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    Part Three: Josef Mengele & The Nazi Doctors

    enApril 18, 2023

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    • Finnish Volunteers in the Viking SS Division and Controversial ActionsFinnish volunteers in the Viking SS division, including Norwegians and others, were involved in atrocities against Jews and civilians during World War II, despite the geopolitical context and mutual hatred of the Soviet Union.

      The Finnish volunteers in the Viking SS division, which included a significant number of Norwegians and other Europeans, were involved in controversial actions during World War II. While some argue that they were coerced into joining due to their geopolitical situation and mutual hatred of the Soviet Union, there is ample evidence of their participation in atrocities against Jews and civilians. For instance, after the death of their beloved commander, SS Stendartenfuhrer Wackerol, members of the division carried out acts of extreme violence against Jews, resulting in the deaths of several thousand. Despite the complex historical context, it's important to acknowledge the role these volunteers played in the extermination of Jews during this dark period in history.

    • Mengele's Transition from Scientist to Perpetrator in the SS Wiking DivisionJosef Mengele went from performing racial science to committing atrocities during his service in the SS Wiking division, likely influenced by the division's brutal environment.

      Josef Mengele, a German medical officer, went from performing relatively mid-level racist science to committing atrocities during his service in the SS Wiking division. This transition is believed to have occurred during the massacre of a Jewish village in Zolosiv, where Mengele likely identified Jews for execution. The SS Wiking division, known for its high number of war crimes, was responsible for thousands of Jewish murders in a short period. Mengele's involvement in these killings is unclear, but he was praised by his superiors despite the deteriorating situation for the Nazi forces. Ultimately, Mengele was evacuated from the Eastern Front and assigned to Auschwitz, where he would infamously carry out horrific medical experiments on prisoners. The brutal environment of the SS Wiking division likely played a significant role in Mengele's transformation from a scientist to a perpetrator of mass murder.

    • Mengele's time in Berlin and collaboration with his old bossMengele connected with his old boss in Berlin, leading to research on heredity. They recognized the need to study humans extensively, making Mengele a valuable asset due to his ability to provide human specimens and data, ultimately contributing to his infamous role in the Holocaust.

      During his time in Berlin between assignments, Mengele connected with his old boss, Otmar von Verschuer, who was now leading the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute For Anthropology. Mengele became a guest scholar there, aiding Verschuer in their research on heredity, which was transitioning from monofactorial genetics to more complex mechanisms. The scientists were trying to understand how genetic dispositions became physical traits, but they were struggling with the distinction between heredity and environment. They believed criminality, among other traits, had a genetic component, leading to a broad definition of criminality that encompassed many undesirable behaviors and characteristics. In order to advance their research, they recognized the need to study humans extensively, which would involve dissection and the acquisition of human specimens. Due to the high demand for human material, they saw Josef Mengele as a valuable asset, as he could provide them with the necessary human specimens and data. This collaboration ultimately laid the foundation for Mengele's infamous role in the Holocaust.

    • Mengele's Role at Auschwitz: Beyond the Chief Medical OfficerMengele, a German doctor, gained special status at Auschwitz due to his combat experience and workaholic nature, where he focused on eradicating a typhoid epidemic, improving the overall health of the camp population.

      Joseph Mengele, a German doctor, was assigned to work at Auschwitz in 1943, likely due to the influence of his mentor von Verschuer. Contrary to popular belief, doctors were not forced to work at death camps, and Mengele was not the chief medical officer at Auschwitz. Instead, he was the number 2 man in the medical system and gained a special status due to his combat experience and workaholic nature. Upon his arrival, he took on the responsibility of eradicating a typhoid epidemic that had been plaguing the camp. The overcrowded and unsanitary conditions made typhoid a serious issue for the SS as well, as they could easily contract the disease from the prisoners. Despite the difficult circumstances, Mengele worked tirelessly to contain the epidemic, ultimately making a significant impact on the health of the Auschwitz population.

    • The Role of Medical Professionals in the HolocaustMedical professionals, including Dr. Mengele, played a crucial role in the systematic extermination of undesirable races during the Holocaust, carrying out atrocities with a sense of medical precision.

      The Holocaust, specifically at the Auschwitz concentration camp, was a well-oiled machine of death and destruction that required the participation of medical professionals, including Dr. Mengele, to function. The atrocities committed during this time, such as mass liquidations and the use of crematoriums, were carried out with a sense of medical precision. It's important to remember that these doctors were not forced to be a part of this horrific system, but rather, they played a crucial role in its execution. The Wannsee Conference in January 1942 marked a turning point in the Holocaust, as the focus shifted from deportations and random acts of violence to the systematic extermination of undesirable races, which was viewed as a medical task. The role of medical professionals in the Holocaust is a stark reminder of the devastating consequences of allowing scientific knowledge and expertise to be used for evil purposes.

    • Role of SS doctors in concentration campsDoctors at concentration camps, like Mengele, sorted and selected new arrivals, often leading to their extermination, while we are entertained by commercials for games and movies.

      The role of SS doctors at concentration camps, including Dr. Mengele at Auschwitz, was to sort and select new arrivals for various purposes, often leading to their extermination. This is based on historical accounts, although the extent of Mengele's involvement and the number of people he directly sent to their death is a subject of ongoing debate. Meanwhile, in a stark contrast, we were introduced to advertisements for Monopoly Go, a mobile game, and the movie "Back to Black" about Amy Winehouse. These commercial breaks served as a reminder of the contrasting realities and pleasures in our world.

    • Memory of Holocaust eyewitnesses can have errors but overall trustworthyDespite potential errors in eyewitness accounts of the Holocaust, the overall trustworthiness of their testimonies remains high due to the consistency in describing the horrific nature of the selections process.

      The memory of eyewitnesses, even in extremely stressful and terrifying situations like the Holocaust, can have errors. However, these errors do not affect the overall trustworthiness of their accounts. For instance, doctors Joseph Mengele and Fritz Klein, who were responsible for the selections at Auschwitz, had different attitudes towards their work. While Mengele was cold and cynical, Klein, who had a personal grudge against Jews, bragged about his enjoyment of the crematoria. Despite the horrific nature of their tasks, only two doctors, Mengele and Klein, performed the selections without any stimulants. Miklos, a survivor, described the selection process with a feeling of dread, but the SS reassured them it was just for a bath and disinfection. The sight of the crematory chimney confirmed their worst fears as they were in Germany, the land of the crematory ovens.

    • Moral dilemmas of doctors and prisoners in AuschwitzDoctors and prisoners in Auschwitz faced moral dilemmas, but their responses were manipulated and exploited by figures like Mengele. Some chose to continue working, seeking small comforts, while others were coerced or left, illustrating the psychological impact of the Holocaust.

      The horrors of Auschwitz pushed some individuals to question their involvement in the atrocities, but their moral dilemmas were often manipulated and exploited by figures like Mengele. Doctors, like Horst Fischer, were faced with the ethical dilemma of continuing to work in the camp or leaving, which led to intense self-reflection and ultimately, coercion by Mengele. Prisoners, like Miklos, were also forced into the Sonderkommando, the special units responsible for the most gruesome tasks of the Holocaust. Despite the horrific nature of their work, they found solace in small comforts, such as food and alcohol, to keep functioning. Mengele, on the other hand, seemed untouched by the horrors, continuing his duties with a sober and callous demeanor. The moral complexity of the situation is highlighted by the contrasting experiences of these individuals, illustrating the psychological toll of the Holocaust on both the perpetrators and the victims.

    • Miklos, the skilled human dissectionist in Auschwitz, used his privileges to save some inmatesAmidst the horrors of Auschwitz, a skilled dissectionist named Miklos used his position to distribute medicine and food, saving some lives, and even helped the SS due to their lack of competent doctors.

      The role of Miklos, a skilled human dissectionist in Auschwitz, was a complex and challenging one. Knowing he had a limited time due to the nature of his position in the Sonderkommando, he used his relative privileges to save some of his fellow inmates by distributing medicine and food. Mengele, who was not a competent doctor, relied on Miklos for his medical expertise, and even the SS men would seek his help when they fell ill. Despite the strict ideologies of racial superiority, the SS allowed Miklos to touch their bodies due to their lack of competent doctors. This dark reality showcases the complexities and contradictions that existed within the horrific conditions of the concentration camps.

    • Amy Winehouse's mother's request for authenticity in documentary and comfort in Keebler SandiesAmy Winehouse's mother emphasizes authenticity in her daughter's documentary and encourages self-care through simple pleasures like Keebler Sandies, while the podcast also touches on the historical atrocities of Joseph Mengele at Auschwitz.

      The podcast discussion covered two distinct topics: the release of the Amy Winehouse documentary and the historical context of Joseph Mengele's actions at Auschwitz. Regarding the documentary, Amy Winehouse's mother expressed her desire to be remembered for her authentic self through the film. She urged audiences to take moments for themselves, even with the help of comfort foods like Keebler Sandies. Contrastingly, the discussion on Mengele delved into his horrific actions at Auschwitz, particularly his selection and massacre of typhoid patients and twins for medical experiments. The podcast hosts acknowledged the difficulty of discussing such heavy topics and found solace in the lighter topic of taxes, ultimately reminding listeners that even the most unpleasant tasks can be made bearable with perspective.

    • Mengele: A Calculated Part of the Nazi MachineMengele was a mid-level player in the Nazi machine, not a lone madman. He delegated the actual butchery to other doctors and was an integral part of the broader German medical establishment's scientific quackery.

      Josef Mengele, far from being an unhinged mad scientist, was a calculated and efficient part of the Nazi machine. He was not only delivering and killing twins for research purposes, but also delegating the actual butchery to other doctors. Mengele's actions were not disconnected from the broader German medical establishment, but rather an integral part of their scientific quackery. His role was not that of a lone madman, but a mid-level player in a horrifying system. Despite the popular myths of his sewing twins together or injecting dyes into their eyes, much of what he is accused of is not entirely accurate. The true horror lies in the fact that he was a cog in a much larger and more sinister machine.

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