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    Shelby Steele | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 105

    enNovember 01, 2020

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    • The Impact of Government Dependence on Racial DividesShelby Steele argues that government programs like welfare and affirmative action have widened racial divides by perpetuating a culture of victimhood and dependency, rather than promoting self-sufficiency and individual responsibility.

      Key takeaway from this conversation with Shelby Steele is that while the pursuit of individual freedom and liberty was the driving force behind the civil rights movement of the 1960s, government dependence through programs like welfare and affirmative action have only widened racial divides. Steele, an influential scholar on race relations, argues that these programs have perpetuated a culture of victimhood and dependency, rather than promoting self-sufficiency and individual responsibility. He also discusses his experiences with controversy surrounding his documentary "What Killed Michael Brown," and his views on the Black Lives Matter movement and accusations of racism towards President Trump and his supporters. Throughout the conversation, Steele shares his personal journey from being a racial radical to an advocate for individual freedom and self-reliance.

    • From segregation to modern society: recognizing and accepting transformationIt's important to acknowledge and accept the transformation from the era of segregation to the present day America to fully participate in the modern world.

      While having a strong commitment to one's identity is important, it's equally crucial to adapt to the modern world and take advantage of opportunities available in a free and open society. The transformation from the era of segregation to the present day America is undeniable, yet some persist in viewing it as unchanged. This discrepancy can be observed in the works of prominent authors who leapfrog over the significant progress made between the 1960s and today. The confession and acknowledgement of past wrongs, such as racism, by America in the 1960s was a transformative moment in history, allowing individuals to pursue their aspirations as humans, not just members of a race. However, it's essential to recognize and accept this transformation to move forward and fully participate in the modern world.

    • The double-edged sword of victimization in the African American communityThe focus on victimization in the African American community has transformed society but also hindered progress, it's time to shift towards self-empowerment and progress instead of dwelling on past grievances, and this narrative is not sustainable for the long-term well-being of the community.

      The perception and use of victimization as a source of power in the African American community, which emerged during the Civil Rights Movement when America acknowledged its past racist actions, has become a double-edged sword. This victimization identity has transformed American society, including education and politics, but it has also hindered progress and kept the African American community from advancing economically and socially. The speaker argues that this focus on victimization is preventing black Americans from moving forward and that it is time to shift the narrative towards self-empowerment and progress, rather than dwelling on past grievances. The speaker also suggests that many in the white community have gone along with this narrative due to a sense of guilt or a desire to make amends for past wrongs, but it is important to recognize that this focus on victimization is not sustainable or productive for the long-term well-being of the African American community.

    • White-Black power dynamics in racismHistorical victims hold power to declare racism, creating a complex dynamic between whites trying to prove innocence and blacks using moral authority to pressure

      The complex dynamic between white and black Americans in the context of racism involves a symbiotic relationship where each group exploits the other for different reasons. White Americans feel a need to prove their innocence of racism and regain moral authority, while black Americans hold the power of moral authority as historical victims and use it to put pressure on whites. This results in a situation where whites are caught in a catch-22, unable to escape the charges of racism no matter what they do or say. The power to declare someone a racist lies with those who have been historically victimized, creating an intricate and often uncomfortable dynamic in American society. Despite the challenges, it's essential for both groups to engage in open and honest dialogue to move towards healing and understanding.

    • Shifting Perception of Individualism as a White Culture IssueThe ongoing debate around race contradicts civil rights movement ideals by labeling individualism as a white culture trait, undermining personal responsibility and individual efforts, and promoting financial support as a means to buy innocence.

      The ongoing debate around race and individualism has evolved significantly, with some contemporary perspectives labeling individualism as a hallmark of white culture. This shift in perception contradicts the ideals of the civil rights movement, which emphasized treating individuals as individuals regardless of their race. The speaker, Shelby Steele, argues that this trend is problematic, as it undermines the importance of individual efforts and personal responsibility. He believes that regaining moral confidence and embracing individualism are crucial steps towards resolving the race issue. The speaker also criticizes the practice of using financial support as a means to buy innocence, referencing Amazon's cancellation of his film and their financial contributions to left-wing black groups. This situation highlights the complexity of the current discourse on race and the importance of fostering open dialogue and understanding.

    • White innocence and victimization hindering progress for marginalized communitiesWhite supremacy perpetuates dependency and victimhood for minorities, hindering progress towards true equality and independence. Shift focus towards promoting self-sufficiency, development, and individual growth.

      The ongoing focus on white innocence and victimization in American society, as perpetuated by certain institutions and individuals, hinders progress towards true equality and independence for marginalized communities. The discussion highlights how this dynamic, rooted in white supremacy, keeps minorities trapped in a cycle of dependency and victimhood, rather than empowering them to overcome historical disparities and embrace freedom. The social welfare system, intended to help bridge the gap, has paradoxically inhibited progress for some minority groups. It's crucial to shift the narrative towards promoting self-sufficiency, development, and individual growth for all Americans.

    • The Great Society hindered African American progressThe reliance on social welfare programs during the Great Society era hindered African American progress by robbing them of agency and self-determination, instead, focus on individual growth, education, and self-sufficiency is more beneficial.

      The reliance on social welfare programs during the Great Society era, as spearheaded by Lyndon Johnson, inadvertently robbed African Americans of their agency and self-determination, hindering their progress towards economic and social advancement. This symbiotic relationship between races, fueled by the desire for innocence and redemption from whites and the acceptance of dependency from African Americans, has been detrimental to the Black community's development. Instead, focusing on individual growth, education, and self-sufficiency would have been more beneficial. Today, we can witness the success stories of many Black Americans who have taken charge of their lives, breaking free from the shackles of dependency and proving that the government cannot provide the key to personal success. It's crucial for the Black community to strive for self-reliance and citizenship, rather than being defined by their race or past struggles.

    • Faithlessness in the Black American CommunityCenturies of oppression and lack of faith in own people can be overcome by raising children with strong values, academic skills, and belief in abilities. Avoid distractions like wealth and social programs, protect data, and maintain control over narratives.

      Faithlessness is a major issue in the black American community, preventing many from believing in their ability to succeed and compete in American society. This stems from centuries of oppression and dehumanization, leading to a lack of faith in one's own people. To overcome this, it's crucial to raise children with strong values, academic skills, and a belief in their own abilities. Additionally, living in a wealthy society can be a distraction, tempting people to rely on social programs instead of self-development. The censorship of voices on social media is another concern, and instead of relying on these platforms for validation, individuals should protect their data and maintain control over their own narratives.

    • Protecting Online Privacy with ExpressVPNOnline privacy is important, social media tracks and sells data, ExpressVPN hides IP addresses and encrypts data to protect privacy, historical struggles of black Americans deserve recognition, positive change is necessary.

      Online privacy is valuable and worth protecting. The use of social media comes with the cost of having your data tracked and sold to advertisers. ExpressVPN is a solution to anonymize your online presence and encrypt your data, making it harder for advertisers to trace and sell your information. The documentary discussed the power dynamics surrounding the Michael Brown shooting and how these events can be exploited for power, particularly for the black community. The film also highlighted the importance of recognizing and honoring the selfless struggles of black Americans throughout history and the need to move towards positive change.

    • Focusing on victimhood hinders progressThe speaker criticizes the Black Lives Matter movement for perpetuating a victim mentality, and encourages a focus on personal growth and freedom for all.

      The conversation around race and social justice can become problematic when it leads to a focus on victimhood and a rejection of personal responsibility. The speaker expresses disappointment in the Black Lives Matter movement, believing it keeps people mired in a victim mentality rather than encouraging progress and freedom. They argue that the decline of racism in society should be celebrated, but instead, some people are using the past as an excuse to avoid facing current challenges. The speaker believes this approach is sad and counterproductive, as it prevents individuals from acknowledging their own agency and the progress that has been made. Instead, they encourage a focus on personal growth and the pursuit of freedom and opportunity for all.

    • Affirmative Action and Race RelationsDespite decades of affirmative action, black students still struggle with high dropout rates and low grades. The future of racial preferences is uncertain, but personal development remains crucial.

      The discussion touched upon the disappointing reality of young people relying too heavily on affirmative action instead of focusing on personal development. The speaker expressed concern over the high dropout rates and low grade point averages among black students despite decades of affirmative action. He also noted the potential for a shift in attitudes towards racial preferences in the future. The conversation then moved towards the Obama administration, where it was acknowledged that the election of the first black president was a significant milestone for the US. However, it was also noted that race relations seemed to deteriorate during Obama's tenure, with Barack Obama being perceived as a "white fantasy" due to his race and eloquence. Michelle Obama, who is widely seen as a potential future Democratic Party figure, was also mentioned. Overall, the conversation highlighted the complexities and nuances surrounding race, affirmative action, and political representation.

    • Obama as a symbol of white America's redemptionWhite America saw Obama's election as a way to prove their innocence, not a step towards racial equality. Trump's pragmatic approach makes him a target for racism accusations.

      According to Shelby Steele, former President Barack Obama was seen more as a symbol of white America's redemption from racism than a leader with a clear vision for the country. His election was seen as a way for white America to prove their innocence, rather than a genuine step towards racial equality. Trump, on the other hand, is seen as a pragmatic president who doesn't offer white innocence, making him a target for accusations of racism. Steele suggests that neither white guilt nor black victimization will lead to significant changes in behavior first, and that eventually, black leaders who represent the political point of view of the whole nation will emerge.

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