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    Sebastian Mejia - Mastering On-Demand Convenience - [Founder’s Field Guide, EP. 44]

    enJuly 29, 2021

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    • Creating a Fast, Engaging Product in Underpenetrated MarketsFocus on fast delivery and high engagement in underpenetrated ecommerce markets for long-term user relationships. Understand customer behavior and be hyper-local to succeed in delivery-based businesses.

      Key takeaway from this episode of Founders Field Guide is the importance of creating a product that offers fast delivery and high engagement in underpenetrated ecommerce markets, like Latin America. Rappi, a Colombian on-demand convenience store founded by Sebastian Mejia, has expanded into 9 countries and over 200 cities, focusing on Latin America's fastest-growing but still underpenetrated ecommerce market. Rappi's product allows for delivery of various categories, including restaurants and consumer product goods, in 10 to 30 minutes, and its flexible courier network enables delivery of various products in each city. This model leads to high engagement, mind share with customers, and a superior business model with long-term relationships with users. Additionally, being hyper-local and understanding customer behavior are crucial for any delivery-based business. The value of brands in an increasingly app-based world and the importance of fungibility in rewards programs were also discussed.

    • Rappi's success in Latin America: Broad assortment and fast delivery timesRappi thrived in Latin America by offering a broad assortment and fast delivery times, evolving from a convenience store on demand to a multi-vertical product, and tailoring solutions to the specific challenges of the emerging market.

      Rappi, a delivery app popular in Latin America, thrives in densely populated urban areas due to its ability to offer a broad assortment and fast delivery times. This is significantly different from the US market, where cities are less densely populated and larger delivery companies dominate. Rappi's success came from listening to customers and iterating quickly, starting as a convenience store on demand and evolving into a multi-vertical product. The early days involved balancing marketplace dynamics, figuring out unit economics, and building a network of couriers. Unlike other companies, Rappi's solutions were tailored to the specific challenges of the emerging market. The free text feature allowed customers to order anything they wanted, and the company figured out how much to pay couriers based on demand and distance. The team had experience building companies but wanted to focus on the customer, leading to a shift from enterprise software sales to consumer-focused delivery services.

    • Starting from scratch in emerging marketsTo succeed in emerging markets, companies must build core competencies by tackling challenges head-on and making previously non-legible data legible to a system

      Building a successful business in an emerging market often requires starting from scratch and developing core competencies. The founders of Rapid, for instance, faced challenges integrating with large supermarkets and restaurants due to the lack of existing technology and logistics stacks. Instead of giving up, they went out and talked to customers, offering donuts for downloads, and even made deliveries themselves to understand the market better. They also had to build solutions from first principles to make inventory and menus legible to their software, whether it was through tablets or POS integrations for restaurants or dealing with inventory levels in supermarkets. By tackling these challenges head-on, Rapid was able to create valuable business capabilities that could be used to offer additional services in the future. This experience is not unique to Rapid; other companies, like Loft, have also had to build their own databases of apartments or homes due to the lack of existing systems. The ability to make previously non-legible data legible to a system is a valuable skill, and companies that master it often thrive.

    • Local e-commerce companies face unique challenges in integrating with points of sale and navigating income disparities within their hyperlocal zonesLocal e-commerce companies like Rappi and Meituan must deliver fast, affordably, and build a local presence to thrive in hyperlocal markets, prioritizing good unit economics and network growth.

      Local e-commerce companies, like Rappi and Meituan, face unique challenges in integrating with various points of sale and navigating income disparities within their hyperlocal zones. These companies must deliver fast and affordably while building a local presence that is hard for foreign entities to replicate. The economic model for these companies often prioritizes both good unit economics and network growth. Rappi, for instance, operates in over 200,000 points of sale and integrates with stores within specific zones to provide an amazing customer and courier experience. Meituan, another successful local e-commerce company, offers delivery services along with marketing, advertising, travel, and hotel bookings, focusing on the specific needs of each neighborhood. Both companies have proven that a large business can be built by delivering faster and better quality in local markets. Despite the complexity of these challenges, local e-commerce companies that can master them can thrive and create a deep connection with their local economies.

    • Maintaining healthy unit economics in dense marketsIn Latin America, focusing on a solid business model with optimized unit economics and a healthy AOV to delivery cost ratio is crucial for scaling a delivery business and building profitable companies in the long-term.

      Having a solid business model with healthy unit economics is crucial for winning the network and scaling a delivery business, especially in dense markets like Latin America. The unit economics should be optimized from the early days and constantly monitored to ensure long-term growth and profitability. A healthy AOV to delivery cost ratio is essential for having profitable unit economics and is unique to markets like Latin America. While scale effects are desirable, they are not easy to achieve, and maintaining healthy unit economics while growing quickly is a discipline that requires attention to every line of the unit economics. Additionally, the long-term horizon for these businesses is building really big, profitable companies, as there are clear scale effects in this industry. Ultimately, it's about doing both - growing fast and maintaining healthy unit economics.

    • Managing Scale Effects in EcommerceRecognizing and managing scale effects, making strategic decisions about business expansion, and leveraging partnerships are crucial aspects of growing a successful ecommerce business.

      As an entrepreneur, recognizing and managing scale effects is a crucial aspect of growing a business, particularly in ecommerce. Scale effects refer to the financial benefits of handling a large volume of orders, which can help finance earlier investments. The feeling of achieving scale is often marked by the realization that the total contribution margin from orders covers the costs of previous investments. Moreover, as a business grows, decisions about inventory management, distribution centers, and partnerships become essential. Maintaining a focus on local markets and treating each city as an independent market is crucial for hyperlocal businesses. Verticalizing the business by offering physical infrastructure, such as dark kitchens and micro-fulfillment centers, can help businesses expand in a low-capital-expenditure way. This approach provides advantages for both the core business model and the user experience, resulting in faster delivery times, improved economics, and a shift in customer behavior. In summary, recognizing and managing scale effects, making strategic decisions about business expansion, and leveraging partnerships to expand in a cost-effective manner are all crucial aspects of growing a successful ecommerce business.

    • The shift towards vertical integration and its impact on user behaviorFaster delivery times and e-commerce convenience may lead to more frequent purchases in smaller quantities, less inventory, and more efficient supply chains. Brands that adapt to these changes will be at an advantage, but may face decreased brand loyalty and disintermediation.

      As businesses focus on building networks and scaling marketplaces with technology, there's a natural evolution towards vertical integration, or becoming more "asset heavy." This shift can lead to significant changes in user behavior, particularly in the way people consume goods and services. For example, with faster delivery times, consumers may buy goods more frequently and in smaller quantities, leading to less inventory and more efficient supply chains. Brands that can adapt to these new ways of consuming and selling goods will be at an advantage. Additionally, the increasing penetration of e-commerce and the convenience it offers may lead to decreased brand loyalty and more disintermediation, with consumers relying on platforms rather than traditional retailers for their needs. Overall, the impact of these platforms on user behavior and the business landscape is still being explored, but it's clear that the future will bring significant changes.

    • Standing out in Latin America's digital marketplaceTo succeed in Latin America's ecommerce market, focus on building a strong brand story, navigating performance marketing, and solving real problems for customers.

      While there may be opportunities for unbranded, brand-agnostic businesses in the rapidly growing ecommerce landscape of Latin America, particularly in sectors with low penetration rates, having a strong brand story and mission will be crucial for standing out in the increasingly digital and customer-focused marketplace. Brands that can navigate performance marketing, growth, and the unique challenges of the region will have an advantage. Latin America's large population, significant GDP, and high mobile and internet penetration make it an attractive market for investors, and its entrepreneurial culture and resourceful population make it an ideal place for building transformative technology companies. Entrepreneurs in the region should focus on building strong businesses by solving real problems and asking why.

    • Latin America's Tech Landscape: A Focus on Entrepreneurship, Innovation, and Investor EngagementLatin America's tech industry is thriving due to entrepreneurship, innovation, and investor engagement. Companies like Rappi, with customer-centric offerings like Rappi WOW, are driving growth in the e-commerce sector by understanding unique market nuances and creating value-added services.

      Technological entrepreneurship and innovation are key drivers for economic development and long-term progress in Latin America. Rappi, a leading on-demand delivery platform in the region, is a prime example of this. The company has seen a shift in investor thinking towards a deeper understanding of the unique market nuances in Latin America, leading to a more knowledgeable and engaged community of investors. Rappi's success story began with a focus on connecting deeper with power users through a membership program similar to Amazon Prime. This program, now named Rappi WOW, was designed to provide additional value to the platform's most engaged users, leading to increased customer loyalty and higher average order values. The program's success underscores the importance of understanding customer behavior and creating value-added offerings to drive growth in the e-commerce industry. Overall, the combination of technological entrepreneurship, investor engagement, and customer-centric innovation is paving the way for a bright future in Latin America's tech landscape.

    • Amazon Prime's Multi-Vertical ConvenienceAmazon Prime's success lies in its bundled benefits across various product categories, making it a go-to option for users and increasing engagement and retention in marketplaces. Blockchain technology could revolutionize loyalty programs by making rewards more seamlessly integrated and fungible, leading to increased user engagement and retention.

      Amazon Prime's value lies in its frequency and multi-verticality. Prime becomes the go-to option for users when they need to purchase various categories of products due to the convenience and benefits that come with the membership. The key to Prime's success lies in its ability to bundle multiple products into one membership, making it a more attractive option compared to single-category membership programs. However, communicating the perceived value of Prime to users and continuously adding value to the program are crucial for its long-term success. The intersection of Prime and blockchain technology could potentially revolutionize loyalty programs by making rewards more fungible and seamlessly integrated into the user experience. Unlike traditional rewards programs, crypto-based systems could eliminate the cumbersome process of redeeming rewards, making them more appealing to users. The simplest version of such a system would involve earning crypto rewards for every dollar spent, which could then be used to make purchases directly within the platform, eliminating the need for additional steps or platforms. This could lead to increased user engagement and retention in marketplaces.

    • Crypto's Attraction in Latin America: Faster Spending and Currency ConversionCrypto technology and tokens are gaining popularity in Latin America due to their faster spending benefits and potential for conversion to traditional currencies, making them more attractive than traditional loyalty programs. Companies like Rappi are exploring crypto's intersection with commerce to enhance user engagement and increase revenue.

      Crypto technology and tokens are offering faster spending benefits and the potential for conversion to traditional currencies, making them more attractive than traditional loyalty programs. The vibe around crypto in Latin America is one of innovation and necessity due to historical currency instability. Companies in the consumer space are exploring crypto's intersection with commerce, and Rappi, in particular, is leveraging financial services to enhance user engagement and increase revenue. Despite rapid growth, the complexities of the business and the need for top talent remain challenges for the future.

    • Scaling a business in complex industries: Entrepreneurship, systems, and operational excellenceMaintain an entrepreneurial culture, invest in world-class systems, prioritize resources to long-term value drivers, and allocate talent and resources wisely for operational excellence

      Scaling a business in a complex industry requires a culture of entrepreneurship, attention to detail, a clear strategy, and world-class execution. The entrepreneurial culture should be complemented by team members who have experience with larger scales and understand necessary systems. Systems that help make better decisions based on data are crucial for weekly reforecasting. Clarity on what the business needs to do, especially in a multi-vertical product, is also essential. The idea is to allocate resources to the "flywheel" that drives long-term value. Maintaining talent, having the right systems, and investing in the flywheel with clarity and precision are the keys to operational excellence. The most critical thing for the business is maintaining this operational excellence. The speaker's mother's support during hardships was the kindest thing anyone had ever done for him.

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    My guest today is Dev Ittycheria. Dev is the CEO of MongoDB, the developer data platform with tens of thousands of customers in 100 different countries. He joined the company as CEO in 2014, taking it public in 2017, and is now approaching a decade of leading MongoDB to become a go-to choice for the most sophisticated organizations around the world. We discuss Dev’s philosophy for constructing an exceptional enterprise sales organization, why he feels a leader must be incredibly judgemental to drive excellence, and how he plans to guide MongoDB through another technological transition. Please enjoy this conversation with Dev Ittycheria. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:39) A CEO's Perspective Of The AI Revolution (00:05:50) The Evolution of Apps From Trivial to Transformative (00:08:12) MongoDB's Journey From Startup to AI Era (00:10:03) Building a Modern Database Company: MongoDB's Story (00:13:19) The Long-Term Vision for MongoDB  (00:15:51) Dev’s Formative Experiences as a Tech CEO (00:19:18) The Art of Enterprise Sales (00:25:28) The Development of Dev as a Leader (00:29:01) Getting the Most Out of Your Talent (00:33:17) Managing a Multi-Product, Multi-Channel Enterprise (00:37:29) Dev’s Recruiting Philosophy (00:43:12) The Role of Leadership and Mentorship in Career Growth (00:46:08) Dev’s Deepest Worry With MongoDB (00:49:35) Personal Investment Philosophy and Identifying Potential (00:53:52) The Art of Leadership: Accountability and Development (00:57:50) Learning from Legends: Andy Grove's Management Insights (01:02:54) The Power in MongoDB’s Business (01:06:13) Up Next for Dev and MongoDB (01:08:34) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done For Dev

    Nico Wittenborn - Finding the Adjacent Possible - [Invest Like the Best, EP.372]

    Nico Wittenborn - Finding the Adjacent Possible - [Invest Like the Best, EP.372]
    My guest today is Nico Wittenborn. Nico is the founder of Adjacent, a venture firm that looks for what he describes as the “adjacent possible” for their next investment. Nico has zoned in on the consumer subscription market as his ideal candidate, making early investments in Calm App, Photoroom, and Oura Ring. Nico does virtually all steps of the investing process on his own as he believes this allows him to be as close to finding the truth as possible. We discuss sharpening your intuition, evaluating the subscription business model, and exploring the adjacent possible. Please enjoy this conversation with Nico Wittenborn.  Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:30) Intuition in Investment Decisions (00:05:08) The Philosophy of Adjacency in Venture Capital (00:12:51) Exploring Consumer Subscription Models (00:18:16) Common Mistakes In Subscription Pricing (00:22:41) Errors in Product Roll-Out Strategy (00:28:50) The Sucess of BirdBuddy (00:33:45) What It Means To Be a Great Product (00:38:21) Solo Investing vs. Being Part of a Big Firm (00:43:12) Building On Your Own Experience As a Founder (00:44:49) The Rise of Individual Investors and Their Impact (00:50:52) The Strategic Advantage of Staying Small in Venture Capital (00:52:02) Deep Dive into Founder Questions and Consumer Subscription Insights (00:54:09) Leveraging AI and Technological Advances for Growth (00:59:13) Exploring Future Investments and Market Opportunities (01:05:13) Areas to Explore On The Value Curve For Consumer Subscription  (01:12:32) Advice For Those Interest In Nico’s Path  (01:20:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Nico

    Mitch Rales: The Art of Compounding - [Art of Investing, Forever Episode]

    Mitch Rales: The Art of Compounding - [Art of Investing, Forever Episode]
    We are excited to share a great conversation with Mitch Rales, the co-founder of Danaher and one of the living legends in the world of business and investing. Consider that Danaher has annualized at over 21% for four decades, resulting in an 1800-times multiple on invested capital! This is Mitch's first long-form interview of any kind, and he covers his entire history and business philosophy. Interviewing Mitch are Paul Buser and Rick Buhrman, who host the Art of Investing podcast on the Colossus network. Please enjoy this comprehensive discussion with Mitch Rales. Listen to more Art of Investing. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Passthrough. If you've ever filled out a subscription document to invest in a fund or worked with LPs to fill out their docs to invest in your fund, you know what a nightmare this exercise can be. Passthrough finally solves this problem. They configure custom workflows for your electronic subscription agreements and KYC & AML requirements to shrink the time for your investors to complete their sub docs. It's the best way to manage a critical part of your relationship with your LPs and is simply a drastically better experience for both investing firms and LPs alike. To learn more, go to passthrough.com. This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Art of Investing is a property of Pine Grove Studios in collaboration with Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Art of Investing, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) - Welcome to The Art of Investing (00:05:32) - The Philosophy Behind Glenstone's Creation (00:12:57) - Benchmarking and Continuous Improvement: Lessons from Danaher and Glenstone (00:21:22) - The Influence of Mitch’s Father and Upbringing (00:28:43) - Transforming Danaher During The George Sherman (00:30:39) - Embracing Long-Term Vision and Patience (00:36:47) - The Role of Leadership in Navigating Change (00:42:21) - Danaher's Evolutionary Journey: From 1.0 to 4.0 (00:56:37) - Building a Culture of Internal Growth and External Innovation (00:58:42) - The Art of Successful Acquisitions and Integration Strategies (01:03:03) - Seeking Leadership Qualities and Business Traits for Long-Term Success (01:06:14) - The Journey from Personal Experience to Philanthropy (01:13:10) - Investment Philosophy: Concentration vs. Diversification (01:29:46) - Operational Expertise as a Catalyst for Company Growth (01:34:17) - Identifying and Supporting Talent in Business (01:43:02) - The Impact of Secular Trends on Long-Term Investments (01:49:53) - Revitalizing the Washington Commanders (01:57:36) - Engaging with Fans and Building a Winning Culture (02:05:16) - The Importance of Long-Term Vision

    Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]

    Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]
    My guest this week is Marc Lasry. Marc is a pioneer of distressed debt investing and the CEO of Avenue Capital Group, which he co-founded with his sister in 1995. Avenue manages $13 billion today. More recently, Marc and Avenue have become active investors in sport. He owned the Milwaukee Bucks when they won the NBA championship in 2021, and has since made investments in sports as diverse as sailing and bull-riding. In our discussion, we talk about his journey building a big investing firm, the evolution of distressed investing, and the opportunities in sport today. Marc shares some great stories throughout about travelling with President Clinton, winning the NBA championship, and raising his first fund. Please enjoy this great conversation with Marc Lasry. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like The Best (00:03:40) Marc Lasry's Early Confidence and Competence (00:06:03) Distressed Credit Evolution and the Allure of Sports Investing (00:08:15) The Milwaukee Bucks: A Championship and Investment Success Story (00:14:54) Exploring New Frontiers: Bull Riding and Women's NCA (00:18:33) Venturing into Sailing with Larry Ellison's League (00:22:27) The Economics of Sports Team Ownership (00:25:19) The Vast Universe of Sports-Related Investment Opportunities (00:29:36) The Evolution of Distressed Investing (00:34:05 The Common Thread Through Marc’s Business Endeavors (00:40:24) Marc’s Most Memorable Investment (Not Including The Bucks) (00:43:40) The Dynamics of Working with Family in Business (00:45:32) Finding Happiness and Perspective Amid Financial Success (00:51:03) Diving into the World of NBA Owners (00:55:19) Exploring New Ventures: Sports, Real Estate, and Beyond (00:59:03) The Art of Deal-Making and Navigating Risks (01:06:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Marc

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