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    StarTalk All-Stars at Star Trek Mission NY – The Science of Star Trek

    en-usNovember 08, 2016

    Podcast Summary

    • Reflecting on Star Trek's 50th Anniversary and the Technologies Depicted in the Original SeriesStar Trek's 50th anniversary highlights the advancement of technology and imagination, with the original series depicting futuristic technologies that once seemed impossible.

      The 50th anniversary of Star Trek serves as a reminder of how far technology and imagination have come since the show's inception. Neil deGrasse Tyson, the host of StarTalk, shares his memories of the original series and the futuristic technologies depicted in it, which seemed impossible at the time. During this special StarTalk All Stars live episode, held at the Star Trek Mission New York event, Charles Liu, an astrophysics professor, welcomed guests Chuck Nice, Summer Ash, and Andrew Fizikis. Chuck, a StarTalk regular and Star Trek fan, introduced the science guests. Summer Ash, an astrophysicist, journalist, and StarTalk All Stars host, has a deep understanding of the intersection of science and fiction. Andrew Fizikis, a Canadian author, TV broadcaster, and syndicated radio columnist, wrote "Star Trek: The Official Guide to Our Universe." Their discussion revolved around the scientific accuracy of Star Trek and the impact of the show on popular culture and scientific curiosity.

    • Exploring Star Trek and AstronomyStar Trek's Official Guide bridges the gap between Star Trek and astronomy, inspiring excitement about the night sky through accurate depictions of real-world phenomena in Star Trek episodes.

      The "Star Trek's Official Guide to Our Universe" by a Star Trek and astronomy enthusiast, is a passionate fusion of two interests, showcasing Star Trek episodes and real-world astronomy. The book focuses on astronomical science, particularly scenes from Star Trek that accurately depict real-world phenomena. The author's goal is to inspire excitement about the night sky, just as he has done for decades. The Star Trek universe, including planets like Vulcan, Cardassia Prime, Romulus, and various quadrants, are all part of our Milky Way galaxy. The size of our galaxy, which is at least 100,000 light years across, makes it impossible for us to travel beyond it with current technology. Despite its vastness, our perspective is limited as we are located within one of its arms. This book offers a unique and captivating way to explore both Star Trek and astronomy.

    • Searching for signs of life in the universeThough we've identified potentially habitable planets in the 'Goldilocks zone', directly observing their atmospheres to confirm life remains challenging. Exciting discoveries like Proxima b are speculative until confirmed.

      Despite our advancements in mapping the galaxy and discovering potentially habitable planets, we are still in the early stages of understanding if these planets harbor life. Currently, scientists use the concept of the "Goldilocks zone" to determine if a planet is in the habitable range based on its distance from its parent star and potential for liquid water. However, even if a planet is in this zone, it doesn't guarantee the presence of life. To determine if a planet has an atmosphere, scientists use methods like observing the wobble of a star caused by a planet's gravitational pull or the transit method, where the star dims slightly when a planet passes in front of it. However, these methods require specific alignments and sensitive instruments. The discovery of Proxima b, a potentially rocky planet in the habitable zone of Proxima Centauri, has generated excitement but remains speculative as we have not directly observed or confirmed its atmosphere. So, while we continue to explore the vastness of space and search for signs of life, we are still like "Nemo" trying to find "Dory" in a vast ocean.

    • Analyzing a planet's atmosphere through a star's lightExamining a star's light changes when a planet passes in front, revealing clues about the planet's atmosphere and potentially signs of life

      When a planet passes in front of a star from our perspective, we can analyze the change in the star's light to learn about the planet's atmosphere, potentially detecting signs of life. Space and time form a fabric of the universe, and anything with mass warps this fabric, leading to the concept of warp drive in science fiction. In reality, warp drive is still a theoretical concept, but understanding the fundamental principles of space and time can lead to groundbreaking discoveries. The nearest star to us, Proxima Centauri, took us a long time to discover a planet around due to its faintness and proximity, much like finding something right in front of us that we've been overlooking. The potential detection of specific gases, like methane or chlorophyll, could indicate the presence of life on exoplanets. The universe's fabric warps around any object with mass, leading to the idea of warp drive, although it remains a theoretical concept. Overall, the exploration of space and the understanding of its fundamental principles continue to inspire scientific discoveries and advancements.

    • Objects with less mass orbit around more massive ones due to gravity's warping of space-timeGravity causes less massive objects to orbit around more massive ones by warping space-time, and radio astronomy uses radio waves to explore celestial objects and phenomena

      Objects with less mass are attracted to and fall into orbit around more massive objects due to the warping of space caused by gravity. While it's theoretically possible to warp space-time to travel faster than the speed of light using a concept called the Alcubierre drive, the mass required to do so is currently beyond our capabilities. Radio astronomy is a field of study that explores celestial objects and phenomena using radio waves. Stars emit radio waves, and radio telescopes can detect and study these emissions. It's important to note that radio waves are a form of light, and radio astronomy is not about picking up sound signals but rather observing the universe in radio frequencies. Radio telescopes can reveal fascinating phenomena, such as supermassive black holes, which look very different from their host galaxies.

    • Exploring Space: Reality vs Science FictionSpace exploration reveals intriguing phenomena, but creating stable environments with artificial gravity or using gravitational waves for travel remains speculative.

      While we can observe fascinating phenomena in space through pictures and radio waves, the idea of experiencing music or artificial gravity as depicted in science fiction movies is not yet scientifically possible. Artificial gravity is currently understood through the physics of spinning objects, but creating a stable environment without spinning is not feasible. Gravitational waves, which result from the merging of massive objects, are a real phenomenon, but they don't provide a means for space travel. The concept of surfing on gravitational waves or using differential equation boots, as seen in science fiction, remains purely speculative. However, the exploration of space and the advancement of our understanding of physics continue to inspire imaginative storytelling in movies and beyond.

    • LIGO detects gravitational wave from black hole collisionScientists discovered a gravitational wave caused by two colliding black holes, confirming a major prediction of Einstein's theory and opening a new window into the universe. Advanced technology and sensitive instruments made this detection possible, even for objects billions of miles away.

      The Laser Interferometer Gravitational Observatory (LIGO) detected a gravitational wave caused by the collision of two black holes, which was measured as a tiny length change on one of LIGO's 4-kilometer-long arms. This discovery, made possible by advanced technology and sensitive instruments, allowed scientists to determine the size and location of the black holes, even though they are billions of miles away. This finding not only confirmed a major prediction of Einstein's theory of general relativity but also opened a new window into the study of the universe. Additionally, the discussion touched upon the importance of family-friendly representation in science fiction, such as Star Trek, and its potential influence on society, including the increasing presence of children in workplaces. The nearest known black hole to Earth is located in the Sagittarius constellation, approximately 6000 light years away, and can be observed from a dark location in the southern sky late at night. These discoveries, made possible by scientific advancements and the exploration of space, demonstrate the importance of continued research and investment in scientific pursuits.

    • Theoretical concepts in physics: Wormholes and quantum filamentsWormholes could be a bridge connecting two black holes for faster travel, while quantum filaments may be remnants of the big bang, potentially offering faster methods. Despite advancements, much is still unknown about both and their differences.

      Wormholes and quantum filaments are theoretical concepts in physics, with wormholes being a bridge connecting two black holes to travel large distances quickly, and quantum filaments being possible remnants of the big bang that may or may not exist. While it's easier for us to bend space-time, these phenomena could potentially offer faster travel methods. However, there is still much to learn about both, and the difference between a quantum filament and a cosmic string is unclear. The future of transporter technology remains uncertain, but some experts believe it could become a reality.

    • Limitations of current technology prevent instant interstellar travelThe uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics and limitations of current technology hinder instant interstellar travel, but advancements continue to push boundaries.

      While we have made significant advancements in technology, such as the Voyager probe, there are still limitations that prevent us from instantaneously transporting objects or ourselves across vast distances in space. The uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics, as mentioned in the discussion, poses a challenge to this idea. Additionally, the Voyager probe, which is currently the farthest human-made object in space, relies on radio signals to communicate with Earth, and its batteries are expected to run out soon. Despite these challenges, advancements in technology continue to push the boundaries of what is possible, making the idea of interstellar travel an intriguing and exciting prospect for the future.

    • Exploring the Realm of Lasers in SpaceLasers have practical uses in space for communication and propulsion, but they don't cause large-scale damage like in sci-fi phasers. Scientific research focuses on laser communication for extraterrestrial contact and laser-based weaponry. Sci-fi shows like Star Trek and Star Wars contain inaccuracies, adding to their storytelling appeal.

      While lasers have impressive applications from communication to propulsion in space, they may not be the technology behind sci-fi phasers causing large-scale damage. Instead, scientific exploration continues in the areas of powerful laser communication for extraterrestrial contact and laser-based weaponry. Additionally, there are several inaccuracies in popular sci-fi shows, such as Star Trek and Star Wars, that may not hold up to scientific scrutiny but add to their storytelling appeal. For instance, the removal of baryons from a spaceship in Star Trek: The Next Generation and the poorly drawn star maps in Star Trek: The Original Series' Nomad episode. These inaccuracies, while entertaining, serve as reminders of the fascinating blend of science and fiction in our favorite stories.

    • The Mystery of the Wow Signal and the Search for Extraterrestrial LifeThe Wow signal, a 1977 radio emission, remains unexplained, fueling debate about extraterrestrial life. NASA takes steps to prevent contamination of other planets, and potential first contact would require significant effort for communication.

      The potential discovery of extraterrestrial life and our interaction with space continue to be topics of great interest and debate. The Wow signal, a mysterious radio emission detected in 1977, remains a mystery with recent theories suggesting terrestrial origins. The possibility of finding alien life, as depicted in science fiction and scientific theories, raises questions about how we would handle first contact and the potential environmental implications of space exploration. NASA has taken steps to prevent contamination of other planets, and there is an Office of Planetary Protection. If first contact were to occur in our lifetime, it would likely involve advanced intelligence and require significant effort on our part to establish communication. While the prospect of alien life remains elusive, we continue to explore and consider the implications of such a discovery.

    • The search for extraterrestrial intelligence and Star Trek's depiction of time and communication in spaceThe vast distances in space make two-way communication with extraterrestrial civilizations challenging due to significant delay times. Star Trek's concept of stardates and depiction of time delays in space communications are based on real scientific theories.

      The search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) raises intriguing questions about the possibility of communicating with civilizations far away from Earth. However, the vast distances involved make two-way conversations challenging due to significant delay times. A director of mission at SETI is responsible for message composition, but the phenomenon of receiving transmissions from the future, as depicted in a Voyager episode, is based on real scientific theories, such as radio signals being reflected off certain environmental conditions and experiencing time delays. Stardates, a concept from Star Trek, represent the year, day, and date in a system based on the revolution around the sun. Despite some confusion, it provides a consistent way to denote time in the Star Trek universe. Overall, the exploration of these scientific concepts and Star Trek's portrayal of them adds to the intrigue and fascination surrounding the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

    • Space travel and weather: No definitive connectionDespite observational bias and localized effects, no solid evidence suggests rockets impact weather significantly.

      While there may be correlations between space travel and weather patterns, there is currently no scientific evidence to suggest that rockets or shuttles have a significant impact on the weather. Professor's perspective is that this could be due to observational bias, as people are more likely to notice unusual weather during times of space launches. Additionally, there are scientists who study the effects of rocket exhaust on the atmosphere, but these effects are localized and short-lived, and there's no evidence that they could cause large-scale weather changes. The idea of subspace communication in science fiction, which allows for instantaneous communication across vast distances, is an interesting topic, but it's not clear how it could work in the context of real physics. The concept of subspace as a separate space-time is intriguing, but the thresholds between different space-times, if they exist, could have various properties, and it's not clear if there would be any physics involved with them. Overall, while there are many fascinating questions related to space travel and physics, not all of them have definitive answers yet.

    • Exploring the wonders of Star Trek's universe through various modes of travelStar Trek's unique modes of travel, like warp speed and transporters, create captivating stories and enable exploration of the vast universe.

      The various modes of travel in Star Trek, such as warp speed and the transporter system, serve as essential tools that enable captivating stories and enable exploration of the vast wonders of the universe. Whether it's the trippy experience of traveling faster than the speed of light or the opportunity to visit distant galaxies and nebulae up close, these means of transportation add to the excitement and wonder of Star Trek. As fans, we can all relate to the joy of experiencing these fantastical journeys and the opportunity to explore the cosmos.

    • Exploring Exomoons and Advanced Medical Technology in SpaceWe're searching for life beyond planets and surfaces, investigating exomoons and binary stars for energy. Europa and Enceladus are top targets for life signs. The 'galactic barrier' isn't an impenetrable limit, just challenges to overcome. Star Trek Discovery could explore advanced medical tech, like wearable devices and non-invasive testing.

      Our search for extraterrestrial life extends beyond planets and their surfaces, as we explore the possibility of life on their moons and the potential use of gravitational energy from binary stars. The discovery of exomoons is a new and exciting endeavor in astronomy, and the most likely places for finding signs of life in our solar system are Europa and Enceladus. Regarding the "galactic barrier," while there are physical phenomena like supermassive black holes at the center of galaxies, there is no impenetrable barrier preventing us from exploring beyond. As for Star Trek Discovery, I'd like to see the exploration of advanced medical technology, building upon the foundation laid by Dr. McCoy and his tricorder. With the current advancements in wearable medical devices and non-invasive testing, it would be fascinating to see how Star Trek Discovery incorporates these concepts into its storyline.

    • Exploring the Science Behind Star Trek's Advanced TechStar Trek's depiction of 3D printing and manipulating gravitons for artificial gravity and warp drive sparks scientific fascination and optimism for future advancements.

      The discussion revolved around the potential application of advanced scientific concepts, such as 3D printing and gravitons, in science fiction, specifically in the context of Star Trek. The speakers expressed their fascination with the idea of replicators and 3D printing in space, which could potentially lead to the creation of tools and even food on demand. They also explored the possibility of manipulating gravitons for artificial gravity and warp drive, as suggested in Star Trek. While these concepts are currently theoretical, the speakers were optimistic about the potential for scientific advancements to make them a reality. The discussion also touched upon the history of particle physics and the ongoing search for the elusive graviton. Overall, the conversation showcased the interplay between scientific curiosity and imaginative storytelling.

    • The energy potential of gravitational waves and habitable planetsGravitational waves from colliding supermassive black holes could potentially power warp drive and there are likely billions of potentially habitable planets in the universe, as evidenced by the discovery of water and other essential elements.

      The gravitational waves caused by the collision of two supermassive black holes release an enormous amount of energy, enough to potentially power warp drive if we can harness it. This discovery, which is still a topic of ongoing research, highlights the incredible energy capabilities of the universe. Another intriguing topic discussed was the diversity of planets in Star Trek and the real world. While it's unlikely that every planet has an atmosphere suitable for human life, there are likely billions of potentially habitable planets in our galaxy alone. The discovery of water and other essential elements in various forms throughout the universe further supports this idea. Regarding the practical application of astronomy, it was suggested that future radio telescopes could be sensitive enough to detect planets based on their radio emissions, providing an alternative method to the currently used transit, Doppler star effects, and direct imaging techniques. In summary, the discussion touched upon the mind-boggling energy released by gravitational waves, the vast potential for habitable planets, and the possibilities of future radio telescope technology.

    • Detecting Exoplanets with Radio Waves and InfraredScientists use star emissions differences to find exoplanets, future tech could detect planets with their own light, bringing us closer to discovering habitable worlds.

      Scientists are using radio waves and infrared to detect planets outside our solar system, known as exoplanets. They look for slight differences in the star's emissions to identify planets. Future advancements in technology could potentially allow for the direct detection of planets using their own light. This is an exciting development in the field of astronomy and brings us one step closer to discovering habitable worlds beyond our own. Thank you to our esteemed guests, Chuck Nice, Andrew Fizakis, and Summer Ash, for sharing their knowledge and passion for the universe. It's been a pleasure moderating this Star Trek missions panel and bringing science down to earth. Don't forget to check out the book "Star Trek, The Official Guide to the Universe" and tune in to StarTalk All Stars for more fascinating discussions. I'm Charles Liu, and this is StarTalk. Enjoy the universe!

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