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    Rob Interviews Simon Hazeldine, Expert Negotiator, International Speaker & Best Selling Author [Business, mindset, entrepreneur, disruptors]

    en-GBJune 18, 2017

    Podcast Summary

    • Negotiation in the Digital AgeEffective negotiation skills are crucial in today's digital age where buyers are more informed and every interaction involves negotiation.

      Negotiation has evolved significantly in today's digital age. Buyers are now more informed and savvy, often researching potential suppliers and products extensively online before engaging in negotiations. This shift has led to a higher degree of cynicism and a greater awareness of the negotiation process. Negotiation is no longer just about price and percentages at the end of a deal, but rather starts much earlier in the process. Every interaction between individuals, whether in a business or social context, involves some form of negotiation. Even seemingly trivial decisions like choosing a film or restaurant can be considered negotiation situations. Embracing this reality and recognizing the importance of effective negotiation skills throughout all stages of interactions can lead to better outcomes for individuals and businesses alike.

    • Understanding the other person's perspective in negotiationSuccessful negotiation involves focusing on the other person, offering incentives that align with their desires, considering cultural differences, and being open to concessions.

      Effective negotiation involves understanding the other person's perspective and priorities, and using that knowledge to construct a mutually beneficial deal. Bobby's experience with negotiating with his son demonstrates the importance of focusing on the other person and offering incentives that align with their desires. However, it's important to note that negotiation styles and cultural differences can impact the negotiation process. Doing research on the other party's culture and background can help build rapport and facilitate a successful negotiation. Additionally, being open to giving concessions in exchange for equal or greater value is a fundamental principle of negotiation. Using a conditional proposal format, such as "if you do this, then I will do that," can help structure a fair and effective negotiation. Ultimately, successful negotiation requires a deep understanding of the other person's perspective and a willingness to work collaboratively towards a mutually beneficial outcome.

    • Understanding motivations and power dynamics in negotiationSuccessful negotiation requires gathering info, clarifying positions, assessing power dynamics, and understanding the other party's perspective.

      Effective negotiation involves understanding the other party's motivations and having a clear assessment of power dynamics. Negotiators should spend time gathering information and clarifying the other party's position to gain insight into their wants and needs. The power balance can shift depending on the situation, and it's crucial to assess it on a deal-by-deal basis. Salespeople often underestimate their own power, while buyers may overestimate that of their suppliers. Preparation, time constraints, and the relative importance of the deal to each party are factors that influence negotiation power. Additionally, the needier party in a negotiation may have a disadvantage, much like in dating or other social situations. Ultimately, successful negotiation requires a clear understanding of the other party's perspective and a strategic assessment of power dynamics.

    • Emotional appeals and scarcity tactics in negotiationsBeing emotionally detached and non-desperate in negotiations can strengthen your position, but beware of manipulative tactics and use rational thinking to evaluate the situation.

      Showing a lack of need or desperation in negotiations can increase your power and improve outcomes. This principle applies to various situations, including dating and business deals. Neuroscience suggests that our emotional and primitive brain regions exert a strong influence on our thinking and decision-making, making emotional appeals and scarcity tactics effective in negotiations. However, it's essential to be aware that these tactics can be used to manipulate, and it's crucial to decide how badly you want the deal or desired item. While some signs of deception, like eye movements, may be indicative, they are not definitive. Instead, focus on engaging your rational thinking and analyzing the situation objectively.

    • Understanding Body Language and Power DynamicsEffective communication involves body language, micro expressions, and power dynamics. Scarcity and waiting can be power plays, but they require finesse. Mastering micro expressions requires discipline. Power dynamics can be established through controlling time and environment, but beware of negative consequences.

      Effective communication and understanding body language, micro expressions, and power dynamics are crucial in various aspects of life, including business relationships. Scarcity and keeping someone waiting can be used as power plays, but they can also backfire. Micro expressions, as studied by Professor Paul Ekman, provide valuable insights into people's emotions, but mastering this skill requires discipline and time. Power dynamics can be established through controlling the other person's time and environment. For instance, keeping someone waiting, controlling the agenda, and using downward voice inflections can all be examples of power plays. However, it's essential to be aware that these tactics can have negative consequences if overused or misused. Additionally, being aware of power dynamics and learning to read nonverbal cues can help individuals navigate these situations more effectively.

    • Negotiation styles in business relationshipsIn long-term relationships, maintain ethical negotiation methods. In one-off transactions, it's acceptable to be assertive and use power plays to secure the best deal.

      Negotiation styles vary based on the nature of the relationship and the specific transaction. When dealing with long-term business relationships, it's essential to maintain ethical and principled negotiation methods. However, in one-off transactions, it's acceptable to be more assertive and use power plays to secure the best deal possible. The speaker shared an experience where he used a hard bargaining tactic to get a significant discount on a car repair bill, despite initially being shocked by the cost. This approach was effective because he had no ongoing relationship with the car garage or the salesperson. Overall, being flexible and adapting negotiation styles to different situations is crucial for successful negotiations.

    • Manipulative tactics in sales and negotiationsWhile some tactics like scarcity, shocking language, and third-party involvement can be effective, their ethical use depends on the context and intent. Use tactics truthfully and ethically for the best outcomes.

      While good planning and ethical behavior are generally more effective in sales and negotiations, some people may use manipulative tactics consciously or unconsciously for quick wins. These tactics can include using scarcity, shocking language, or involving third parties. However, the intent behind using such tactics is crucial - for instance, saving someone's life could justify manipulative behavior. While tactics can be effective, they should be used ethically and truthfully for the best outcomes. For example, using scarcity based on truth can be more impactful. It's essential to understand that tactics themselves are not inherently good or bad but depend on the context and intent. In the realm of business competitions like The Apprentice and Dragon's Den, what viewers see on camera might only represent a small portion of the actual negotiation process, and the participants are experienced businesspeople who can handle the situation effectively.

    • Understanding the importance of preparation, numbers, and partnerships in negotiationsPrepare well, know your numbers, and consider partnerships for successful negotiations. Emotional intelligence and putting others' needs first are also crucial.

      Learning from the discussion about Dragon's Den and The Apprentice is the importance of preparation, knowing your numbers, and understanding the value of a partnership in negotiations. Knowing your numbers is crucial in both situations as it shows confidence and allows you to make informed decisions. Preparation and planning prevent poor performance and can lead to better outcomes. Additionally, considering the value of having a mentor or partner, even if it means giving up a larger percentage of your company, can lead to significant growth for your business. On the other hand, being self-obsessed and failing to consider the other person's perspective can lead to poor negotiation strategies and unproductive outcomes. Negotiations are not just about power plays but also about understanding emotions and checking your ego at the door. Good negotiators understand the importance of controlling emotions and responding calmly to provocation. Ultimately, successful negotiations require a clear understanding of the numbers, the value of partnerships, and the ability to put the other person's needs ahead of your own ego.

    • Allowing the other party to feel like they've wonPreparation and letting the other party feel like they've won can lead to successful negotiations, even when the deal isn't exactly what you wanted.

      Allowing the other party to feel like they've won during negotiations can lead to a successful outcome, even if the deal isn't exactly what you wanted. This concept, known as letting them win, can help maintain a positive relationship and ensure their satisfaction, which is crucial for large corporate negotiations where individuals need to justify their actions to their superiors. However, the effectiveness of this approach depends on the negotiation context, including the other party's motivation and their level of investment in the deal. Preparation and planning are essential for a successful negotiation, as they give you an edge over less prepared opponents. By investing time and effort into understanding negotiation behavior and practicing effective tactics, you can significantly improve your negotiation outcomes. The story of an IT professional who prepared for a change request negotiation and successfully secured the fees they were entitled to illustrates the power of planning and preparation in negotiations.

    • Effective Negotiation: Gather Information and Create ValueAsk questions, understand perspectives, create value propositions, and focus on value creation in negotiation. Gather twice as much information as shared.

      Effective negotiation requires careful planning and information gathering. The speaker shared an example of a change request that cost £47,000, equating to around £23,000 per hour. He emphasized the importance of asking questions and gathering information to understand the other party's perspective, rather than making assumptions. He also mentioned the importance of creating a value proposition when negotiating salary, focusing on what one has brought to the company rather than expressing a need. The speaker warned against giving too much information and encouraged a 2 to 1 ratio of information gathering to sharing. Overall, successful negotiation requires a thoughtful approach, active listening, and a focus on creating value.

    • Honesty is crucial in negotiationBe truthful in business and personal negotiations to build trust and foster successful outcomes.

      Honesty is key in negotiation. While there may be gray areas, outright lying is not advisable. The speaker shares an experience of open book costing in business negotiations, where the other party asked for sensitive information under the guise of collaboration, but the speaker believed they were not being truthful about their intentions. The speaker emphasizes the importance of not lying to clients and encourours honesty in personal financial matters during salary negotiations. The speaker also shares their personal journey into negotiation, starting from answering phones in an office to door-to-door sales and eventually finding success in the field.

    • The Importance of Effective Selling and Negotiation SkillsEffective selling and negotiation skills can make a significant impact on career and business success. Continuous learning and development are essential.

      Effective selling and negotiation skills are crucial for success in business, whether you're working for a large corporation or running your own organization. The speaker shared his personal journey from sales to negotiation training and eventually becoming a successful professional speaker. He emphasized the importance of not just being good at what you do, but also being able to sell and market yourself effectively. He gave the example of a friend who was an excellent goalkeeping coach but was undercharging, missing out on potential revenue. The speaker's advice is that the difference between running a good business and a successful one can be significant, and it applies to any industry or profession. He also highlighted the importance of continuous learning and development, as he wrote his books while still employed and eventually started his own business during a recession. Overall, the key takeaway is that having strong selling and negotiation skills can make a significant impact on your career and business success.

    • The importance of selling and marketing before negotiationEffective selling and marketing create potential customers, establish value, and set the stage for successful negotiation. A good negotiator only engages in deals that make sense and invests time wisely to avoid poor decision-making.

      Selling and marketing are crucial components of a successful business, and they should be prioritized before negotiation. Selling creates potential customers, turning them into paying customers by conveying the value of what you offer. Negotiation then agrees the terms of the business transaction. A good negotiator only engages in deals that make commercial and financial sense. Additionally, the more time and energy invested in a deal, the harder it is to walk away, which can lead to poor decision-making. The speaker, a sales expert, has written several books on the topic, including "Bare Knuckle Selling," "Bare Knuckle Negotiating," and "The Inner Winner," which explores the psychology of performance. His latest book, "Neurocell," discusses how neuroscience can enhance sales success by understanding the functions of the human brain.

    • Five stages of effective negotiationThorough planning and preparation, a clear strategy, and a mentor's guidance are crucial for successful negotiations. The five stages - planning and preparation, discussion, proposal, bargaining, and close - must be navigated with confidence and skill to achieve the best possible outcome.

      Effective negotiation requires thorough planning and preparation. In the story shared, the speaker was faced with a threatening situation where their company was at risk of being delisted. They managed to escape and seek advice from their boss, who coached them through the negotiation process. The five stages of negotiation were explained: planning and preparation, discussion, proposal, bargaining, and close. The speaker was completely unprepared and lacked confidence, but their boss took control and guided them through each stage. By neutralizing the power play and outsmarting the opposing side, they were able to successfully negotiate and avoid delisting. This experience taught the speaker the importance of being well-prepared and having a clear strategy in negotiations. It also highlighted the value of having a mentor or experienced negotiator to provide guidance and support. This story illustrates how negotiation skills have evolved from a more arrogant and hubris-driven approach to a more collaborative and strategic one.

    • Challenging the status quo and offering unique solutionsUnderstand your ideal customer and focus on their needs, offer a distinct value proposition, and provide tailored solutions to build strong relationships and differentiate from competitors.

      Being disruptive in business means challenging the status quo and offering unique solutions tailored to individual customers. This approach can help differentiate a business from competitors and build strong relationships with clients. The speaker emphasizes the importance of knowing your ideal customer and focusing on their needs rather than trying to be everything to everyone. Additionally, understanding and embracing who you are as a business and brand is crucial for success. Trying to be a carbon copy of competitors or those who are better at being themselves is a waste of resources. Instead, aim to offer a distinct value proposition and provide tailored solutions that meet the unique needs of your clients.

    • Discovering your unique voice and authenticity is key to successFind your unique style and approach, access Rob Moore's free report for productivity tools and inspirational resources, and don't miss out on opportunities.

      While it's important to learn from and be influenced by others, ultimately, finding your unique voice and authenticity is key to success as a speaker or in any other field. Simon Hazeldine emphasized this during the conversation, highlighting the importance of discovering one's own style and approach. He also shared his various platforms where people can connect with him, including his speaker website, book website, Twitter handle, and podcast called "The Sales Chat Show." Rob Moore, the interviewer, also shared a valuable gift for his audience. He compiled a free report containing the top 21 apps he uses to create a mobile lifestyle, his favorite educational, inspirational, and informative documentaries, a copy of his specific goals document, and the fastest ways for startups and scale-ups to make money. This report, along with a weekly newsletter, can be accessed by visiting tiny.ccforward/robsreport. Remember, as Rob emphasized, if you don't miss out on opportunities, you risk missing out on everything.

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    Why The UK Needs Fixing: Nigel Farage Best Interview Moments

    As the campaigns and manifestos for the upcoming UK election are ramping up, Rob shares some of the best bits from his interviews with the Reform Party leader Nigel Farage.

    Nigel Reveals:

    • His thoughts on Donald Trump
    • The problems with inclusion and inclusivity
    • Why his bank account was frozen
    • The truth about CBDCs – Central Bank Digital Currencies
    • Why the banks have so much control
    • The commitment he wants to government to make to its citizens
    • The failure of the NHS
    • Why immigration levels are breaking the UK

    BEST MOMENTS

    “1st amendment is your right to free speech”

    “From 2030 the United Kingdom with introduce central bank digital currency”

    “The banks are stopping you putting money in crypto”

    “The cashless society advanced hugely during the lockdown”

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    ABOUT THE HOST

    Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur”

    “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything”

     

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    en-GBJune 14, 2024

    Red Carded by the BBC: Mark Lawrenson Talks About Shocking Exit and Life Before and After Football

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    Rob is joined by ex-footballer and commentator Mark Lawrenson in this episode. Mark talks about what it was like to work for and then be axed by the BBC, the reasons he believes so many of his fellow presenters were axed and also reveals a shocking story around the Maxwells and Robert Maxwell’s murder. Rob and Mark also discuss why they feel the UK has gone soft, the impact big money and financing has made to football and more incredible stories from his career as a footballer and presenter. 

    Mark Lawrenson Reveals:

    • Why the BBC Sacked him
    • The differences between male and female football
    • Why TV and the country has gone ‘too soft’
    • What it was like to play for Liverpool
    • Why being told he couldn’t play football drove him to his ultimate success
    • The negative impact of big money and finance on football
    • A shocking story surrounding Maxwell's alleged murder by Mossad

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    “Really good [football] commentary makes a huge difference”

    “The country is knackered”

    "Bob Paisley comes down from upstairs, takes him a couple of minutes and everything. Walks in. Complete hush, respect... Where's Alan Kennedy? And one of the lads had gone, 'Oh, he's over here.' So, Bob strolled over and looked at him, and he said, 'Do you know what, Alan? They shot the wrong fucking Kennedy.'" 

    "I'd get slaughtered sometimes, fair enough, doesn't particularly bother me. And then I'd meet somebody and then they say to me, 'Oh you're completely different from what you, when you're commentating,' and I go, 'No I'm not. I'm just the same.'" 

    "One of the problems with the BBC was that they don't really understand things like you've been a footballer and sometimes you get left out. And you get taken off the pitch. And it's as though they can't tell you the bad news." 

    "My biggest disruption was my mum leaving us... We never knew. My mum always said to us, 'You, I'll never tell you what happened, but you would have done the same thing.'"

    "Robert Maxwell owns Derby, Kevin Maxwell owns Oxford... He looked at me and he said, 'What's your problem?' I imagine that, and it just all came out, and I called him every name under the sun. And he looked at me, and he went, 'I quite like you actually.'”

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    ABOUT THE HOST

    Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur”

    “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything”

     

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    en-GBJune 10, 2024

    Rob’s Supercars: Proving the Haters Wrong!

    Rob’s Supercars: Proving the Haters Wrong!

    For the first time ever, Rob is revealing his entire supercar collection. From the fastest to his ultimate favourite, he talks through each car, revealing what he loves and proving to the haters and trolls what he really owns and drives!

    Rob Reveals:

    • The fastest car he owns
    • How many supercars he owns
    • How much he paid for his supercars
    • Why he loves the pursuit of owning supercars

    BEST MOMENTS

    “This kind of car is going to be good for our filming when we go and visit our guests”

    “It’s impossible for me to get all my cars in one place”

    “This car either makes people orgasm, scream with excitement or panic and nearly have a heart attack”

    “It’s not owning the nice things that’s the pleasure, it’s getting and attaining them”

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    ABOUT THE HOST

    Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur”

    “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything”

     

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    en-GBJune 07, 2024

    The Mad Max Prophecy: Dan Pena's Dire Warning for Humanity

    The Mad Max Prophecy: Dan Pena's Dire Warning for Humanity

    Rob interviews the unapologetically controversial Dan Pena. Brace yourself for a wild ride as Pena, an ex-war veteran and successful entrepreneur, unleashes his unfiltered opinions on the world's dire state. From the decline of masculinity to the impending economic tsunami, Pena fearlessly tackles taboo topics with his signature approach. Prepare to be shocked, informed, and inspired by this unforgettable conversation!

    Dan Pena Reveals:

    • The world is devolving, not evolving
    • Why humanity's best days are behind us,
    • What is contributing to the downfall of society
    • The real risks of AI
    • Why confrontation is necessary for success
    • Money is the key to happiness
    • The tactics of the rich in this economic crisis
    • Why governments and media are liars

    BEST MOMENTS

    "The world is soft. It just is. I predicted in 1980, when the wall came down, 1989-90, I said we're gonna go back to Mad Max. Mel Gibson movie, that's where we're headed. Apocalypse."

    "I went out of my way to be around super smart people. I went out of my way to listen to them."

    "The truth always hurts. You mean it hurts yourself, hurts other people? Other people."

    "Money's not the only thing in life, but it's the only one of the only things they keep track of."

    "The secret to your success will be, going from this day forward, how you differentiate K N O W with N O. Knowing when to say no, or if to say no."

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    ABOUT THE HOST

    Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur”

    “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything”

     

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    en-GBJune 03, 2024

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