's important to keep an open mind and continue exploring new places and landmarks.

    • Nazi gold rumors and hidden treasuresHistorical discoveries can lead to intriguing stories, from rumored Nazi gold to the belief that gay men make great hairdressers.

      Historical discoveries can lead to intriguing stories, as shown by the rumored Nazi gold buried beneath a palace in Poland, which was once used as a Nazi brothel. The discovery of an SS officer's diary revealed the possible location of the gold, sparking excitement and anticipation for its potential discovery. On a lighter note, the speakers also shared their experience of traveling long distances for a better haircut, emphasizing their belief that gay men are better at cutting hair. The conversation ended with a story about a ghost sighting in a hotel room during a trip to Vegas, adding an element of the supernatural to their shared experiences.

    • The Fascination with Ghosts: From Spectrophilia to Cultural DepictionsOur fascination with ghosts can be both terrifying and intriguing, leading to various manifestations such as Spectrophilia and cultural depictions. The existence of ghosts raises questions about societal acceptance and the psychological aspects of fear and the unknown.

      The human fascination with the supernatural, specifically ghosts. This fascination can manifest in various ways, including a fetish known as Spectrophilia. The idea of having intimate encounters with ghosts may seem strange and terrifying to some, but others might view it as a once-in-a-lifetime experience. In popular culture, such as the show "American Horror Story," ghosts are depicted as beings that can appear and disappear at will, and even have physical interactions with the living. This raises the question, if ghosts existed in reality, how would society react? Would we accept it, or would we consider those who claim to interact with ghosts as crazy? The discussion also touched upon the psychological aspect of fear and the thrill of the unknown. Ultimately, it's a reminder that our fascination with the supernatural can be both terrifying and intriguing.

    • Disappearing from others' lives unexpectedlyThe unexpected loss of social media and personal belongings can lead to confusion, panic, and even suspicion, highlighting the importance of connections and communication in maintaining a sense of self and belonging.

      The feeling of disappearing from others' lives unexpectedly would be a terrifying experience. In the discussion, both individuals shared their hypothetical reaction to such a situation. They emphasized the importance of social media and personal belongings in maintaining a sense of existence. The unexpected disappearance of these elements would lead to confusion, panic, and even suspicion. Additionally, the discussion revealed that miscommunication and misunderstandings can lead to humorous situations, such as accidentally bringing someone to a scary movie instead of a meeting. However, the overall theme of the conversation revolved around the importance of connections and communication in maintaining a sense of self and belonging in the world.

    • Money and personal boundaries: Subjective valuesRespect individual boundaries and consider unique circumstances and values when dealing with money and personal actions.

      Money and personal boundaries can be subjective and vary greatly among individuals. In the discussion, the speakers revealed their differing attitudes towards money and the potential price they would ask for or accept for certain actions. One speaker was concerned about potential legal consequences for approaching a child, while another was discussing the financial possibilities of starting an OnlyFans account. Despite their contrasting perspectives, it became clear that there is no fixed price for everything, and what one person might consider a small sum, another might view as significant. Ultimately, it's essential to respect individual boundaries and consider the unique circumstances and values of each situation.

    • Values and Money Influence DecisionsPeople's decisions are shaped by their values and financial needs. Some prioritize financial stability, while others prioritize moral or personal convictions. Understanding and respecting individual motivations and boundaries is crucial.

      Money and personal values play a significant role in people's decisions, and what one person is willing to do for a large sum may not be the same for another. The discussion revolved around the idea that some people might be driven by financial stability, while others might have stronger moral or personal convictions. The conversation also touched upon the notion that there might be different standards for men and women when it comes to selling private content online. Ultimately, it's essential to respect each other's choices and understand that everyone has their unique motivations and boundaries.

    • Costs of being an exclusive photographer on OnlyFansPotential costs for exclusive photographers on OnlyFans can be high, reaching six figures per year, and risks include controversial incidents like filming stunts with dangerous machinery.

      The cost of being an exclusive photographer for someone on OnlyFans can be quite high, potentially reaching six figures for a year's worth of sessions. The conversation also touched upon the topic of selling virginity and a controversial incident involving David Dobrik and Jeff Wittek. The latter involved Dobrik filming stunts with an excavator, which resulted in an accident when Jeff asked to slow down but Dobrik instead sped up, causing Jeff to collide with the machine. Despite the potential risks and costs involved, individuals continue to explore these platforms and opportunities for various reasons.

    • A Misunderstanding and Its Aftermath: Jeff and David's Frenemies PrankFriendships can be tested when pranks go wrong, especially if they involve danger or injury. Consent and responsibility are crucial, but public opinion and aftermath can complicate matters.

      The situation between Jeff and David from the Frenemies podcast involves a misunderstanding and aftermath of a dangerous prank gone wrong. David, who was not a trained professional, used a machine to spin his friends around, including Jeff, who ended up getting injured. Although Jeff was initially angry, he later acknowledged that all his friends were consenting to the prank and that David visited him in the hospital and paid for his medical bills. However, the public's negative comments about Jeff's appearance during his recovery period and David's continued success led to a rift between them. Ultimately, the incident raised questions about consent, responsibility, and the consequences of dangerous actions.

    • Understanding the complexity of consentAcknowledge and respect boundaries, even if they change, and communicate openly to maintain healthy relationships.

      Consent is a crucial aspect of any situation, especially in professional relationships. However, the complexity of human emotions and actions can make it a gray area. In the discussed scenario, David and Jeff's relationship involved consensual actions that later led to negative consequences. David's actions were acceptable at the time, but the situation changed, and Jeff felt uncomfortable. The issue of power dynamics and the fear of losing opportunities or standing in the industry came into play. But, ultimately, it's essential to acknowledge that if someone is no longer comfortable with a situation, it becomes an issue that needs to be addressed. The responsibility lies with both parties to communicate openly and honestly about their feelings and boundaries. The documentary mentioned in the discussion hints at a deeper exploration of this issue, and it will be interesting to see how it unfolds in the next part.

    • Considering the influence of pressure and fear on personal choicesPeople should evaluate the consequences of their actions and make decisions based on their values and priorities, not just pressure or fear.

      People have the power to make their own choices, even when faced with pressure or fear. In the case of the Vlog Squad, while they may not have had a gun to their heads, they could have still said no to participating in questionable activities. However, the production nature of their vlogs and the influence of their friend David may have influenced their decisions. Similarly, in the context of Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather's boxing match, while it may be entertaining and bring more eyes to the sport, it also raises questions about respect and the true enjoyment of the sport versus the spectacle. Ultimately, individuals need to consider the consequences of their actions and make informed decisions based on their values and priorities.

    • Professional Sports: Money, Skills, and EnjoymentFloyd Mayweather's upcoming fight against Logan Paul sparks debate on skills, prime, and payday. Mayweather's love for tennis and past NFL aspirations showcased.

      Floyd Mayweather's upcoming fight against Logan Paul is seen as a money-driven event by some, with Mayweather being past his prime and Paul being an inexperienced YouTuber. However, others believe that Mayweather still has the skills to win and is extending the fight for the payday it promises. The discussion also touched upon the respect due to boxing legends and the appreciation of sports regardless of one's skill level. The speaker expressed their newfound love for tennis and the excitement of watching professional matches, even if they may not be able to participate at a high level themselves. The conversation also included a brief mention of the speaker's past aspirations to play in the NFL and join Australia's track and field team. Overall, the conversation revolved around the motivation and financial aspects of professional sports and the joy of watching and appreciating them.

    • Appreciating exceptional skills in othersRecognize and celebrate the exceptional talents of others, even if they exceed our own abilities.

      There are varying levels of talent and ability in every field, and it's essential to recognize and appreciate the exceptional skills of others, even if they surpass our own capabilities. The speaker shares anecdotes about realizing this in athletics and music, citing examples of individuals who stood out as exceptional even at a young age. They also express admiration for TikTok creators like Lil Huddy and Addison Rae, acknowledging their unique talents and the impact they've made in their respective industries. The speaker's reflections underscore the importance of recognizing and celebrating the achievements of others, even when they surpass our own abilities.

    • Embracing the unexpected in lifeKeep exploring and trusting the journey, even when life takes unexpected turns. It's okay to pursue different passions and careers at different stages.

      Life can take unexpected turns and people can find themselves in unfamiliar situations, just like Jared from the podcast. He found himself in the limelight after his relationship made headlines, but in reality, he was just a "sweetest little boy" who loved dogs and milk. For someone like Cody, who is about to graduate and unsure of his future career, the advice is to keep things simple and explore different interests without feeling pressured to have everything figured out right away. Life offers many opportunities, and it's okay to pursue different passions at different stages. As Jared put it, "We should be a flipping house duo," and who knows, that could be a viable career option in the future. Ultimately, it's essential to trust the journey and embrace the unexpected twists and turns that life brings.

    • Embracing Change and New OpportunitiesPersonal growth and financial success require stepping out of comfort zones, being resourceful, and embracing change. You're not obligated to be the same person as yesterday.

      Personal growth and financial success often require stepping out of comfort zones and making sacrifices. The speaker shares their own experience of living below the poverty line in an expensive city while pursuing their dreams. They emphasize the importance of being resourceful and smart with money, and challenge the common misconception that one needs a large income to live in certain places. The quote "you are under no obligation to be the same person as you were yesterday" highlights the importance of embracing change and new opportunities, even if they seem daunting or unrealistic at first. Overall, the conversation encourages listeners to stay focused on their goals, be open to new experiences, and trust that they have the ability to adapt and thrive.

    • Learning the ropes of social media at a young ageStart young, but learn and have fun without pressure. Express yourself authentically and create enjoyable content to grow in social media.

      Starting young in social media can be beneficial, but it's important to learn and have fun without putting too much pressure on views or numbers. A 15-year-old asking about getting into social media was advised to wait a bit and learn the ropes before diving in headfirst. The speaker, who started at 14, emphasized the importance of expressing oneself authentically and creating content that is enjoyable. Pressure and expectations can hinder growth, so it's crucial to take the time to learn and experiment without worrying about immediate success. The speaker also acknowledged that starting young can provide a head start, but it can also be a challenging and toxic environment. Ultimately, the key is to enjoy the process and create content that resonates with an audience.

    • Unexpected gifts and their impactUnderstanding the intentions behind unexpected gifts can help us appreciate them, even if they don't align with our expectations.

      Receiving a platform unexpectedly can be a double-edged sword. On one hand, it's an opportunity to reach a wider audience and make an impact. On the other hand, it requires figuring out how to effectively use it. The speaker shared a personal story about receiving a pizza stone as a gift instead of the video game he had hoped for, feeling disappointed and unappreciative despite his mother's good intentions. The podcast hosts also shared stories of gifts they didn't particularly like, such as spicy soap and a period starter kit. These experiences highlight the importance of understanding and appreciating the intentions behind gifts, even if they don't align with our expectations. Additionally, the speaker expressed their deep appreciation for the podcast and the hosts, showering them with compliments and praises.

    • Sharing stories of awkward growing up momentsGrowing up involves embarrassing moments, but finding humor and appreciation in these experiences can help us embrace the journey of life.

      Growing up involves awkward and embarrassing moments, even when it comes to getting one's first period or receiving unexpected gifts. For instance, one person shared how they received a period starter kit at a young age and felt embarrassed about it. Another person recalled their excitement about receiving a bottle of tequila as a gift, only to later develop an aversion to it. Additionally, the conversation touched on the topic of body development and the passing down of physical traits, such as breast size, from one generation to the next. Despite these moments of discomfort and embarrassment, the individuals in the conversation found humor and appreciation in their experiences. Overall, the conversation highlighted the universality of growing up and the importance of embracing the awkward moments that come with it.

    • Childhood exercise affects breast size and metabolism in adulthoodRegular exercise during childhood can reduce breast size and improve metabolism in adulthood, primarily due to the fat tissue composition of breasts.

      Regular swimming and other forms of exercise during childhood can help reduce breast size in adulthood by accelerating metabolism. This is because breasts are primarily composed of fat tissue. However, the effects of childhood exercise extend beyond breast size, as it can also influence long-term changes in metabolism. The discussion also touched upon the possibility of creating memes for the podcast, but unfortunately, there were none available during that particular episode. The hosts encouraged listeners to follow them on Instagram at "dropoutpod" for more content and to share their favorite memes. They concluded the podcast by reminding viewers to check their PO box for any mail and expressing their love and appreciation for their audience.

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