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    Oscars and Vegetarians and Starbucks, OH MY! Episode 26

    en-usFebruary 17, 2020

    About this Episode

    Artificial insemination. Vegetarian choices. The Oscars. STDs. Greenhouse gas emissions. Baby calves. Nursing. Starbucks. Nutrient density of food. Personal choices. 

    If those topics don’t add up to a civil conversation in your mind, listen in for a model on how to have a discussion around food and the environment that's respectful and informative with someone different than you. Yes, you can still laugh together. College student and vegetarian Grace Greene- and Eliz’s daughter – joins the Food Bullying podcast to ask questions Joaquin Phoenix’s comments about dairy cattle and Starbucks new plant-based “strategy”, while sharing her journey as a vegetarian. It’s Michele & Eliz's candid, monthly behind-the-scenes look at how food bullying hurt a variety of people.

    Key points

    • A vegetarian’s perspective on Joaquin Phoenix’s offensive Oscar remarks
    • Farmer suicide rates are double the national average and have jumped 34% in six years. How do brand and celebrity statements about farming practices contribute?
    • Farmers connection to the natural world and care for animals
    • Artificial insemination is done for a purpose, it’s a medical procedure
    • Reproductive physiology in cattle and humans
    • Why bulls can hurt cattle, people and biosecurity
    • Unhappy cows do not make milk
    • Why do dairy farmers “take babies away from their mamas”? Safety and nutrition are critical for both the cow and calf.
    • The environmental impact of food choices for both vegetarians and carnivores
    • Why Grace became a vegetarian and the connection she was seeking
    • Greenhouse gas emissions and how farmers have significantly reduced the environmental impact for one gallon of milk
    • The unintentional negative consequences of statements from companies and celebrities on farmers
    • Nutrient Density to Climate Impact (NDCI) index and the importance of considering the nutrition in food while looking at environmental impact

    The Oscars & dairy cowsFab quotes

    “Humans are the direct beneficiary of reproductive research done in cattle.”

    “It’s important to arm ourselves with reliable science to make smart choices.”

    “Electricity production accounts for 26% of greenhouse gas emissions in the U.S.”

    “If every American eliminated ALL animal protein, it would only reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2.6%.”

    “Across the entire world, 70% of the world’s land can’t be used for anything besides grazing ruminants. There is not an option to grow crops on that land.”

    “We all need to be aware of where our food is coming from and how to be environmentally conscientious.”

    “The unintended consequences of sensational statements by celebrities and brands turns people away from milk, which hurts dairy farmers. It’s deeply personal and does impact that mental health of farmers.”

    Links

    Recent Episodes from Food Bullying Podcast

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    Big bad agriculture: a transparent look at their science & safety

    Big bad agriculture:  a transparent look at their science & safety

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    Transparency, as explained by Meng, refers to the practice of making safety data and information about agriculture products available to the general public. In the past, safety data was primarily shared with regulatory authorities for approval purposes. However, with increasing public interest in understanding the safety and origins of their food, Bayer Crop Science recognized the importance of transparency. They believe that transparency allows consumers to make informed decisions and builds trust in the agricultural industry. By making safety data more accessible, Bayer Crop Science aims to address public concerns, promote understanding, and foster a more transparent and open dialogue about their products.

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    A.I. in your food (cattle, not computers): Episode 122

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    Food labels & nutrition choices driven by dollars: Episode 121

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    Building up data for dietitians: Episode 120

    Building up data for dietitians: Episode 120

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    GMOs & bacon with a side of bullying

    GMOs & bacon with a side of bullying

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    “I think GMOs and organic foods are still widely misunderstood by the consumer,” says Patsche. “I also think the fear-based labeling food companies use such as labeling foods non-GMO when there isn’t a GMO option for that particular food causes further confusion.”

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    Separating fact from fiction in food & farming: Episode 118

    Separating fact from fiction in food & farming: Episode 118

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    Talking turkey - hormones, breasts, nutrition: Episode 117

    Talking turkey - hormones, breasts, nutrition: Episode 117

    The bird’s the word, but when we’re talking turkey, what do all those labels REALLY mean?  

    Peter Klaphake, a third generation turkey farmer from Minnesota, owns and operates turkey farms, a feed mill, and crop farming businesses.  He’s also a current board member on the Minnesota Turkey Research and Promotion Council.

    “Our birds are never raised with added hormones or steroids.  In fact, it’s illegal,” explains Klaphake.  And while he goes into great detail on labeling, antibiotics, and what he wish consumers knew about raising turkey, he is deeply passionate about raising turkeys, despite all the challenges.

    “It is a very risky, demanding, and rewarding profession,” says Klaphake. “We either have to love what we do, are completely nuts, or a bit of both!”

    Listen in and learn more about how this lean, nutrient-dense protein makes its way to your table.  For more information, visit Klaphake Feed Mill.

    The great pumpkin! Episode 116

    The great pumpkin! Episode 116

    Pick a pumpkin - but what kind?  A self-proclaimed Professor of Pumpkinology, John Ackerman is the owner and operator of the farm bearing the same name that has been in his family for over a century.  And while you may hear “pumpkin” and think of the jack-o-lantern variety, he and his wife grow an astounding number of breeds.

    While Ackerman has opened his farm to the public each fall for the past 24 years, the long hours and devotion to his land are consistent throughout the off-season.  Pumpkin season may be a given, but the weather can determine great fluctuations in the farm’s income.

    A steward of his land, Ackerman shares his concerns with common misconceptions about farming practices.

    “While organic food is certainly growing in popularity, I have concerns that its production may be hard on the environment,” says Ackerman.

    Listen in for more reasons to eat a greater variety of pumpkins, how they’re grown, and just how many varieties are available.

    Learn more about Ackerman and his farm at ackermanfamilyfarmsllc.com.

    Gettin' figgy with it: Episode 115

    Gettin' figgy with it: Episode 115

    "A little sugar is not always a bad thing!”  

    Kevin Herman is a diversified farmer who grows crops you may have not heard much about, but his biggest crops are figs.  And yes, there are more than one variety. He likens fig varieties to wine varieties - each with a distinct flavor and pairing opportunity. 

    A nutritional powerhouse of fiber, calcium, and potassium, Herman views figs as a great replacement for candy bars.  In this episode, he sheds light on the different varieties and their nuances in flavor, texture, and eye appeal, and shares some of his favorite preparation methods. If you're an RDN or into nutrition, be sure to listen. 

    Herman also clears the air so to speak on the many ways in which farmers serve as environmentalists.

    “We all recognize the need for trees to help clean our air and we not only be on the loss of the rain forest but also spend billions every year to plant trees, well what about farmers, we plant millions of trees every year that not only feed the world but also clean the air!”

    To learn more about California-grown figs, visit californiafigs.com.